[Published on 07/06/23 by Digital Imaging Lab (1142)] It is the responsibility of the researcher to obtain any copyright clearances. Permission to publish material from this/these transcript(s) must be obtained from the Supervisor of Reference Services and/or the L. Tom Perry Special Collection Coordinating Committee. [Notes added by transcribers are in square brackets. Dashes in square brackets indicate unclear words or letters. indicate words the author inserted to a previously written line.] MSS 57 Box 2 - Walter Mason Camp Papers Number of Pages: 777 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p001.jpg) I think these were not of White Bird's party. I think they were the ones who escaped in day time, while White Bird left in the night following. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p003.jpg) Wind River, Wyo. 1/4, 1914. Mr W. M. Camp. 7740 Union Ave. Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir I have just arrived home from a 6 weeks trip to Oregon, and Found youre letter of November 19, 1913. In answer I would Say that the Carrall was from ½ to ¾ of a mile below where the Creek Flowes out through the Bench on to the Valley. the Banks of the Creek were low not more than two or three ft above the level of the water. the water was from two to three. ft deepe and verry sluggish. the water flowed out over the Valley just below the Carrall and Farmed the Meadow Where we were Cutting Hay at the time, the Creek did not Flow in to the River but Spread out over the Valley and Sank. it probably flowed over in to the River in verry high water. the Carral Was on the North Side of the Creek and not over 50 ft from the Bank. I remember that you could Stoafe ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p004.jpg) down and dip water out of the creek with a Bucket or cup readily. the Carral was located about Five to Seven Hundred yards. From the Top of the Bench. I remember Stepping it with Calvin, to assertain the Distance, in order to adjust our Rifle Sights. and also remember that we considred it long Range for the armes in use at that date. We kept a Picket Guarde on the Bench during the day time, and the Indians were continualy Driving him in, and would Parade around on the Bench, and we would Fire at them but with verry little Success until we stepped the distance when we found that we had under estimated it, we had better luck afterwards, when I say that the Carral was on the North Side of the Creek, I mean that it was on the Side next to the River, the distance by the Baseman Road from Ft. C. F. Smith to Ft Phil Kerney was 90 miles, and From Ft Phil Kerney to Ft. Reano was 65 miles and From Ft Reano to Ft Fetterman was 75 miles ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p005.jpg) these are the Distances as I remember them the Corral was not more than Four or Five Feete above the bed of the Creek and as I remember not more than Fifty Ft from the Bank of the Creek: we had a Wagon Sheate Stretched over our Tat[-]ele, and there was just rooms enough betwene the table and the bank of the Creek for a narrow Bench and for the Cook to pass betwene the Bench and the bank of the Creek, then there was just Roome enough betwene the Cook S[-]ead and the Corral for a wagon with a Hog Rock on to pass betwene, I think it a good Idea for you to get Calvins Discription of the Battle, as he to command of the out Fit. after the Lieutenant was Killed, we who lived through it all owe our lives to him, there is no telling how many Indians he Killd. he was a dead Shot and had a repeating Riple and a thousand Rounds of Ammunition, and there was not a Shot Fired at once Fifty yards. after the Battle the ground around where Sit was btterly Covred with em[-]y Cartridge Shells, I think ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p006.jpg) that it would be best for you to write to Calvin as he is an old man, and it would be a calamity if you Failed to get his version of the Battle. I have thought that I would write a Description of the Battle as I remember it but am in doubt as to wheather it would he of any benefit to you or not. if at any time. I. can do any thing to help you please let me know, and I will be pleased to help you in any way that. I. can. youres Respectfully F. G. Burnett ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p007.jpg) Jan. 12, 1914. Gen. Marion P. Mans, c o Mrs. Chas. H. Poor, 1614 21st Street, N. W., Washington, D. C. Dear Sir:-- I am writing some history of Indian campaigns of the 7th Cavalry, including contemporaneous events of other Indian-fighting regi- ments, and in this connection have made an extended study of the Nez Perce war, of 1877. In my investigations I have talked with a good many officers, enlisted men, and some Indians who participated in some of the battles of that war. I am told that you were the officer in command of Gen. Miles' scouts on the campaign that ended in the surrender of the Nez Perces, on Snake creek, and if you can give me some desired information relating to that particular service you will, I am sure, render me material assistance. The Nez Perce refugees whom you found in a camp of Red River half- breeds, on Milk River, some days after Joseph's surrender: Can you tell me who these people were? Did they escape from the Snake Creek (or Bear's Paw) battle with White Bird? and, if so, how came they to leave him? seeing that White Bird went across the line, into Canada? or had to they escaped from Snake Creek independently of White Bird's flight? Can you recall about how many refugees there were in this party that you found in the place stated? and were there any fighting men in it? Do you recall two scouts with you on that trip named "Nez Perce John" and "Tippit"? Had these two scouts surrendered with Joseph? or had they come in with Gen. Howard? Can you tell me whether Lieut. Jerome is still living? and, if so, can you give me his address, or suggest who might be able to do this? Thanking you for any information that you can give me that has a bearing on these matters, I am Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p008.jpg) "Smoky" Biographical Notes Given to W. M. Camp, Sept. 30, 1913. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p009.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Jan. 11, 1914. Gen. Hugh L. Scott, Fort Bliss, Tex. Dear General:-- At the risk of finding you a pretty busy man, I am venturing to write you a rather long letter concerning matters that have nothing to do with watching the Mexicans. Your letter of Sept. 22 was received while I was away from home. On that day I was on Tongue river, on the trail of Gen. Miles' winter campaign of 1877. Since returning from that trip I have been out of the city so often attending railroad conventions and on other editorial engagements that I have had to lay aside my leisure work of history until to-day. Your letter is full of interest to me, and leads me into further study. You must tell me what "leading the pelican" means, for I do not know. Your quotations from the Chinook language or jargon sound familiar to me, for I lived in the Puget Sound country several years, during the early 90's, and heard it daily. Never dreaming, at that time, that I would ever have use for it, I neglected an opportunity to "kumtux Chinook wawa". I got hold of mighty little of it that I now can recall, but I kumtux [illegible deletion]awa" and a few other of the most ordinary terms. You refer to your acquaintance with Tom La Forge. I know him well. He is an intelligent type of man and a very good interpreter of the dif- fficult Crow language. I spent a day with him last September, at the Crow Fair, where I made a brief halt in my "military" campaign. He is getting old, and wants a pension, and he needs it. He says he had his shoulder badly injured while in the government scouting service, but that record of his enlistment cannot be found at the War Dept. Several years ago you expressed to me an interest in the colored man "Smoky", who lives with the Crows. You then requested me to find out something about him should I ever meet him again. I made a note of this and while at Crow Agency last fall looked him up. I send you, on sepa- rate sheet, the information which he gave me of himself. When I told him it was for Gen. Scott he seemed delighted, and said that he remem- bered you very well and favorably, as you had often talked with him. I have known "Smoky" for 11 years, but never knew his real name until I had the recent interview with him. He has not been well, of late. When I saw him he had a cough, and was not the husky-looking fellow of former years. You are right in your opinion that your pursuit of the Nez Perce scouts from Mammoth Hot Springs was the cause of turning the whole band from its intended route down the Yellowstone to the route they did take across the country to Clark's Fork and down that stream. Without any prompting or leading questions the Nez Perces told me this, but they say that before such change of plan they had not intended going to Canada; before then they had intended going only as far as the buffalo country.: ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p010.jpg) [The entire block of text, and list of names on the bottom left are crossed out in pencil.] "Smoky" Biographical Notes Given to W. M. Camp, Sept. 30, 1913. My name is Charles Wilson. I was born in St. Louis County, Mo., in 1857. When I was about 10 years old I met, in St. Louis, a man named Cyrus Mounts, who was interpreter with the Crows, at the Stillwater agency. He was married to a half-breed Gros Ventre (Hidatsa) woman. He somehow took a fancy to me, and, as I was an orphan, asked me to go with him to the Crow country, kindly offering me a good home as long as I would care to, remain. This is how I came to go among the Crows. We went up the Missouri on a boat named "E. O. Stannard". When It got as far as the mouth of Milk river and sunk there, so we had to go ashore. Mounts employed a freight team to haul his stuff to Helena. We stopped a week or so at Helena and then went on to Gallatin valley, and from there to the Stillwater agency. Before I had reached maturity Mounts died, and his wife and fam- ily went home to her own people. I was then left alone among the Crows, and have made my own way. I was adopted as one of the tribe and have my allotment, the same as an Indian. Being now past 56, years of age, I have lived among these Indians 46 years. I am married to a daughter of Goes Ahead, and have one son, John Wilson, aged 7 years, and a daughter, Manuel Leader, aged 5 years. I am in government employ, as field interpreter and policeman. The Crows nick-named me "Poia", which means "Smoky". They also call me "Mastashida-Shpita", which means "Black White Man". The first agent with the Crows whom I recall was Maj. Pease, who is still living. Although I do not know their initials or names in full, the succeeding agents, in order, to the best of my recollection, were as follows:-- Clapp, Briscoe Kelley Gen. Williams Frost Wyman Armstrong (Who moved the Crows from Becker Stillwater to Cro w Edwards Briscoe Gen. Williams Wyman Becker Edwards S. W. Reynolds W. W. Scott. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p011.jpg) They say that the said scouts (whom you chased) discovered Crows among (with) the soldiers, and when they (the scouts) returned and reported this a council was held and it was decided that if the Crows were fighting with the soldiers the Crow tribe would likely be hostile to the Nez Perces, and that, therefore, the Nez Perces had better go across the line into Canada. What do you think about this explanation? I found in the Chicago Record-Herald of Dec. 14 some brief editor- ial comment on a letter that you had written to the Secretary in regard to the recent Indian troubles in Arizona, but I have searched in vain through the newspapers to find a copy of the said letter or any quotati- tions from it. When I read that you had, single-handed, gone against the Indian "stronghold" and settled the difficulty without effusion of blood I said to a friend that such was the method I would expect Gen. Scott to employ; that when it came to handling Indians he understood his business. I would like to get the particulars of this matter. Can you refer me to any official report, or authentic account of it in the newspapers? Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p012.jpg) [The entire text and the bottom left list of people are crossed out in pencil.] "Smoky" Biographical Notes Given to W. M. Camp, Sept. 30, 1913. My name is Charles Wilson. I was born in St. Louis County, Mo., in 1857. When I was about 10 years old <(as near as I can estimate)> I met, in St. Louis, a man named Cyrus Mounts, who was interpreter with the Crows, at the Stillwater agency. He was married to a half-breed Gros Ventre (Hidatsa) woman. He somehow took a fancy to me, and, as I was an orphan, asked me to go with him to the Crow country, kindly offering me a good home as long as I would care to, remain. This is how I came to go among the Crows. We went up the Missouri on a boat named "E. O. Stannard". When It got as far as the mouth of Milk river and sunk there, so we had to go ashore. Mounts employed a freight team to haul his stuff to Helena. We stopped a week or so at Helena and then went on to Gallatin valley, and from there to the Stillwater agency. Before I had reached maturity Mounts died, and his wife and fam- ily went home to her own people. I was then left alone among the Crows, and have made my own way . I was adopted as one of the tribe and have my allotment, the same as an Indian. Being now past 56, years of age, I have lived among these Indians 46 years. I am married to a daughter of Goes Ahead, and have one son, John Wilson, aged 7 years, and a daughter, Manuel Leader, aged 5 years. I am in government employ, as field interpreter and policeman. The Crows nick-named me "Poia", which means "Smoky". They also call me "Mastashida Shpita", which means "Black White Man". The first agent with the Crows whom I recall was Maj. Pease, who is still living . Although I do not know their initials or names in full, the succeeding agents , in order, to the best of my recollection, were as follows:-- Clapp, Briscoe Kelley Gen. Williams Frost Wyman Armstrong (Who moved the Crows from Becker Stillwater to Crow Edwards Briscoe Gen. Williams Wyman Becker Edwards S. G. Reynolds W. W. Scott. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p013.jpg) 1-12 1914 W M Camp Chicago Ill Your letter of the 9th came duly to hand. In reply allow me to say I was in the fight at the hay field on the 1st day of august 1867— Lieut Steinburg was in command of the Troops but was killed in the first part of the fight—I then took Command—We fought about six hours before Genl Bradley sent us relief—We was about 1½ miles from the fort & he should have come to us in an hour at least—The battle was fast & furious & I would like to tell you about —if you could come too see me—I am now 74 years old & cant write much. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p014.jpg) You will sometime be in Omaha You then will be 70 miles from Rock Port where I live—Take The CB & 2 to Langdon & our train to our town—I was in that mountain County five & have seen much of it—The story is too long for me to try & write to you— If you get passes over the R R you would not be out only a few dollars— Lusting to see you some time I am kindly &c D A Calvin Rock Port Mo Atchinson Co ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p015.jpg) [Column 1] McLaughlin that your own good judgment & diplomacy were the principal factors that brought about this most happy conclusion— Cordially Yours Walter K Lane [Column 2] Copy The White House Washington Decr 16 1913 My dear General Scott If I had not been in bed with the grippe I would very much sooner have written you a line to express my admiration of the way in which you handled the Navajo in Beautiful Mtn. I instinctively knew that you were the right man to send and the result has justified my expectations ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p016.jpg) perfectly—Every one here speaks of what you have done in terms of the highest admiration touched with affec- tionate regard and certainly I share these feelings to the utmost. You have done a great public service With cordial congratulations Faithfully yours— (I[--]) Woodrow Wilson— The Secretary of the Interior Washington Decr 1 1913 My dear Genl Scott I want to express my personal appreciation of your success in bringing about the peaceful surrender of the [-]ight Navajo Indians—It is indeed a most happy culmination of what might have proved to be a serious matter. I understand from my special Agent Major ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p017.jpg) [Column 1] China governed half the human race but still had time to go to dinner" I am particularly glad to get your confirmation of the Nez Percé reasons for not going down the Yellowstone by way of Livingston their first plan— because no mention was made of it in reports of that time we went on about our business in these days without paying any attention to the reports and few credits were given for such work—and only Col Brainard Q. M. D. is alive now that knows about that— no doubt the Crow reason was uppermost in the mind of some [Column 2] Fort Bliss Texas Jany 18 1914 My dear M Camp: I have your letter of the 11th and you made no mistake about my being busy for I have just had a small body of 5000 Mexicans men women & children wished [-] me to take care of with small facilities for doing it & they are to arrive here from Presidio on the 20th to be fed sheltered & [-]anitated and guarded—but it is only the busy people who have any time—you will remember the British Premier who said that "he and the Emperor of ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p018.jpg) of the Indians, and Joseph with whom I rode in a wagon at times every day from the mouth of the Yellowstone to Bismark Dak. told me that after being headed off by Gen Gibbon at the Big Hole he felt sure that I would not have chased his advance of 18 men so strongly with but ten men if I had not had a large force behind me—if the Crows were found friendly they would undoubtedly have remained with them until driven away I found five Nez Perces naked & scalped on Milk River a delegation sent to cause the ass[---] to break out & help them—& I suppose they tried every tribe in that section. I was particularly glad to get that account of Smoky but must criticise the Crow "Ipitu." I used to hear it "Mastashila Spit-cotte-"= Black Yelloweyes—about the Pelican leading—on some of the Kansas expeditions before I joined the 7th Cavalry—I was told that a pelican was captured and carried on one of the private wagons of some officer (Godfrey or Edgerly will know about it) at the tail of the wagon train—you know that when an officer is put in arrest he must give up his sword & march at the tail of the column & while back there he was said to be "leading the pelican"—the young 7th Cavalry men wouldnt know what that meant—we had another ex— ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p019.jpg) [Column 1] to Nez Percé John and asked him how he would like to go up north with us & fight the Sioux—he replied "Oh by God—thats too much too much fight—eat squash now"—and his earnestness brought out a laugh which caused the expression to stick— About the Navajo matter— I dont know of any full account of it—and only sent two telegrams myself— so far as I know about it—the agent of the Navajos named Wm Shelton at Shiprock [Column 2] 2 p[-]ssion for a man who did not go out on an ex- pedition—"a coffee cooler"— said about the Agency Sioux who remained at the agency & drew their food instead of going out with hostiles— the expression was "he is Eating squash now" it arose Who in this way—when we were all up in the North side of the Missouri <[---] the mouth of the muscleshell> it was said "Sitting Bull" with 1500 lodges north of the border was coming down to attack us—While discussing this one day I turned around ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p020.jpg) N. M. got into trouble with some of his Navajo's in the middle of Septr they refused to come in and warrants were sworn out for them in the U. S. Court at Santa Fe—the US Marshall Hudspeth went up to serve the warrants the Navajos went up to a natural stronghold where there is water & food to last them all winter, in Beautiful Mountain about 40 miles from Shiprock—the Marshall very wisely saw that if he attempted to serve his warrants he would probably hang on a Navajo War—and with great good judgment did not bring it on—their Major M Laughlin Inspector Interior Dept whom you probably know as the oldest & wisest man in the Indian Dept, was sent out from Washington to bring about a settlement—he wired back that the Indians would have to be captured by troops as they would not listen to any one—so 4 troops 12th Cav'y were ordered to Gallup N. M. at that time I was inspecting troops on the Arizona border and a telegram reached me at Fort Huachuca to go to Gallup take charge of these troops & settle the Navajo question. Beautiful Mountain is about 90 miles North of Gallup—I reached there first and when troops came in I told the Commander Capt Craig 12 Cav that if I could get an automobile I would get ahead of him & have the matter settled before he could get up there and not to come nearer than 20 miles any how unless I should send for him—the matter was settled before his rear ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p021.jpg) [Column 1] with McLaughlin at Nelsons— (besides being my aide he is also my son) but reflected that those Indian occasions are becoming rare and he might never see another so I took him along— There was a very dramatic scene at the talk—they agreed to do anything I told them—I told them they must go to Santa Fe for trial—We drove 82 miles in cold mud & snow to Gallup where I turned them over to U. S. Marshal Galusha of [Column 2] 3 Guard got into his camp— I stayed at Noels Store 6 miles from the stronghold the troops stopped at Nelsens store 23 miles from the stronghold— M Laughlin & Shelton were at Nelsens when I got them & told me not to go to Noels as the Indians were in such a condition they were likely to do me as the Modocs did Gen. Ca[--]y on a similar occasion—I thought for a moment of leaving my aide Lt. D. H. Scott us cav ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p022.jpg) Albuquerque—they stood their trial at Santa Fe—got various terms which have now been served and they are back on their own ground & the Agent is stirring up another case I hear by a letter to day—it occurred before we were there should have been settled then—but there is a serious lack of tact in dealing with these people. I got a very nice telegram from the Secy War at Gallup also one each from Chief of Staff & Commissioner of Indian Affairs—& later fnd'd from Santa Fe a letter from the Sec'y Interior & later still one from the President—I enclose copies last two—in fact I acquired much more merit from it than belonged to me—the press took it up from the Atlantic to the Pacific the Outlook—Leslies Weekly N.Y, Sun & Times etc—all treated it in a very friendly way—Id like much to go back with you in some of your trips to the Crow country—I have wanted to go back for 25 years each winter some old Crow Cheyenne or Blackfoot dies and with him dies information that I want—some- thing that will never be known on Earth again— Very sincerely yours H. L. Scott ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p023.jpg) Brooklyn N. Y. Jany. 21st 1914. My Dear friend Mr. Camp, Your letter was recived, and I am very glad to heare from you, and this it lives me very wel, and I hope you are the same. Dear Mr Camp, reffiering to the list of thise Belong to the 7th Cavalry of difreed troops. I now all lot of them, but I do not Know th were they are now, but I will inquire from this on and I will let you Know. Dear Mr Camp, on the 25th of June 1876 the attack was made By Sitting bull a bout 12. o clock, m, but they were no trumpet Bhing on that after noon, but on the morning of the 26th of June, a Bout 5. o.clock I was ordered by maj. Reno to Blow 1st call for reville, so I did and after I got true with last note. I had 5. or 6 trumpets were Blowing to make fun of me, and thise were Indiens, in their Camp and the firing line, and that all I Know and thise trumpets. were beling to the trumpetors of the Troops under Gen. Custer often they got Killed, and this all at present. Yours truly. J. Martin ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p024.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Feb. 7, 1914. Mr. Baptiste Pourier, Manderson, S. Dak. Dear Sir:-- About three years ago you told me about your experience on the Sibley scout, in July, 1876, when Frank Grouard was along and the party left their horses tied in the timber and made their way back to Gen. Crook's camp on foot. I would like to ask if you can tell me the approximate location of the place where these horses were left. Was it anywhere near the Little Bighorn river, or was it nearer the Tongue? And was it very far from the road to old Fort C. F. Smith? I will thank you for any information regarding this matter, which I desire for historical purposes. The last time I saw you I took athedak picture of you and George Colhoff standing together, at the Catholic Indian congress, at Drexel Mission. I would like to have a better picture of you. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p025.jpg) [Column 1] Majestic Palace Hotel Nice Feb [---] 1914— Dear Mr. Camp- I am greatly honored so you will pardon a brief reply [---] note of inquiry. 1—I was in command of all Sen. Miles Scouts, both White and Indian. 2—We found the indian Trail after crossing the Missouri, <(Cow Island)> informed General Miles and the next day joined in fight at Bear Paw on Snake Creek. [Column 2] I may add we had a fight with the indians on the 25th wounding or killing two, and capturing a herd of horors. This obout 25 miles from the scene of fight & L[---] at Bear Paw. 3. I was sent after the band of indians (refugees) we captured on Milk River about 50 miles, if I remember correctly, from the scene of the fight—they escaped from the camp during the first days fight—These were about 45— H. L. Scott, was present ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p026.jpg) [Column 1] at the capture. I was in command and he joined me. There were some fighting men but we came on them suddenly and they surrendered with no fight, you might write (Gen. H. L. Scott) They were making for the border (Canada) I presume my here party White Bird's party—Some of them, (one (or two) were wounded) I do not remember the names of all the indian scouts. I had 32 Cheyennes besides the Whites, Trippe [--]alge and Yellowstone Kelly (all white were with me) I do not know of any Sen. Howard had. He took no active part in the fight. was not there till later— Recommend you read General Miles' Personal Recollections about this affair. It is correct in substance about Lowell Jerome I can ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p027.jpg) [Column 1] [--]t now say. We was in N. Y. the last time I saw him. Better with to West Point about him (Cullum's Register). He put into the Indian Camp and they kept him prisoner. We had Chief Joseph. I exchanged Jerome for Joseph (see Kisling) I might add I was recommended [Column 2] for Medal Honor for my action here, as I already had one, it was not given. I am fond of the 7th Cav. I sewed with "E" Troop (Capt McDougall) for some time <(another)> am [---] [---] can help. With you back, by Sincerely Yours Marion P. Mans ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p028.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Feb. 17, 1914. Gen. R. H. Pratt, The Kenesaw Washington, D. C. Dear General:-- I have just now gotten around to reading over the abund- ance of literature that you kindly provided me when I called on you last month. The clipping from the Philadelphia North American, in which you discuss some of the pernicious activities of Mr. Leupp, I am to return, but I would like to retain it a little longer. There are considerable portions of it which I would like to make a copy of, and th time is not available just now. Your application of the "deadly parallel" to that gentleman's case certainly shows him up, and I now can understand more clearly some of the sentiments that are expressed in his book. He reminds me very much of a type of men that I have observed in all lines of work--if they failed to make a record by assisting, they would try thier luck at atar- tempting to tear down. I also seein what manner he "mixed with Indians" "for 25 years," as he says, in his book, that he had done. Now I have a question or two to ask of you. In reading your address "American Indians, Chained and Unchained", I understand that the Indians whom you brought to Hampton, from Florida, in 1878, were the first Ind- ians recieved at that institution, and that such was the beginning of the policy of non-reservation schools: also that you were the originator of that idea or policy. Am I entirely correct in this view? I also wish to ask if you know what the attitude of Gen. Crook was toward the policy of sending northern Indians down to the Indian Terri- tory to live, as was done with the Northern Cheyennes and the Nez Perces. Was he as radical on that question as was Gen. Sheridan and some others? I have returned, by parcels post, the half-tone cut of your por- trait which I borrowed from you. Don't forget to send me a copy of that "vision" of yours it is published; or, at least, a type-written copy of it if it is not published. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p029.jpg) The Kenesaw, Washington, D. C. February 20, 1914. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue Chicago, Illinois. My dear Mr. Camp: I have yours of the 17th. It is all right to keep the North American clipping until you get through with it, as I have another, but I would like it returned when you have finished with it. In regard to the first Indians brought to Hampton, I can say yes, except that there was one poor little Apache from some where out West that they had in the school at the time I arrived with the prisoners, and he was then in duress for some misconduct, and recieved only one meal a day, whereat I laughed when I found that he could have as much as he wanted at that meal. He did not fall under my jurisdiction and I do not know how long the punishment lasted, but he only remained at the school for a little while, so that my party was really the first batch.. It can hardly be stated that Hampton or Carlisle either were the first non-reservation attempts. There was a school established by the American Missionary Association at some point in Connecticut and continued for quite a number of years. It was for the benefit of the Cherokees, Choctaws, Creeks and Chickasaws who occupied the southern tier of states, Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi when the school was established, but ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p030.jpg) * [This school was at Cornwall, Conn. See mention of it under the heading Boudinot, Elias" in Handbook of American Indians. Look also under subject "Education"] ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p031.jpg) WMC.-#2 during its life most of these Indians were moved to the Indian Territory. They brought forward the young Indians with great success. I think they were all boys. The educated young men were so attractive that several of them carried off to their Indian Territory homes young white brides from whom are de- scended the strong characteristics that managed the affairs of the tribes. This turn in the work of the school became a contention in the Association supporting it and the school was abandoned. I have some where a record of this school but cannot just now put my hands on it. Hampton accepted the Indians and has continued them there all the years as an adjunct to the general purpose of the school, which was created for the Negro as you perhaps know. Carlisle was the first distinctively non-reservation school established and maintained by the Government. I do not know Gen. Crook's attitude towards the policy of sending North American Indians to the Territory, and do not think that he had anything to do with either the North Cheyennes or the Nez Perces going there. I know of course quite all that is known about the North Cheyennes and the Nez Perce going to the Territory. They went there as prisoners of War which was a cal- amity to the purpose of keeping them there. If they had been kindly persuaded and properly handled it might easily have been in both cases very greatly to their advantage as well as to the advantage of the Government. All right about the Vision. I intend to overhaul it and submit it a little later for publication. Sincerely yours, R H. Pratt ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p032.jpg) FEB 24, 1914 W. M. Camp, Dear Sir Yours of 16" returning, note rec'd. While Gen. Crook generally was not in favor of moving various tribes to the Indian Territory, I think that he was in care of the Northern Cheyennes, on account of their bad influence over the Sioux with whom they were affiliated. They were a restless, turbulent, fighting people, more untamable, and antag- onistic that the Sioux. Red Cloud made me of them as agitators. I had a thousand of them transfered to me from the Indian Territory, and while with me, they caused more trouble than the eight thousand Sioux. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p033.jpg) The name became a byword among our Sioux, if we had an unusually troublesome, fighting Sioux, the others would term him a "regular Cheyenne" Yours [---]y U. P. M. Gillyondd ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p034.jpg) Fort Thomas Ky March 3rd 1914. Mr. W. M. Camp Chicago, Ill. My dear Sir: In response to your inquiry of 2" inst. Capt. (B[--]ch Major) Thomas B. Burrowes of 9th Infantry was stationed on Camp Robinson, with his company "G" 9 " Infty at that time in September 1877—and he and his company left there for Omaha the following Nov- ember.—There were no other companies of the 9" Infty then stationed there.— Should you ever visit the Cheyenne and Arapahoe Indians in Oklahoma I want you to meet Mr John H. Seger—who has been among these Indians over forty years. He is still in the Indian ser- vice—his address is Clinton Oklahoma. He is a phenomenal character and knows more about Indians—especially these Indians than any man I know of. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p035.jpg) I am sending you one of his pamphlets. He is absolutely truthful whatever he says.— Our best regards to you and yours.— I think I have fairly recovered from my severe surgical operation of over a year ago. On 24 of last January I passed the 71st mile stone on the high-way of my life—so now I am "the old man at home." Sincerely Yours Jesse M Lee Excuse this scrap of paper— ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p036.jpg) March 3, 1914. Postmaster, Ft. Bridger, Wyo. Dear Sir:-- I am writing a history of the Indian wars of the West, and, in this connection, I would like to be able to give some definite loca- tion of the site of old Fort Bridger, on the Black Fork of the Green, where the old frontiersman James Bridger once lived. If you are near the site of Bridger's fort could you give me the number of the section or quarter section whereon the fort was located, or, if not, could you give me the name of some party who could likely give me this information? Any courtesy that you can do me in this matter will be much of a favor, and I will thank you. Yours truly, P. S. Is there any part of the old fort or other landmark standing? ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p037.jpg) Fort BRIDGER, WYO., March 7 14 Mr. W. M. Camp Chicago Dear Sir: Your letter of Mar 3rd is at hand. I do not want to get in any Controversy over Jun Bridger with peo- ple who will tell you differently, but I do not believe there is and credible evidence that Bridger ever had a fort, I have read much about him in the newspapers that I do not believ is true. I was born here in 1863. My father came here as part travler with Jal[---] Son's army in 1857. I was well acquainted with Jack Robinson who was a contemporary of Bridger and have often talked with him about early days in this country. Robinson was often with Bridger, and while he was a squaw man and lived the life of the indians, he was respected by every one who knew him, and his word was as good as any man's in the country. Bridger on the contrary was not reliable and was looked upon as an impos- sible liar. His business was supposed to be trading with the indians for furs, po- nies etc., but his principle occupation ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p038.jpg) Was selling Whiskey to the indians. The Mormons warned him to quit and when he disregarded the warning they sent a party of men who destroyed his "port" and he only escaped by hiding in the thick willows nearby. An old Man named Jolen Wade, who has been in this country a great many years, tells me that he was with Bridger at the time and carried food to him until he had an opportunity . I can not guarantee War's veracity, although he tells his story straight. You can address him at Millburne, near here or if you wish I will get a state- ment from him. He is perfectly clear headed and really talks too much, but his facts sum to seem to fit one another. Bridger escaped from the Mormons and made his way back to Atchison Kane Where he was engaged by the com- manding officer of the Expedition as a guide. When they reached Canyo Seat, (the name that they gave to the first Canyo on Black's Fork). General John- son decided to establish a fort about two miles north and further down the stream, at the point where Fort Bridger ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p039.jpg) was himself. Jim Bridger had repre- sented to Philip St George Cooke who commanded the advance co[---] of Johnson's army, that he held a grant from the Mexican Government of a tract of land on Black's Horn and later General Johnson leased a tract 20 x 25 miles, for a military reservation subject to the approval of the War Department, and named the fort in honor of Bridger. When the matter was looked into the Washington it was found that the Mexican govern- ment had made no grants in this part of the country and Bridger's claim was disallowed, and the lease can- celled. Later Jim Bridger returned to his old home (at Atchison I think) and in a sym- pathetic period congress passed a hill about 20 years ago to reimburse Bridger for his "improvements" I have seen men who declared that they had been in Bridger's fort had I can on[-]is [-]ird they were mistaken or were dreaming on their imagination. I have been in the cattle business here for a long time and have walked and ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p040.jpg) 3 ridden over every foot of ground about here, but I have never seen any indication or trace of Bridger's fort. My father stated in his letters & diary that they heard, that Bridger had a bush camp made of poles & windows and that the Mor- mons burned it when they drove him off. The Mormons build a block house or fort on the site that was afterwards Ch[--]en for the past. It was made of Cobble stones set in mud and part of the wall still stands although it is past crumbling down. It is dangerous to attack heros and the only reward one would get would be abuse from Bridger's relatives and worshipers, so I don't care to get mixed up in it. Some of these facts however can undoubtedly be substantiated lay the records of the War Department in Washington. I do not want to appear in the light of a detractor from dead man's reputations, but in honesty I can only state that from what I have heard from many of the old timers, Jim Bridger was a notorious old liar and fraud. If you publish a history of this country ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p041.jpg) I5 W. A. CARTER DEALER IN GENERAL MERCHANDISE BRIDGER, WYO.. I would like to buy a copy when it is in print. I wish however that some one would take the trouble to look up the Fort Bridger lease and what correspondence there may have been about it and publish the facts. Yours truly W. A. Carter I wish that before the John Wade I spoke of dies a statement could be detained from him and made a matter of record. He was here from my earliest recollec- tions and at me t[---] road for the pony epress. There is another man named Robt Herefork, a son in law of Jack Robinson, who I think is still living and when I last heard from him lived with his s[-]an & family on the shorthand in the Shoshone indian reservation near Lander Wyo. He could of course only tell you what he heard from Robinson but Herefork was here at a very early day. He was a man of considerable education and perfectly truthful. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p042.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., March 15, 1914. Gen. R. H. Pratt, The Kenesaw, Washington, D. C. Dear Gen. Bratt:-- I thank you for your two letters of Feb. 20 and March 9, the latter enclosing a copy of your "vision". There is expression of much fine sentiment in the latter that ought to be perpetuated, and I am pleased to have a copy of it. A week or ten days after the battle of Wounded Knee a Lieutenant Casey was killed on Pine Ridge reservation, by a Sioux whose name I am not just certain of at this moment, as my noted on that event are in the safety vaults and not available this evening, but I think it was Plenty Bear The army records say that he was a Brule. This fellow was tried in Yankton and acquitted, on the ground, I am told, that his act was committed as one of war, so that, technically, it was not murder within the meaning of the law. I was told up at Pine Ridge some years ago that he was a graduate of Carlisle, and I have heard the same thing several times since. It seems, however, that I ought not to accept this without verification, and it just occured to me that if he was one of the Carlisle boys you would have known it at the time, as there was a good deal about him in the newspapers while the trial was going on. Do you recall the incident, and how about the statement that he a graduate of the Carlisle school? If he was<,> he must have been one of the original group taken there in Spotted Tail's time, that you were telling me about. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p043.jpg) March 14, 1914. Mr. W. A. Carter, Fort Bridger, Wyo. Dear Sir:-- I am much pleased to receive your letter of 7th inst., and I thank you for the information which it contains about Bridger. I am neither surprised nor disappointed in what you say with reference to the veracity of Bridger. "Jim Bridger's lies" was a proverbial expression much used all over the East some 50 or 60 years ago, so I find in read- ing newspaper accounts of some of his stories. Nevertheless, he seems to have been considerable of an explorer, and historians can not ignore him. It is my desire to learn the exact truth about his residence in the part of the country called Fort Bridger, and how he came to leave there, no matter where it hits. Two years ago I was in Salt Lake City for a few days and visited the library of the Historian of the Mormon Church. There I was given this information about Bridger: While they say nothing about any grant from the Mexican government to Bridger, they did say that, according to Mex- ican laws, Bridger was entitled to 9 miles square <(although he claimed 30x30);> and they claim that Brigham Young bought this "nine miles square" from Bridger and paid him eight thousand dollars for it, taking a deed from Bridger. Afterward the Mormons were disposessed of this by Johnston's army, and they never recovered it. They said that the so-called "Bridger's Fort" was on an island in the Black Fork, and that in place of it, or somewhere in that vicinity, they (the Mormons) built a stone fort. They described Bridger's fort as a "log fort or block house". I found, in contemporary newspapers, accounts that the Mormons had some grievance against Bridger, but there was no specific statement as to just what Bridger's offense was. Although I explained that my inter- ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p044.jpg) est in Bridger was purely historical, they seemed to regard my persist- ency in the matter with some suspicion, and the above is the extent of the information that I was able to get. I am not clear as to their so-called "stone fort", which you de- scribe as being built of cobble stones and mud, was on the site of Bridger's dwelling place or not. According to the accounts of some of the army officers, Bridger's place had been burned before Johnston's army got there, but they describe it as consisted of two log houses, with a stockade of logs around them; and at the place the river was divided into several channels that ran around the houses and stockade. As you have kindly offered to get from Mr. John Wade, for me, a statement of what he knew about Bridger, I will consider it much of a favor if you will do this. If he was with Bridger when the Mormons drove him out, he can very likely locate the place where Bridger lived, and say, with certainty, what the character of the houses wes, and whether there actually, was a stockade or a block house. If he can lo- cate the site of this habitation I would like very much to learn the number of the section and quarter section on which it now lies. In connection with any details that Wade may give about the life of Bridger (the more the better it will suit me), I would suggest that you try to have him cover the question as to whether Bridger ever sold any land or other property in the vicinity to the Mormons, and if they paid him for it. Also a statement as to the nature of Bridger's troub- le with the Mormons, and how they drove him away--all the details he wil can recall. I had no idea that any one was now living who was an eye witness to these things, and it will be a good thing if we can have Wade's story, as you suggest. I assure you that I have no intention of starting any controversy in the matter, wishing only to get at the truth, whether favorable to the memory of Bridger or not. The matter is of no im- portance at this day except for historical purposes, and these little points that we are discussing ought to be settled while there is oppor- tunity. The next time I go to Washington I will try to find record of the lease that Johnston's quartermaster made with Bridger, and the report of any investigation that was made as to Bridger's title to the property, if such is on record. Greatly appreciating any co-operation that you can give me, I re- main Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p045.jpg) Rock Port, Mo., 3—17 1914 W M Camp Chicago Ill Dear Mr Camp Your Kind letter of 9th & Photo came duly for which please accept my Thanks—I do not know who built The fort but suppose Cal Carrington—I Think at first it Was a log fort—but That summer <[1867]> They was Changing it—putting in Adobe—The brick Was made on The ground out of The soil on The second beach above the river— I am Thinking of going Through Your City some time This year & if I do will call— Trusting you will be sucessful in your book & with best wishes I am kindly &c D A Calvin Rock-Port Use ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p046.jpg) Wind River Wyoming 3./22, 1914. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave. Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir In answer to youres of the 15 ult Would respectfully State, that the names of those who were in the Hay Field Fight at Ft. O. F Smith, as neare as I can Remember D. A. Calvin, Zeke Calvin, Robert Little, Albert Howard Robert Wheeler, William, Haynes George, Duncan, Holister who was wounded and died the next day. Was from Kansas Citty. I have foregotten his first name. I am not shure about B. F. Harwood. I thoght that he came to the Ft. with Nelse Starrys Trains. From Boseman [-]ont. Two or three days after the Fight. Big Bat will remember, as he and John and Lewis Reshaw came with the same outfit. Albert Howard and my Albert Albertson are the same. I had foregotten his name. Albert Howard was the man who under stood the Sioux language and who taked with them during the Fight. There were two Companeys that came to our There were two Companys that Came to our ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p047.jpg) reliefs. Capt. Burrows Commanded out and Lieut Shurly the other of course Burrows was the Ranking officer. Burrows Company was in advance of Shurlys Company, and when they were about -½ mile from the Carral, there were a Few Shots Fired at them from the Brush along the Creek. Burrows ordered the men to Halt, a number of Shurleys men Sp[--]k to me afterwards about the insident. Shurley Ordered Burrows to go on as he will remember that we were afraide that the Soldiers Would Turn back when Fired on out of the Brush, we Knowing that there were a Few Indians skulking along there. he will remember that we had evry thing ready to them if they stuffed, and to make them come on to the Carral Lieut Shurley was a Fine Brow officer, the Reason Al. and Al. are in dipute is that Al. Calvin remembers Lieut Shurley as the Officer who took hold and helped us with the Dead and Wounded, and Burrows as the Officer who swore at me for delaying evry thing, he ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p048.jpg) gathering up What I Could at Leightons property I remember Calvin telling him to take his Dad out fit and leave if he was afraid to stay while we gathered up valuable property which we knew would he destroyed by the Indians as soone as we were out of Sight. Calvin told Leighton about Burrows Swearing at me in the Store that might the Store was Full of Officers and men all taking of the Fight. When Burrows Came in Leighton. Pitched in to him and I never heard a man get such a tongue lashing as he gave Burrows. I am Shure Leighton would have Killed him if he had opned his mouth. The Soldiers were armed With, 50. Cal. Needle guns Breach landers they had just recieved them that Spring. I remember the Crow Indians Saying that the Siouxs asked them what Kinds of long Guns the Soldiers had that they Stuck there the Brush and Kept Shooting all the time without Stopping to load. Al Calvin Had a Henery Riffle 16 Shot 44 Cal Rim Fire [---]k Calvin had an Enfield musel loader which he had Carried thru the War of the Rebellion. he Killed the First Indian ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p049.jpg) that was killed in the Fight with it. he afterwards took a Needle Gun from a Soldier who was threatning to commit suaside with it and used it thru out the the day Geo Duncan had a Winchester 44 Cal Riffle Bob Little had a Winchester 44 Cal Rifle. Bob Whealer had a Spencer Rifle 50 Cal 7 Shot Repeater Holister had a double Barreled musle Loader Shot gun Billy Haynes Had a Ballard Breach loader 44 Cal Albert Howard Had a Spencer Carbine 7 Shot Breach loader 50 Cal. I had Spencer Carbine 7 Shot Breach loader and a double barreld musel loader Shot guns. I have often wondred how many Indians Al Calvin Killed and Wounded. in that Hay Field Fight. he had 1000 Rounds of ammunition. and was one of the best Shots that I ever met. he Shot at Indians all day at a distance of from 20 ft to 75 yds. with all of the quick Cool presision that he would use in Shooting at a target. he did not have to save his ammunition as I and others did. I had only 40 rounds. I picked up a double Hand Full of the little Cartridge Shells. that were Fairely covering the ground around where he sat. there were Hundreds of them if he ever missed a Shot none of us saw it ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p050.jpg) you know Col Graves Command Found 50 dead on a ledge South of where the Fight Took place. the Crow indians guided them to the place and told them there was a greate many more just a little ways Father on if they wanted to se them. Col Greene had arrived at Ft Smith two or three days after the Fight and doubted oure Starry of the probable number of indians Killed a party of Crow indians had been to the Sioux Camp and told us that they had seene maney dead Indians on ledges of Rock along there rout to and From the Sioux Vilage Col Greene asked them if they would guide him to them, and they did A C Leighton went with the party, and he Said that they Counted over 50 on the First ledge they Came to and Col Greene said that was em[--]ce enough, the Crows wanted them to go on they Said there were plenty more. Leighton Said they could se them on evry ledge as Fare as they Could Se. I am Glad to know that you visited D. A. Calvin and A. C Leighton. you now must have all of the Facts in regarde to the Hay Field Fight. I will be pleased to answer any further inquiry you may wish to make one ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p051.jpg) youres Truely F. G. Burnett, Wind River, Wyoming ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p052.jpg) Rock Port, MO., 4-3 1914 W M Camp Esteemed Sir Your kind letter came duly— I thank you very much for the Photos—I hand you a letter from Burnett which you Can read & return—I was not Certain about Mr Harwood myself but it dont matter anyway—I Think Mrs Mo[--]oe is dead— With my best wishes for your Self & Family I Am Kindly &c D A Calvin ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p053.jpg) The Kenesaw, Washington, D. C., April 9, 1914. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Illinois. My dear Mr. Camp: The commencement exercises at Carlisle have been on since the receipt of your letter and I have not written them in regard to the information you wanted about Plenty Horses. I am writing them now to inform you direct. In going through my letter files, destroying con- siderable quantities of useless material, I ran across the enclosed which have some bearing and give you something of the Wounded Knee times. Two Stries was one of the leaders of that battle as you know. His son, Arthur, was one of my first students. S. J. Tappin was one of the great Sioux commission with Gen. Sherman, Sanborn and others. Of course you know Gen. Dravo. I do not care to have the letters returned. You may destroy them. With kind regards, I am Yours truly, RHP/DMC R. H. Pratt ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p054.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., April 14, 1914. Mr. F. G. Burnett, Wind River, Wyo. Dear Mr. Burnett:-- I thank you for your letter of March 22 giving me further explanations of the incidents of the Hayfield fight. It is now clear to me that both Burrowes and Shurly were there with the relief party--and the printed record makes it appear that there was still one more officer with the said relief party. I did not find this printed official report until the other day. It is very brief, but says that four officers were engaged, including Sternberg, who was killed. The only other officer mentioned by name is Burrowes, the commanding officer. There was probably a 2nd lieutenant with either Burrowes' or Shurly's company, but it does not matter wheth- or not I got his name. I presume that you are thinking me a pretty persistent fellow, but there is another matter still that I would like to have the benefit of your recollection of. Mr. Leighton cannot reconcile his recollection to the fact that the fort was built of adobe, in 1867. Says he remembers all of the buildings and the stockade as built of logs. Mr. Colvin says he thinks the whole thing was built of [illegible deltion] logs at first, but was rebuilt of adobe bricks that summer of 1867. The ruins now show that there was a hollow square entirely enclosed by buildings, all of which were built of adobe bricks. What is your recollection of this matter? Can you recall that the fort was actually rebuilt, and for what reason? When you feel like writing, give me a little sketch of your life. Where were you born? How came you to get out to the Bighorn in that early day? How long have you lived at Wind River? and what positions have you held? Any other facts of interest, either during early or re- cent times. I am going up to Pine Ridge reservation this summer and will try to get more out of the ogalallas about this Hayfield fight. I never knew it was such an interesting affair until after I had heard you, [-]r. Col- vin and Mr. Leighton talk. Anseer at you convenience. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p055.jpg) WILLIAM A. CARTER FORT BRIDGER, WYO., April 19, 14 Mr. W. M. Camp Chicago Dear Sir, Since receiving your letter of March 14th I have seen John Wade only once and as we were riding on the mail wagon over bad roads did not get a good chance to talk with him. Wade says that he came out here with his parents in 1850, that his father was Leut out as the first U. S. Marshall for state and for some reason which I did not get this Wade stopped, here and went up into Idaho with Louis Vasquez, Jim Bridger's partner. He says that when Brigham Young was appointed Governor of State, he over troops over to arrest Bridger who was accused of selling or trad- ing rifles and ammunition to In- dians, and that Young offered 100000 for his capture. Where I asked in what year this occur- red he said 1859, which of course was not right because this post was established in 1858 the year ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p056.jpg) WILLIAM A. CARTER FORT BRIDGER, WYO., after the troops came out. I think while Wade's mind seems alert, that his memory is a little defective. He says that while Youngs soldiers were here Bridger was hid up the river a mile or two in the top of a large tree, that he carried food to him when he went out to drive in the horses. I think this is romancing again. He locates Bridger's fort near the spot where the Mormons built a cobble stone wall, that I spoke of in my other letter, and says that it was was a log building built in an L shape. If this is true it was on the SW ¼ of the SW ¼ of Sec 33 some 15 N R 115 W 6th P. M. If you should ever be passing you could stop off at Carter & see Wade by a 15 mile drive to Millburne. He has lived in this country for a length of time to which no mans mind p[---]eth to the contrary. He says he used to ride the Pony Express. He wasn't in this immediate vicinity , and while I have always heard of him ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F23_B2_F1_p057.jpg) William A. Carter Fort Bridger, Wyo., I never heard my father or any of the old timers say anthing much about him, and did not know he was here at such an Early date until he told me so. A man named Robert Hesepod, a son in law of Jack Robertson was still alive when I last heard, [-] lived [---] the Shoshone Reservation near Lander, Wyo. The Shoshone Agent could tell you about him. Hereford was very accurate, and very reliable, and any in- formation he can give you could depend upon. Yours Truly W A Carter John Wa[--]'s vocation of Bri[-]g[--] h[---] ding was an island. Ware says that Bridger was a very rough man but a shroud t[---] mile his partner Vasquis was very good natured. He says that Bridger said his Claim here to Brigham Young for 20000 00. My father told me 2500 00 Warde told me that the fence around Bridges building was made of old wagon wheels fastened together with millons. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p001.jpg) Pine Ridge S. D. June 22 '1914 My Dear Mr Camp:— For once you caught me very busy and I must be brief. "Brown's Valley"—Minnesota, on The Great Northern is our depot station for the next conference. It will meet at Lake Traverse on The Sisseton Reservation. The church is about 5 or 6 miles from The Brown's Valley Depot, and I presume the camp will be near the church, though I have not heard from the local committee. I am not chairman this year, so do not have much to do with it. If I can only remember I'll send you a program. If it does not show up, please remind me again about it. We expect to go into camp about the evening of Sept 2 (Wednesday) and have the Conference sept 3-6 inclusive. This would be a good year for you to come, as it is near enough to a town for you to have hotel accommodation. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p002.jpg) I always find it a burden to carry my tent and blankets, especially when my family go along. There will probably be a fair representation of Standing Rock Indians this year. Spotted Horse is practically Blind and consequently is very poor. I think he cannot possible go. He Dog is showing age very fast. I fear he is too feeble. He does not try these long trips now. Woman Dress does not belong to our church and will not likely go to the Conference. Here are a few items I gathered for you but neglected to write you. They are not in any shape only a memorandum. Sitting Bulls two wives 1 Ayate Wanyankapi Win 2 Ta Sine topa win ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p003.jpg) Ayate Wanyankapi Win's children are Mary Wakaw Najin Win (Spotted Horse' wife) Kaugi Siha Crow foot (was killed after day light—perhaps 17 years old. Ta'suna lotra wins children William Settle Sitting Bull (died a few years ago at Eagles Nest, Pine Ridge) one daughter Nancy a girl of about 10 years—Pine Ridge, Boarding School) Lizzie Ti Taneu Win (Married Obed Scares of Pine Ridges and died about 10 or [illegible deletion] 12 years ago more or less—having a daughter Jenny Scares—Pine Ridge Boarding School) Mary Spotted Horse children—1 Myrtle 2 Alice 3 Agnes 4 Julia 5 Andrew 6 Joshua 7 Sarah 8 Elijah 9 Isaac. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p004.jpg) Ayate Wauyaukapi Win had a son I Ie Sue—a deaf mute— (living)—but not Sitting Bull's child— Also, Ta 'Sina topa Win,—a son— Henry Little Soldier, but not supposed to be Settler Sitting Bulls son. He lives here & has a large family. After the killing, they the widows & orphans were put in the Agency Guard House for some months. When they were released they came to Pine Ridge Ag Reservation. Pte San hunka (is living) was a son of Settl Sitting Bulls older Sister Wiyakewa'stewiu—He lives at Cherry Creek S. D. St[-] se Yanke (Andrew Good Thunder) is a brother of Spotted Horse's father. Lives at Rosebud. Crow foot was hid under ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p005.jpg) 4 the blankets. The women fled. Woman Dress is not a relative. Gray Eagle Four Blankets (Tasina topa Win) Ayate Wanyankapewin had same father & mother. I have forgotten the connection of these items in your plan, but I collected them after my return from the Hospital in Chicago after your visit. I got them from Mrs. Mary Spotted Horse. I expect to see Spotted Horse after the middle of July, and if anything is not clear, or does not tally with your records let me know, and I'll try to [-] investigate it for you. Believe me, Ever Yours, Very faithfully, A. F. Johnson ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p006.jpg) Ing Mrs Spotted Horse The Sitting Bull Family Sitting Bull's two wives were Oyate Wanyankapiwin and Tashina Topawin Oyate Wanyankapiwin's children were-- Mary Wakan Nazhinwin, or Mrs. S. H. Kangi Siha, Crow Foot, killed with S. B. Tashina Topawin's children were:-- William Sitting Bull, who died on Pine Ridge a few Lizzie, Titanon win, Married Obed Scores. William Sitting Bull had a daughter Nancy, a girl now about 10 years old, who is attending the Pine Ridge Boarding School. Mrs. Scores died some ten or a dozen years ago and left a daughter Jenny Scores, who is attending the Pine Ridge Boarding School. Mrs. Spotted Horse has nine <10> children, as follows:--(1) Myrtle, (2) Alice, (3) Agnes, (4) Julia, (5) Andrew, (6) Joshua, (7) Sarah, (8) Elijah, (9) Isaac. (10) Bo[--]i Oyate Wanyankapi win had a son Ie Shni, a deaf mute, now living, but not Sitting Bull's son. Inquiry: Is this the Mich deaf and mute boy, about 25 years old, whom I saw at Gray Eagle's home? Yes, says Herbert Welch [---] [---] S. H. Tashina Topawin had a son, Henry Little Soldier, but not supposed to be Sitting Bull's son, who now lives on Pine Ridge and has a large fam- ily. After Sitting Bull was killed the widows and orphans were put in the Agency guard house for some months. When they were released they went to the Pine Ridge reservation and have lived there since. Ptesan Hunka was a son of Sitting Bull's older sister Wiyake Washtewin Stose Yanka is a brother of Spotted Horse's father. Gray Eagle, Tashina Topawin and Oyate Wayankapiwin were children of the same father and mother. Inquiring: Did S. B. have other children who died before coming to maturity? Yet but 4 died in infancy before SB killedt There were 2 pairs of twins Ie Shi[-] broth[-] of Mrs Spotted Horse but not son of S. B. Crow Foot could talk says Mrs S. H. Mrs S. H. now 7/20/14 in 38 years sed Crow Fort was 2 yrs older Tita Iwin = Her Lodge in Sight Two pairs of twins—one pair by each wife—died young I met Henry Little Soldier 7/21/14 at Beef Issue Station on White Clay Creek Ing Mrs Spotted Horse Was she at battle of Wounded Knee. How came she to leave Grand River & when did she leave. They were afraid [-] remain there She was not at Wounded Knee neither with Big Foot Picture of Sitting Bull's House The shorter of the two wives in Tashina Top[---]in The girl on the right is Wa[-]an Nozhin Oyate Wamyankapi is dead So says Mrs Spotted Horse ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p007.jpg) June 26, 1920. Mr. James B. Watson, Teamster, Q. M. Dept., U. S. Army, San Francisco, Calif. Dear Sir:-- I am writing a history of the 7th U. S. Cavalry and am looking up as many of the veterans of that regiment as can be found. I would like to get into communication with James Watson, who was an enlisted man in C Troop, 7th Cavalry from 1875 to about 1880. I would like to ask if you are the party, or are you the same man to whom I wrote at Fort Sam Houston last year. I will thank you for a reply, and enclose an addressed postal card. There are anumber of men of C Troop who would like to hear from the James Watson whom I am trying to locate. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p008.jpg) Pine Ridge, So. Dak., Aug 27 1914 Dear Friend Mr. Camp:— Thank you for the picture of Spotted Horse. I will hand it over to him the first time he comes to the Agency. The name of the baby you inquire about is Zona. I presume that is the way to spell it. I am often puzzled to get such names when they give the name. Inclosed I send you a statement from the Surgeon who has healed Spotted Horse. I presume it is profane for me to say that I have grave [illegible deletion] doubts about Spotted Horse having Trachoma, but I presume the other man knows more about the case than I do. Will you kindly present the letter and case to The Presbyterian Hospital—Try to see Mr Asa Bacon in person—not the clerk. Also please return me the Doctors letter. I shall be anxious to hear what action the Hospital will take. If it cannot go as a "Charity Case" I cannot do anthing. Yours very truly A. F. Johnson ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p009.jpg) Sitting Bull's Descendants Spotted Horse Family [Crossed out in the bottom right margin] view of N[-]t at Lincoln ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p010.jpg) March 14, 1915. Frances A. Davis, Librarian, Wyo. State Library, Cheyenne, Wyo. Dear Madam:-- Your letter of 11th inst. is received. In reference to the place where Lieut. Daniels was killed by Indians, the army records say "on the Powder river". About 1½ years ago an ex-soldier who was an eye witness to the event gave me the details, and, upon looking up the notes of my interview with him, I find that he said Daniels was kill- ed near the crossing of Crazy Woman's fork, on the military road between Ft. Reno and Ft. Phil Kearny, commonly known as the Bozeman trail. I therefore reasoned that if both of these sources of information were correct the place must have been near the junction of Crazy Woman with Powder River. He gave me the distance from Ft. Reno to where the fight took place as 26 miles. It did not occur to me until after I had written you that you had told me this plce place was near Trabing. When I recalled this I took a look at the map, and it then seemed clear that the road to Ft. Phil Kearny must have crossed Crazy Woman a good distance above its mouth, or junction with Powder river. If such is the case my information from the ex-soldier, above referred to, can still be correct, but the army record wrong. I have written this party to ask him more particularly about the route of the road Daniels' party was traveling, and if he gives me anything that is more definite I will let you know. On other matters I have found this man a reliable [illegible deletion] source of information. I shall be pleased to learn what additional information you get from your brother. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p011.jpg) Aug. 7, 1915. Mr. Theodore D. Swarts, On White Bird Stage Line, From Grangeville, Ida. Dear Sir:-- I presume you have expected to hear from me before this, but I recall that you intended spending some months away from home, includ- ing a visit to the Exposition in San Francisco, and so I have not been in a hurry about writing. When I left your place you were quite anxious that I should see William Coram, in Grangeville, and hear his account of the battle in White Bird canyon. I saw Mr. Coram and had a long talk with him. His account of the battle differed materially from the one you gave me, es- pecially in regard to [illegible deletion] Perry and the soldiers being at the rocky point where you and I went to overlook the fighting ground. Mr. Coram said he could not recall having seen any soldiers there. He said that both soldiers and civilians were together at Graveyard Point when the fight started, and that the retreat started from there. Since my return I have read again Capt. Perry's account of the fight, and I find that you and he agree very well as to the ground oc- cupied by both civilians and soldiers, and fought over, and so I am ac- cepting your story of the positions in the battle as the correct one. You told me there were 13 civilians in the fight, but could remem- ber only 12 of them. You thought Coram could likely give me the other one, but he was unable to do this. I give your list below, and if you can, at any time, think of the missing one I will be glad if you will [-] send me his name. Your list was as follows:-- [Column 1] H. Faxon Frank Fenn Vincent Tellus William Bloomer [Column 2] John (Jack) Rainey John Barber George Shearer William Coram [Column 3] Charles Crooks T. D. Swarts Asa Jones* Ad. Chapman <*See letter from Swarts 1/21/10 attached> With kind remembrance of your courtesy to me, and with best wishes to Mrs. Swarts, as well as yourself, I remain Yours truly ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p012.jpg) Mr. Camp Dear Sir Aug. 9, 1915 it is some years since you called on Mr Petring in regards to the history you were writeing about the Custer fight. Will you kindly let me know if you have finished the book, and if it is published if so where can I get a copy Mr Petring has so often wished he could see the Book I wish to thank you for advising him to go to the Congressman to try for a pension. it was a hard fight but we won two years ago he is getting 12— per month, and we certainly need it very much, as there is no one to help us and I have very little to do at present. hopeing to hear from you soon. I am yours Respectfully Mrs H Petring 195 Stockholm st Brooklyn ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p013.jpg) White Bird Aug 28th 1915 Mr Camp Dear Sir Yours of the 7th inst came duly to hand. I was surprised to hear that Mr Coram differed with me in any material point I have made it my business to see him and if necessary to refresh his memory, the little inclosed note speaks for its self. None can remember the 13th man we have one chance left and if sucsessful will send his name. With the Very best wishs I remain Yours All— T D Swarts ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p014.jpg) Grangeville, Idaho, August 24, 1915. Mr. Camp, Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir:-- I have went over my statement to you in regard to the position of the volunteers at White Bird during the fight at that place with Mr. William Coram and he verifies everything that I said to you and is signing this letter with me. Yours very truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p015.jpg) Sept. 7, 1915. Mrs. W. W. Bowman, Grangeville, Idaho. Dear Madam:-- On Feb. 12, last, you kindly gave me an interview, telling me of the killing of your mother, Mrs. John Manuel, by Nez Perce Indians on June 14, 1877. I then promised to submit to you in writing my notes of the interview, so that you could make any corrections that you might think necessary. I regret having delayed so long, but enclosed herewith is my acc- ount of the matter as written up from the interview. I shall be glad if you will look this over and return to me, with any corrections or suggestions that you may care to make. I find in the History of North Idaho a more detailed story of the same affair, signed by you. I presume that you consider this to be correct. Thanking you for your courtesy to me, I remain Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p016.jpg) 419 Eddy Ave Missoula, Mont. Sept 19, 1915 Mr W. M. Camp Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir: Your letter of Sep. 6 has reached me here having been forwarded forwarded from Kooskia, Idaho. I am glad to contribute my mite. My recollection of the White Bird fight is fairly clear. It is my impression that there were but eleven (11) civilians engaged there. I clearly recall all the persons named in your list except Asa Jones. He is not remembered by me as one of the participants. You can ascertain the facts in this regard by addressing him at Grangeville, Idaho. It is observed that generally you give only the first Christian name of the parties listed. The middle initial I can give in most of the cases. The names are as follows= ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p017.jpg) H. A. Faxon, F. A. Fenn, Vincent Tullis William B. Bloomer, Jack W Rainey, John O. Barber, George M. Shearer Charles L. Crooks, Theodore D. Swarts, Arthur I. Chapman. Note the spelling of Tullis—not Tellus. Chapman's true name was Arthur—Ad was a nickname. According to my memory there were 99 soldiers and 11 civilians in the party 110 in all. As to the discrepancy between the statements of Swarts and Coram relative to the position of the soldiers Coram is nearer right than Swarts. The troops were not on the rocky plateau neither were they on Graveyard Point itself. I am enclosing a rough sketch map indicating the position of the troops and of the volunteers. The high rocky plateau was to the right of the soldiers whose right flank reached to within approximately 150 yards of the cliff marking the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p018.jpg) limits of the plateau. From this plateau two spurs or ridges put off towards White Bird Creek. They diverge as they approach the creek so that a gulch intervenes between them. The easterly spur terminates in Graveyard Point. This point rises quite abruptly from a sort of pass on its north side and is very steep on its south slope next to the creek. The wagon road traverses the pass. Just east of the pass and perhaps 50 feet less in elevation is a level tract of land of perhaps twenty acres. The road skirts this tract on the north side before reaching the pass. Beyond the pass the road descends to the flat or creek bottom and goes around the point or toe of the second spur. The troops were dismounted in the level tract and the men for the line were deployed as skirmishers, facing ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p019.jpg) West or down the creek, their left resting on the road in the pass. The volunteers with George M Shearer in charge were sent around or over Graveyard Point thus forming the extreme left of the line. Their right was on the top of the point and their front extended towards the creek about 25 or 30 yards from the top of the Point. The Indians deployed along the crest of the second spur ridge for the beginning of the action. There were but few of them in position there and these were merely advance skirmishers. Their main body was some distance down the creek but as soon as the position taken by the troops was developed a large number of Indians from the main body started through the brush up the creek evidently to turn their left flank and to get in our rear so as to reach a long ridge extruding from the clear to ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p020.jpg) foot of the main range of mountains. Had the Indian Skirmishers in our front been able to keep the attention of the soldiers for a few minutes longer, this flanking movement would have been entirely successful and all possibility of retreat would have been cut off. As it was the retrograde movement of the troops started within a very few minutes after the first shot was fired, and very quickly developed into a disorderly flight. To Lieut. Theller I believe is due the credit for saving the greater number of those who escaped. I personally heard Captain Perry appeal to Theller to try to stop the headlong flight of the men and I was one of a party of ten or twelve who responded to Teller's call for a stand just south of the point where the road crosses the long ridge above referred to. By the time the dread of ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p021.jpg) the retreating soldiers reached this point the Indians were coming up the ridge in considerable numbers bent on ex- ecuting their original design. The party with Theller was well in hand and he directed their fire with such good effect that the Indian advance was thoroughly chucked and the Indian column was turned down the hill to the east. At the bottom of this hill on that side the canyon is quite bushy and there the Indians took shelter but kept moving up the canyon in a course generally parallel with the road. After thus checking the Indians Theller very quietly directed his men to take to the road again with the view of getting ahead of the Indians a second time and in that way cover the retreat as well as possible. He explained briefly to the men just what he wished to do and it was ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p022.jpg) in the carrying out of that intuition that he and the most of his party were killed about a half mile farther up the road. When Theller ordered his party to resume the movement along the road I left them and joined Swarts, Faxon, Tullis and Chapman under the guidance of the last named who had lived in that vicinity a long while and who knew every cow trail in the region. Instead of trying to follow the road with the main party we started along up the ridge and near its junction with the main range struck a fairly good stock trail which we followed across the mountain and reached the prairie country ahead of the main body of retreating soldiers and civilians. I have thus tried to give you an outline ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p023.jpg) of what happened as I saw it. I am thoroughly familiar with all the ground described as I lived at the Manual Ranch in charge of a flock of sheep that pastured over the region from 1881 to 1890, and I made it a point to study and remember that disasterous field. Two volunteers were wounded H. A. Faxon shot through the thigh before we left Graveyard Point and T. D. Swarts whose wound was really self-inflicted. He carried a double action revolver and in at- tempting to draw it discharged the weapon, the ball passing down and to the rear through the hip. I was immediately behind him when the accident occurred and assisted him in extinguishing the fire that had been started in his clothing by the discharge. This last I write you not to discredit Mr. Swarts and not at all for publication, but merely as a matter of detail to indicate the credability or lack of it which you may think my narative entitled to. If what has ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p024.jpg) been written here will be of any service to you I shall be very glad. I can not close, however, without expressing my firm conviction that had Captain Perry possessed any of the Elements of a commander of men there need never have been a White Bird defeat. My personal observations satisfied me that he was one of the first to be seized with the panic that demoralized his whole command. I can never forget the frenzy of terror that seemed to possess him when he appealed to Sheller for help. The gallant Sheller is dead, Perry may be dead also for aught I know, but I feel that had the positions of these two men been reversed on that day an awful traged would have been averted, and not only so, but such a lesson would have been taught the Nez Perces that hostilities would have ended there instead of being prolonged until Joseph's Waterloo was found in the Bear Paw Mountains in Montana. Very truly yours J A Fenn ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p025.jpg) [Hand-drawn map with the following terms] N (approx) Cow Trail Lieut. Theler Killed Swartz Ranch Thelers' First Stand Small plateau Plateau Steep and Clifty Road Indians Low ridge Soldiers Low ridge Baker Ranch Indian Main Body Manual Ranch Road Bottom where Troops dismounted Graveyard Pr Steep Clift or Bank Indians White Bird Creek. Skirmishers No attempt is made to draw the above to scale. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p026.jpg) J. A. Fenn Missoula, Mont. Oct 30—1915 Mr. W. M. Camp 7740 Union Ave. Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir= Yours of Oct. 18 duly at hand. Am pleased to know what I wrote was acceptable. Had I an opportunity to talk the White Bird fight over with you I might give you some incidental details, side fights, that would be interesting. Relative to the statement of Mr. Swarts that Theller and his party were dismounted when overtaken= the statement must have been made on "hearsay" merely for Swarts and I were together during the retreat. We climbed the mountain together and neither of us was near where Theller fell when we were on the way out. The last I know of Theller was ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p027.jpg) when he left the high point, on the ridge not far from where Swarts' horse is now, and started up the road with the expressed intention of again getting ahead of the Indians who were advancing up the gulch or cañon to the east of the point. Swarts and I and the rest of our party left Theller there and took our own route up the cow trail, mentioned in my letter, under the guidance of Ad. Chapman. Very truly yours, J A Fenn ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p028.jpg) Jan 13, 1916 Mr. W. M Camp Chicago Ill. Dear Sir in answ[-] In regard to Being [-]ergeant Co C 27 US Infantry. Yes, that is What My Discharge Says In Reguard to Part[---]ates with Capt. Powell. Captain Was Present But did not Partipate he went in a Wagon Lot and laid Down and vomited all Day, he was Awful sick but he was not sick until the Indians [-]ampt us. Serentenent [-]eness was Present. But he Was a new man to that ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p029.jpg) Company. So I had it my own Way. But I mst say rite hear the Lieutenant Was as Brave a man as I ever saw. We Plased the men Inside the Could Which was Made out of Wagon Boxes Placed on the ground End to end With a bout one foot Betwe the inside Corner, the out side further a part, so they formed a round Corcl Perhaps 100 feet in[--]ll, then Was not lss than 80 of them Beds. We Plased the flat on the Ground so they Could ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p030.jpg) Shoot Out Between the Beds and Save Each 500 Cartriges and to[-] them not to shoot until thy was shur of them man, and Put it there then middle of the men Was from 2 to 3 Rods apart. When we plast the men We told them that We was Coming around and talk to them after the fite was on by the time We got the men Pla[-]t the fite was on in full force. We went round and talket to the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p031.jpg) Men and told them the only thing on Earth that Would save us was for Every man to do his Best All this time the Lieute[---]t hard kept Rite at My Rite Side We had been shooting turn a bout stopt shoot then loaded, as we Wakt. We had got Prety near around, then the Lieutenant Was shot three the heart, he fell Back on his Back his hans from the Elbows stood striate up, holding ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p032.jpg) Gun and Never Moved one of the Wagon Covers lay Prety Close I pickt it up and Covered him up this was Perhaps 30 minutes after the fite Comenced. The fite Comenced about 8 AM the Indians lef us 4,30 PM In regard to hoo was Ga[---] the Wood Party. There Was not another soldiers Except what Was at the fort E[--]pt on own the 2 Officers and 25 Enlisted men. The Wood Choppers When they heard the fiting they Went Back up in the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p033.jpg) Mountains and Staid ther until in the nite they went to the fort they got their at 11 oclock nite. they had Goverment Guns. there Was as many of them as ther Was of us. Charles Shafer of Serg[---] Served in the 6 Infanty. I have the Names of the 79 Soldiers that Was killed Dec 21, 1866 [-]t Phil karny, then in several other things that I mite tell. But this is Perhaps moore than you Can Reed. yours Truly. H M Hoover Sedgwick ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p034.jpg) ST. LOUIS, MO., Jan 17 1916 Mr. W. M. Camp. My dear Sir;— In regard to the back files of St. Louis news- papers, before 1860, we have the "Missouri Democrat"—years— 1855–57; 1858–59 – 1861. Also the "Missouri Republican" years— 1851–53, 54, 55–59; also 2 seperate copies— July 12, 1847; Feb. 8—1849. The mercantile Lib. here have earlier files— Yours Truly Ref. Dept. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p035.jpg) [Stamps] ST. LOUIS, MO. JAN 17 1—PM 1916 THIS SIDE OF CARD IS FOR ADDRESS ONLY U. S. POSTAL CARD 1 1 ONE CENT McKINLEY [Handwriting] Mr. W. M. Camp #7740 Union Ave., Chicago Illinois. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p036.jpg) LEAVENWORTH, KANSAS, January 25, 1916 191 Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir: On looking up our early Leavenworth papers in complaince with your request I find the oldest one we have is the Leavenworth Commer- cial for October 4, 1866. There are nine volumes of the Commercial extend- ing from this date to about 1872. Very truly yours, I. R. Bundy ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p037.jpg) J [-] Leavenworth ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p038.jpg) Feb. 14, 1916. Mr. John M. Hoover, Sedgwick, Kans. Dear Sir:-- I thank you for your letter of 13th last month giving me some of the particulars of the Wagon Bed fight with Indians, Aug. 2, 1867, under Capt. Powell, Company C, 27th U. S. Infantry. I am pleased to read that you are willing to tell me more about this fight, and hope to be going to Oklahoma before the end of this year, when I shall try to call and see you and have you tell me the whole thing, in detail, as well as your experiences in other fights that you took part in or know about out in that part of the country. I would like to know how far you live from the town of Sedgwick. I shall be glad to receive any further information that you might think important to tell me at this time, and, in this connection, I will ask you a few questions that occur to me. I shall be glad if you will give me the names of any enlisted men who took part in the fight at the Wagon Beds that you can recall. I un- derstand from your letter that there were two commissioned officers and 25 enlisted men present at the fight. The names of any of these will be appreciated, with their present address if you can give it. How many civilians were present, and can you remember the names of any of them? Was there a corporal in your company named Levi Webber or Webster, and was he present at the fight? Were any of the officers or men in swimming or bathing in the Little Piney just before the fight started? How many Indians do you think you killed, and how many of these fell into your hands, that the Indians were not able to carry away? Do you remember any landmarks with which to locate the site of the fight? I have been on that level stretch of ground near the mountains on which this battle was fought, about 5 miles west of Ft. Phil Kearny, but no one now living there seems to know just where the battle came off. That part of the country is now thickly settled with ranchers, being irrigated from both the Little and Big Piney creeks. (over) ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p039.jpg) About ¾ mile east of the mountains, on the level stretch of ground, there is a circular earthwork, 200 feet in diameter, the dirt being thrown up about 2½ feet high, as though it was made some time for a breastwork or place of defense, but I understand, from the magazine ar- ticles that have been written, that Powell and his men had no dirt thrown up to fight behind. I wonder if you have an idea as to what this fortification was used for? and was it there at the time of the Wagon Bed fight? and how far from the site of that fight? Thanking you for your kindness in replying to me I remain Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p040.jpg) He ardingrove So Dak March 8/16. Dear Sir WM Camp Mita kola I received your letter. And every thing you have said the letter we were glad to hear from you. And that Tin Box, and the Photo's the other things I received them A. K. And as you said about the Big fast survivors name you asked. They will send them in When they complete the lists of the survivors. And Mr Swift Dog is the one who is makeing the list of Them. So when he gets all the survivors on the list he will mail it to you and I will let you know some thing again. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p041.jpg) Of the survivors who after words in listed in the army as scouts. At Ft. Meade of them they were six (6) I remember or found out who they were, here are the list. He has Blue Arm 2 Hard to Kills. 3 James Axe. 4 Felix Crane Pretty Voice 5 Daniel Blue Hair. 6 Tasunke Eigala. They are out of the survivors who after the battle listed in the Army. How is it now about the survivors what are they figering to do. As long as I live. I will trace it up, about this matter ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p042.jpg) While they are living they would like to get something out of it. That is one of the things they. Dreadful happen to them, one reason is why they have kill the weak ones especially women and children, it is in side of the peace, so the Army has broken the rule, for that reason they are feeling bad, that is all I am going to say, I will tell you some thing. Amos charging First, wanted back 3 of the picture you have taken in a frame, I want you to write me in return of this letter. Nàtabols he mi ye. Daniel Blue Hair— ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p043.jpg) All the rest of my folks shake hands with you. from Solomon, Ellen, Mary Blue Hair Sarah and Leon Holy, n[-]pe i[-] y[-] [---] ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p044.jpg) ST. LOUIS, MO., Apr 5 1916 My dear Sir; In regard to early St. Louis newspapers— will say, we have on file the St. Louis daily morning herald "1852–53, 1855–6 Vol 1, 5–7 St. Louis beacon—V1–3 1829–31 "Missouri Republican—" from 1851–53–54, 55–59 etc., also the "Missouri Democra[-]" 1855–57— 1858–59— The Mercantile Library here may have The "Intelligences" and other earlier papers Yours Truly ARTHUR E. BOSTWICK, Librarian. Reference Dept— per a.s. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p045.jpg) [Stamps] ST. LOUIS, MO. APR 6 1—PM 1916 THIS SIDE OF CARD IS FOR ADDRESS ONLY U. S. POSTAL CARD 1 1 ONE CENT [Handwriting] Mr. W. M. Camp. 314 S. Federal St., Chicago Illinois. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p046.jpg) CHICAGO, April 24—1916 Mr W. M. Camp R. F. D No 1—Lake Village Ind. Dear Sir: I thank you kindly for you prompt letter giving a sketch of the Indian pictures as we were anxious to get this in this issue of the Club notes. I know that this will all very materially to the interest in your pictures which have already been the subject of much favorable comment. Hope you are enjoying your outing even though the business of garden making does not appeal to me as one of an easy vacation character. Trust we will again see you at the noon day luncheon when you return Yours very truly Wa[---] H. Evans. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p047.jpg) Sheridan, Wyo., July 15, 1916. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Dear Mr. Camp: I have sent copies of the 25 and 26 issues of the Enterprise to you, under separate cover. The 24th supply was exhausted. I am enclosing a clipping from the Sheridan Post, anent to our trip; it was written by Mr. Hoge, from an interview with Mr. Thompson. Many of our friends seem greatly interested in our trip, and has been a pleasure to talk of it. I appreciate personally, as I intimated to you, our meeting, and the opportunity afforded in friendly relationship, during the trip. I trust that you will have many more opportunities for coming to Wyoming, I shall look forward to meeting you again with much pleasure. With kindest regards from the Thompson's and myself, I am, Sincerely yours, Frea W. Decker ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p048.jpg) August 17, 1916 Please refer to file: 143 B Mr. W. M. Camp, Sheridan Inn, Sheridan, Wyo. Dear Sir:- I have your letter of the 14th, returning your one way ticket which you purchased from Chicago to Billings and your check for $5.12, and in exchange for them I beg to hand you herewith the return portion of our ticket form 886, No. R 4830, reading from Sheri- dan, Wyo., to Chicago, Ill. via Kansas City, you having purchased ticket form 3, No. 327 to Billings due to misinformation given you at our Chicago City Office. It is needless to say that I am very sorry that you were misinformed and that you suffered any inconvenience due to error of our ticket seller, and I will investigate the matter at once, and advise you the result of my investigation. Yours truly, M. [-]ustis jwc Passenger Traffic Manager ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p049.jpg) Reading Sept.—18—16 Mr. W. M. Camp New York Dear sir recieved your letter in regards to my Father was record he was a member of Company C. 27th U. S. Infantry in 1866–67 while he is not living with me at Present I can arrange to have him at my home on Saturday afternoon Sept 23rd or Sunday afternoon Sept 24th if that is suitable to you Please let me know as Early as Possible so I can make arrangements suitable for both of you Respectfully Mrs Charles Hoyer Daughter of John Buzzard 524 Garden st. Reading Pn. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p050.jpg) Sept. 20th, 1916. Mr. Wm. Camp, Chicago Ill. Dear Mr. Camp, I received photographs and am enclosing two prints of you on tripod. Many thanks for the ones you sent. I have bill for horse rent on your last trip which has not been settled also hotel bill on first trip, and blacksmith presented me with bill for shoeing fire head horses on this last trip. Dont hardly think this lines up very well for me so in case you think the same let me know. Everything going fine here, excellent crop ready to thresh, and getting outfit in shape for the big hunting trips for this fall. Best regards and good luck, Sincerely, J. R. Boyd. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p051.jpg) Exeter Maine Ap 20, 1916 W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave Chicago Ill. My dear Mr Camp, Your favor duly rced. here. Have been quite Ill, unable to attend to any Correspondence o[-] Busi[---] h[---] delay in [---]ply[---]g. When I Enlisted in New York Mch 16, 1866 was assigned to 18th U. S. Infty. Hd. qrtrs of S[---] at old Fort ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p052.jpg) Kearney Neb.— The Eighteenth then Composed of three 3 ba[---] that was later. Made into three 3 Regiments 1st But made 18th U. S. Infty 2nd 27th " 3rd 36 " Our batch of [---] <800> assigned to 2nd Dat. Consequently I became a member 1 of 27th U. S. Infty. Col. Commanding the 18th Henny. B. Cauvington assigned to Command 27th from Old Ft. [---] we proceeded across plains to open up the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p053.jpg) shorter route to Bozeman City Montana. Our Camp NW from Ft Laramie, to [-]ld Ft Reno, on Powder River that we re-built thence [---] to Establish Ft. Phil Kenny on big Piney River. Have [---] a. B. C. & E. remaining there at Hd. qrts. balance Command proceeded West to Big Horn River where H. C. F Smi[-]th was Established Original plan was to Establish a 3d Post on YellowStone but Indians [-]rong troublesome and we lack so /227 at Ft Reno July 4, 1866 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p054.jpg) many mules by Indians Stampeding there am Yellow Stone Train or outfit— disabled We soon found our hands full to build and defend the [---] <2> posts, Ft Phil. and C. F. Smith A tremendous lot to all of this thats now History I can scarcely realize that a Country so wild and— uncivilized can [---] <1916> be a prosperous Agricultu[-]e and stock growing [---]. In 1866 August ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p055.jpg) # Didnot Know of— Contemplated Celebration at Ft. Phil K. Should you learn more about [-] please advise me. # I was discharged 1st Sergt C" "A" Expiration team of service. Was in 2nd party [---] to Col. Fetterman 21st Dec <1866> Massacre Mounted Guard on morning Dec 20, as would probably have been one of Fetterman Party and Not live now Col. Fetterman was our C. Commander went to Cos. Quarters and took Enemy available man [---]bly Co. A ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p056.jpg) I was on Escort duty Ft. Phil K[---] to Sw[---] and saw in [---] River Valley what was Estimaded to be 20,000. Hea[-] of Buffalo, and Candles by the hundreds of Thousands, where I am told 4,000 000 sheep now froze Th[--]and then had 20,000, strong warriors &c he Claimed at Laramie am and later at Meeting Col. Corrington [---] 06 or thereabouts. If could [---] per[---] think Could say, so much more of interval ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p057.jpg) than can write. Shall go west Causing [---] if health permits Very poor and [---] [---] now I much prefer going there than any other place on Earth. What is a great wonder to me is that any of us ever lived to return. hard ships and Casualt[-]s w[---]ers [-]E Sincerely TS Prescott ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p058.jpg) lost in men Nov. Cows, and Privates, more than any other C. Col. Fetterman 1st Sergt Lang 1st duty Sergt Date 2. [---] 23 Men. Privates Total 27. I was [---] [---] on guard Mounting morning Dec 20, Martin Kelley's G[---] was dirty Adjutant Ast. [-]owan would not parr Kelley I took his place Kelley was Killed his dirty Gun Belts &c Saved me. Cosecall ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p059.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Oct. 3, 1916. Mr. Johnston R. Boyd, Wyola, Mont. Dear Mr. Boyd:-- I have received your letter of Sept. 20, having just re- turned home yesterday, after an absense of two weeks, which accounts for my delay in replying. I thank you for the views taken at the Medicine Wheel and other places which you enclosed in your letter. These are interesting to me particularly, as I appear in three of the four views. I must confess that I am rather surprised to learn that the bills fo for horse hire, blacksmithing, etc., connected with our last trip into the Bighorns have not yet been paid, as I had a share in all of the expense and settled with Mr. Thompson; and have a statement from him as to the expenses distributed to each member of the party and acknowledg- ing receipt of the money I paid him. I gave Mr. Thompson $20 before starting out on the trip, and some more after the termination of it. He sent me a statement itemizing my share of the expense for horse hire, blacksmithing, provisions and other things, crediting me with money paid him, and amount of refund due me, as I had overpaid. I hardly know what to say about the matter at this time, but you may rest assured that I am not a man who has ever been accused of leaving unpaid bills behind me. Please let me know if you have seen Mr. Thompson, and what he has said about the payment of these bills. I do not feel at all right about the matter. Have you asked him to settle? As for the hotel bill of mine on our first trip, will you please [-] send me the bill, if it has been presented to you; or give me the name of the landlady or of the Hotel. I will pay it, of course, and am chagrined over the fact that it has not been paid. I was about to settle for this, when Mr. Thompson told me it had been taken care of by himself. I theref- fore supposed he had paid it. Seeing that these matters stand as they do I thank you for calling my attention to them. I am at loss to under- stand the situation. The expenses of the trip were distributed among Shepherd, the two girls and myself--four of us. How about the bills of the other three? Have they been paid? I will send you a marked copy of our issue of Sept. 30, giving my story of the power scheme for the Bighorn canyon. Please let me hear fr from you fully. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p060.jpg) <[Bird Grinnell]> 238 East 15th Street, New York, October 3d, 1916. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. Dear Mr. Camp: We were talking only the other night about the Indians killed in the battle of the Washita, and I remembered a footnote in "The Fighting Cheyennes" on the subject, but could not then look it up. I see now that it says that four men who in 1869 talked with General Grierson, at Camp Wichita, stated that the Cheyenne loss was 13 men, 16 women, and 9 children. Hazen says that the Arapahoes had 2 men killed, and the Comanches 1. I find in a letter from George Bent, written two or three years ago, the names of 14 men killed in that fight, of which 2 are Arapahoes. This same letter says that there were 12 women and 5 children. I think another letter says 6 girls and boys. Bent gives the names of the men as Black Kettle, Little Rock, Bear Tongue, Bad Man, Tall Bear, Blind Bear, White Bear, Crazy, Blue Horse, Little Heart, Lame Arapaho, Tobacco, Red Bird, Red Teeth. The last two he says were Arapahoes. White Bear was a Mexican captive, purchased by William Bent. The women killed were 10 Cheyennes and two Sioux, and five girls and boys. This agrees pretty well with the footnote on page 289 of "The Fighting Cheyennes". The men talking with Gen. Grierson might perhaps have included people who were wounded, and died later, while Bent's letter may refer simply to people killed on the battleground. At all events, I thought the note would interest you, and it is worth keeping for comparison with other information that you may have. Yours sincerely, Gro. Bird Grinnell ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p061.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Nov. 1, 1916. Mr. George Bent, Colony, Okla. Dear Friend:-- I visited your brother-in-law, Ed. Guerrier, and staid over night with him. He treated me courteously and gave me a good account of Gen. Hancock's burning of the Cheyenne village and the events leading up to it. I also met there your sister Julia, Mr. Guerrier's wife, and am very glad that you suggested that I should visit there, as I got a good deal of interesting information. In St. Loius I had good success in finding out about the Carr family that you told me about. Robert S. Carr, your cousin, is still living, and I had a talk with him. He is 75 years old, and lives at 456 North Newstead Ave., He told me that his brother Bent Carr died about 8 years ago, and his other brother Dabney Carr died about 7 years ago. His sister Eugenia, who is now 68 years old, is the widow of A. K. Phillips, and lives in Portland Oregon, with her son Silas Bent Phillips. She has also a daughter living with her there, and a son in Chicago whose name is Augustus K. Phillips. The children of Silas Bent are all dead except his daughter Lucy, whose married name is Mrs. Mc Kinley. She lives at 32 Vandeventer Place in St. Louis, but was out of the city on the day I was there. Mr. Carr told me that Silas Bent was a very famous officer in the navy. I recall that you told me he was in the navy, but Mr. told me something of his ser- vice. Mr. Carr was quite glad to see me and to hear about you. He said he had heard that you had died some years ago, and was surprised to learn that you were still living. He asked me about your sister Mary, but he could not remember her married name. I wish you would give me the married name of your sister Mary and where she lived. Mr. Carr said they lived somewhere near Kansas City, and that the family was quite prominent. He referred particularly to one of Mary's daughters, and said she was a very intelligent woman. Can you give me the name of this daughter? and where does she live? Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p062.jpg) [Written at the top of the page] Bent Family Kiowar and Crows Colony Oklahoma Nov 4th 1917 1916 W.M. Camp My Dear Friend I received your welcome letter yesterday and was awful glad to hear of you and to hear you had good deal to do for me to find some of my relatives in St Louis never seen any of my whole relatives. S[---] the war. I knew of all these Robert Carr speaks of Except Silas Beaats Children. I do not remember them My sister Mary was married to Judge R.M. Moore of L[-]s [---] Colo.. Mary died 39 years ago Judge R.M. Moore died 34 years ago. Leth died at mouth of Las Ame[---]s River or my father's Old broding Ranch. Then Oldest do[---] Ada. M. Leebers lives there now. This the one that Robert Carr speaks of. They have two three other daughters. All are married. Nellie Agnes and Daisy. Two boys are dead. Bert Morre and [-]ong Moure only the [---] girls are now l[---]g just after you left Colony. For fa[---]s of Kiowas. [-]ore into near the school. I had talk with them that evening. About the Crows and ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p063.jpg) 2 Kiowas. They told me that Old Kiowas always [---]. That Crows and Kiowas lived together up North and they said several Crow families were now living among the Kiowas and several Kiowa families were among the Crows now of course as you Knew. These both Tribes are mixed bleed. They can not for full Bloods by these time. I wish you could have seen them and heard them. Your say of one of these talk good English. some time When you are up North again you see into this Mother among the Crows you will find Kiowas among them Northern Cheyenne tell me also the same. I will be glad to hear from you any time and will be glad to tell you any thing about the Indians Yours Truly George Bent ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p064.jpg) W. M. Camp Author HISTORY of the Indian Wars 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Nov. 22, 1916. Mr. W. A. Falconer 202 Avenue E Bismarck, N. Dak. Dear Mr. Falconer:- Your letter of Aug. 21 was received at my home while I was with a party exploring the Bighorn Canyon, in Mont, and Wyo., on a second trip that I made out that way this past season. Since my return, on Sept.2, I have attended railroad conventions (my work, as you know, being editor of the Railway Review) in New York, New Orleans and Milwaukee, and in addition have made a trip to Oklahoma. I have not until now tackled my pile of personal correspondence, which is a large one. I regret not having been able to answer you sooner. Gen. Godfrey and I made the trip over the Custer trail of 1876, from the Yellowstone to the Little Bighorn. We had a good deal of difficulty from floods, which a 4-days' rain brought down, carrying out bridges, etc. We had to make a detour of 16 miles into the hills to get around one bridge carried away on a tributary of the Rosebud. How- ever, we got over the trail, and Gen. Godfrey made an address at the celebration, which was attended by about 5000 people, including some 800 Cheyennes & Crows. Only three survivors of Reno's fight were there - two enlisted men besides Gen. Godfrey. In reply to your inquiry, I do not know of anything new relating to the battle that was brought out by the anniversary. You might tell Sergt. Flanagan that one of the enlisted men present was a fellow named Shaner, of K Company, 1876, which was the company to which Flanagan belonged. Mrs. Custer's address is Elizabeth B. Custer, Bronxville, N. Y. This is her permanent address. Bronxville is a suburb of N. Y. City. A movement is now on foot by Montana people, to mark the Custer trail and the sites of Reno's two battles on the Little Bighorn. Some time ago I wrote an article on the"Marking of Historic Sites" and gave it to the Tepee Book. I think it will be published in the November issue. Yours truly (Signed) W. M. Camp. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p065.jpg) [written sideways on the tope left of the page] answered 12/2 Smithland Iowa, Nov, 28 16 Woodbury Co. W M Camp—Dear Sir Postmaster C.A. Smith gave me your letter last night which I told him a would answer today. John C f[---]ess was my brother & I am glad to give you any information I can regarding him. Mother died almost forty years ago here in Smithland. I could send you a magazine telling all the details of the fight; just as it was. I wait to hear from you. Mrs. Carrie F[---] Foster ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p066.jpg) Walter Camp Field Notes Folder #60. BYU Library Smithland Iowa, Nov 28, 16 Woodbury Co. W.M. Camp Dear Sir, Postmaster C.A. Smith gave me your letter last night, which I told him I would answer today. John C. Jenness was my brother and I am glad to give you any information I can regarding him. Mother died almost forty years ago here in Smithland. I could send you a magazine telling all the details of the fight - just as it was. I wait to hear from you. Mrs. Carrie (Jenness) Foster ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p067.jpg) GEO BENT Indian Killed at Washita Colony Oklahoma Dec 4th 1916 W. M. Camp My Dear Mr Camp I have just got the list of the Indians killed on Washita River in 1868. I got these names from Packer Cheyenne Indians who was with Little Rock when he was killed. They were walking for the hill when Little Rock was killed. When he fell. Packer picked some of his arrows. [---] says there now three in the party. Little Rock, Packer. and Kiowa Indian that stopped in Black Kettle's Village on his way home. He was returning from war party that had been out west hunting Utes. Who they were at war with that time. Standing Out or Seen Bear, Cheyennes believe he was the one that killed Capt. Hamilton as Seen Bears was Killed near when Hamilton fell, and Seen Bear had Rifle in his hand when last seen, by Bear Feathers now dead he was standing in front of his Tent or Ledge When troops now chargeing into the village Tobacco Arapelo Indian I have in the List [---] right in among Maj Elliott's men and ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p068.jpg) fell among them. he was shot in Head as he was stooping down to Street Solider to C[---] Coup on heir. Black Kettle Chief Little Rock Sab Chief Bitter Man Foul Man Standing Out or Seen Bear Pilaw (Mexican) Red Bird son of Chief Whirlwind Blue Horse Bear Tongue Sharp Belly Tall Bear Tobacco Arapaho La[--] Man This was all of the men killed. Red Bird son of Whirlw[---] was the one that Officer <(Probably Barinty)> shot he was shot through the Hand and in breast. Yours Truly George Bent I will be glad to hear from you any time <[---]> ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p069.jpg) Dec. 12—1916.— Mr W. M. Camp Chicago Ill. Dear Sir—I regret very much that I have been obliged to delay my answer so many days. I had given the magazine to my granddaughter & had to write her to send it. Rec'd. it today. I will send photograph. It is not a good likeness but it the best I can do. He was born in Newport Vermont. Attended school there as a boy, later at Charleston Vt. He was not married I am not afraid to trust you with the photo. I also inclose one of Gen. Custer who was a friend of his. I suppose you have one. You need not return Curties, I send you everything I have ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p070.jpg) concerning my brother think you will find it sufficient. Please return magazine as I promised to return it to my granddaughter She is anxious to keep it & the clippings I send also. If you are not ready to return them soon please keep them till often the Xmas rust so merry things are lost. We shall want to buy one of your historys when they are published. Almost too ill to write but think you can read it. Very sincerely, Mrs. Carrie M. Foster Smithland, Woodbury Co, Iowa. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F24_B2_F2_p071.jpg) BYU-310 Dec. 12, 1916 Mr. W. M. Camp Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir, I regret very much that I have been obliged to delay my answer so many days. I had given the magazine to my granddaughter and had to write her to send it. Rec'd it today. I will send photograph. It is not a good likeness but is the best I can do. He was born in Newport, Vermont. Attended school there as a boy, later at Charleston, Vt. He was not married. I am not afraid to trust you with the photo. I also inclose one of Gen. Custer who was a friend of his. I suppose you have one. You need not return Custer's. I send you every- thing I have concerning my brother, think you will find it sufficient. Please return magazine as I promised to return it to my granddaughter. She is anxious to keep it and the clippings I send also. If you are not ready to return them soon please keep them till after Xmas rush, so many things are lost. We shall want to buy one of your historys when they are published. Almost too ill to write but think you can read it. Very sincerely, Mrs. Carrie M. Foster Smithland, Woodbury Co, Iowa ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p001.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Feb.19,1917. Mr. A.E. Sheldon, Director Neb. Legislative Reference Bureau; Lincoln, Nebr. Dear Sir:-- On page 152 of your book "History and Stories of Nebraska" I find a photographic reproduction entitled "Ruins of Old Red Cloud Agency, 1911". Having been around Crawford and Ft. Robinson a great deal during the past ten years, I am wondering just where you found these ruins. Are they of sod or of adobe? And how far are they from the post? I am familiar with all of the ground between Crawford and the post, and so think you can easily describe to me the location of the ruins. Thanking you for any information that you will give me in regard to this matter, I am Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p002.jpg) April 8, 1916. Mr. L. F. Meisaner, Jr., Secy., P.S.C.Alimni in Chicago, 2025 Michigan Ave., Chicago. Dear Meisaner: -- I have received your letter of the 6th inst enclosing correspondence from Secretary Ray Smith and from W.B.Jackson , in refer- ence to the "Booster Campaign" that is being made to educate the peo- ple of Pennsylvania concerning the advantages to be had at their State College. If it were possible to raise a respectable amount, say someting like $100, I would, like Jackson, be willing to contribute $500 toward the fund. I have no time to give to the matter right now, as I expect to be out of the city all of the month after about the 10t inst. My only suggestion is that it might be well to canvass the situa- tion a little, writing to some of the boys or calling them up by tele- phone to see what they feel like giving. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p003.jpg) Objects: To gather and compile the history of achievements in agriculture in the territory and state of Nebrasha. To preserve and exhibit the records of these achievements and the portraits of the men and womens who achieved them, in permanent hall. Nebrask Hall of Agricultural Achievement (Organized January 19, 1916) Secretary's office, 306 University Hall telephone B-1423 LINCOLN President, S. C. BASSETT, Gibson Vice-President, G. W. HERVEY, Omaha Treasurer, A. J. BROWN, Geneva Feb. 24,1917. Mr. W.M.Camp, 7740 Union Ave. Chicago,Ill. Dear Sir: I am glad to receive your note regarding my book and the picture entitled "Ruins of Old Red Cloud Agency of 1911." The particular ruin covered by that picture is at the old Red Cloud agency in the valley of the North Platte, about one-half a mile west of the Nebraska-Wyoming line. There is now a strong doubt in my mind that this old sod building was ever used in connection with Red Cloud agency. It rather belongs to the period of the first ranch on the site of old Red Cloud agency. I am quite familiar with the new Red Cloud agency site between Fort Robinson and Crawford, having lived eight years in Dawes county. I was upon this latter site last July and took photographs and motion film there. All there is to that site is the cellar holes in the ground. I should be glad to have a statement from you of the years and experiences you had while in the northwest country. Very sincerely, A.[-]. Sheldon Secretary ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p004.jpg) March 1917 Mr. W. W. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir: Replying to your card in regard to Wyoming map, we are enclosing a card listing the series including this state. You would find any of theseto be up to date and reliable. We shall be very glad to forward any that you may select post- aid on receipt of price. Very truly yours The CLASON MAP COMPANY [The following written along the left margin] Ariz. Cal. Col. Idaho Illinois Ind Iowa Kans Minn Mo. Mont. Nebr. Nev N. Mex N. [---] Ohio Oregon S. [---] Tex [---] Wash Wyo. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p005.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., March 12, 1917. Mr. A.E.Sheldon Secy., Neb. Hall of Agricultural Achievement, 306 University Hall, Lincoln, Nebr. Dear Sir:-- I have received your letter of Feb. 24, and but for absence from home would have replied sooner. I thank you for the information rel- ative to the photograph of the ruins of old Red Cloud Agency in your historical work, and understand that it does not refer to the site of the old agency that was located half way between Crawford and Ft. Robinson. I was not before aware that the agency located east of Ft. Laramie a few miles, during the early 70's, was known as the "Red Cloud" agency. In your letter you invite me to state my experiences in the north- west country. I am pleased to tell you that I have been making historic- al studies of the western frontier, and particularly the Indian wars, for the past 15 years, I have not been to Ft. Laramie yet, but have been nearly everywhere else that is historic ground, and, of course, have Ft. Laramie "on my slate". I have interviewed a good many army officers in past years, as well as old settlers and Indians. I may call on you , in Lincoln, some time, possibly this year , while going through there. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p006.jpg) CHICAGO, BURLINGTON & QUINCY RAILROAD COMPANY Passenger Deparment Chicago, Ill., March 20, 1917. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Illinois. Dear Sir: In reply to your postal inquiry of the 19th inst., addressed to our General Baggage Agent. Wish to advise that the excess baggage rate per cwt. from Chicago to Sheridan, Wyo., is $5.25. Yours truly, HAD-N J Francis D General Passenger Agent ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p007.jpg) Indian Wars April 30, 1917. Col. S.M. Horton, 156 washington Ave., Albany, N.Y. Dear Sir:-- I am writing a history of the Indian wars of the West, and only recently was told that you were serving at Ft. Phil Kearny in 1867. I have visited the site of the old fort, and expect to go there again some time, it being a purpose of mine to locate historic landmarks in that vicinity. At the site where Capt. Fetterman was killed there is now a monument, but no other points connected with the fighting of those days have been marked. On Aug.1,1867, Capt. Powell had a hard fight some four or five miles west of the fort that has been called "The Wagon Box" fight, as wagon boxes were used for a defense barricade. If you ever saw the location of these could you say whether Powell's corral was near either of the forks of the Piney ? and which one? The north fork is now called the Big Piney and the south fork the Little Piney. Do you also recall whether or not there were any civilians with Capt. Powell in this fight? About two weeks before Capt. Fetterman was killed in Lieut. Bingham, of the 2nd Cavalry, was killed by being in some way cut off from his men by Indians. If you know where this happened could you, [illegible–word smudged] a general way, describe the location of it with reference to the site of the Fet- terman fight? I will thank you for any information that you may be pleased to [illegible deletion] give me in reference to these matters. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p008.jpg) [Handwritten sideways in the left margin] Enclosed with S.B. Weston's Letter of 5/30/17 [Column 1] Obituary Monday night, May 14th, death invaded the home of Louis Bor- deaux and carried him into the region of the Great Unknown. In his demise the grim reaper has removed another prominent and conspicuous figure who was a typical representative of the early west. Born near Fort Laramie, Wyo ming, October 1st, 1848. His parents being James Bordeaux, who was born in St. Charles, Mo., and Hontka Lutawin (Red Bird), a Sioux woman. His boyhood days were spent in and around the military posts of Wyoming, for these were turbulent days. When the Sioux Indians were moved to Whetsone, at a point where the town of Wheeler, S. D., now stands, he accompanied them in the capacity of interpreter. He was there but a short time when he was called upon to perform the duties pertaining to the office of Sheriff, of Charles Mix County. When the term of office expired he was called to Spotted Tail Agency and while there he was married in October, 1876, to Julia Dubray, who survives him. In 1878 the Sioux Indians were again moved, this time to the pres- ent Rosebud Agency, he again acting in the capacity of interpre- ter to the army officer who had charge of the arrangements for the removal of the Indians. His life, and the events connect- ed with it, would read more like a romance than any other figure in the early, chaotic, turbulent times of western frontier history. He was the personal aid and in- terpreter to Lieut. Jesse Lee (now Gen. Lee, retired) at the time of the surrender of the great war chief, Crazy Horse. He also act- ed as official interpreter for the Commissioners sent out by the government for the ratification of the treaty in 1898 when the In- dians ceded to the government what is now Tripp and Gregory Counties, S. D. It was mainly through the wonderful influence that he exercised over the Indians. at that time, that this treaty was successfully ratified. He was an earnest and ardent advocate at all times for the Indi- [Column 2] ans. He was an encyclopedia of information relative to the Indians of the Sioux Nation and their treaty rights. In his death the Indians have lost, by procrastina- tion, an important witness in the violation, by the government, of the treaty of 1868. relating to the Black Hills claim. By reason of the vast knowledge of internal affairs of these Indians, he was, with few exceptions, se- lected as a delegate to represent them before the Commisioner of Indian Affairs on the more than exceptional and important mat- ters. affecting the tribe as a whole, and in such transactions he was very successful. He know the Indian thoroughly, their habits and wants, and his personal influ- ence was much sought by the high officials in the Indian bureau. During the time of the Messiah craze among the Sioux Indians, which culminated in the Wounded Knee battle on Pine Ridge reser- vation in the winter of 1891, and at a time when all the Indians of the Sioux nation were imbued with the hallucination of the sec- ond coming of our Savior, it was his wise council and persuasive reasoning that prevented many of the Indians on Rosebud reserva- tion from participating in that brief but bloody fight. During the span of his life his name and the history of South Da- kota will remain inseparable. During his young manhood he embraced the Catholic faith and up to the time of his death he was a steadfast adherent and a regular communicant in that faith. On Wednesday, May 16, at two o'clock, he was, after a brief but eloquent sermon by Rev. Father P. F. Digman, former Superior of St. Francis Mission, layed to rest in the beautiful cemetery at St. Francis, S D. Surviving him is the widow, Mrs. Lulu Waln, Mrs. Sewell B. Weston, daughters; Al- fred. Louis, Jr., and William, sons, all of whom were at his bed- side during his final hours of life. Don't throw away your old tires Halfsole them with "Durable Treads." Guaranteed for 5.000 miles without a puncture.— A. F. Ayers, Agent. adv. 40tf ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p009.jpg) [The top corner is cut making the first few lines unreadable] [Column 1] [---] Germans, $26,000,- 000 for army machine guns and $35,- 000,000 for heavy army ordnance. For the new American merchant fleet they directed immediate appro- priation of $400,000,000 and author- ized $350,000,000 more for use later as an "emergency shipping fund." The bill authorizes the government to commandeer shipyards, factories or the products of such factories and to take over existing shipbuilding con- tracts of private individuals or for- eign governments. Construction fa- cilities taken over are to be paid for at a reasonable price. Persons refus- ing to deliver requisitioned factories or establishments would be penalized. KAISER BLOCKS PEACE TERMS On Hindenburg's Advice Ruler Turns Down Chancellor's Pro- posal. The Hague, May 19.—The kaiser and Field Marshal von Hindenburg were responsible for the refusal of the German chancellor to announce peace terms in the reichstag this week, according to advices received here from Berlin. It was reported in these dispatches that the chancellor, Doctor von Beth- mann-Hollweg, had gone so far as to draw up a peace offer, suitable to both Germany and Austria-Hungary, but when he took it to German Great Headquarters for the affirmation of the kaiser, it was rejected at a mili- tary council. There is a growing belief in some circles in Germany that the confer- ences going on between the German chancellor and Count Czernin, the for- eign minister of Austria, may lead to a pease proposition in the reichstag when it reconvenes in July. AFFIRMS RETROACTIVE TAX House Votes to Retain Section Provid- ing for Levy on 1916 Incomes. [Page is cut along the left side from here down] Washington, May 19.—The house [v]oted 123 to 54 to retain in the war [r]evenue bill the section providing for a retroactive levy on incomes for the [y]ear 1916. This section provides that [i]n addition to the tax already paid on [1]916 incomes the taxpayer shall pay [b]y September 16 next an additional [t]ax of one-third of the amount already [p]aid. Gardner Assigned to Duty. Washington, May 19.—Col. Augustus [P]. Gardner, adjutant general's reserve [c]orps, who resigned his seat in con- [g]ress as representative from Massa- [c]hussetts to join the colors, has been [a]ssigned to active duty at Governor's [I]sland, N. Y. Tropps Forced to Take Bonds. Amsterdam, May 21.—In the course [o]f the budget debate in the reichstag, Deputy Vogthern, socialist, said sol- [d]iers in the field had been forced to subscribe to the German war loan last week. "Slide for Life" Proves Fatal. Des Moines, Ia., May 21.—Leroy Brammer, twenty years old, died at a [h]ospital here with a broken back suf- [f]ered at Dexter, Ia., when he did a ["]slide for life" with a carnival com- [p]any [Column 2] [Top line unreadable] badly damaged. "During her passage back the Dart- mouth was struck by a torpedo from an enemy submarine, but returned into port with three men killed, one officer and four men missing and be- lieved dead, and seven wounded. There were no other casualties to our ships." Vienna, May 21.—A British cruiser was sunk during an engagement with English, French and Italian vessels after an Austrian naval detachment had made a successful raid in the Strait of Otranto, on the southern coast of Italy, accoring to an official announcement made by the admiralty. Italian destroyers, three merchant- men and twenty armed guard vessels, the statement adds, "became victims" of the Austrian raid. AMPLE GRAIN SUPPLY IN U.S. Members of Exchanges Declare Ab- normal Conditions of Today Call for Food Control Body. Washington, May 21.—After a con- ference on Friday between Herbert C. Hoover and a special committee of the council of grain exchanges and a committee from the western grain ex- change the following statement was issued on behalf of the committees: "The conclusion was reached by the representatives of the grain trade that the abnormal conditions existing today as regards the necessity for conserva- tion of the food supply of this country called for the creation of a food ad- ministration clothed with the neces- sary powers to work out the unusual problem resulting from the world war and that the existence of such food administration should be limited to the duration of the war. "The representatives of the grain trade are convinced that with elimina- tion of waste and proper conservation in this country an ample supply of grain will be avaliable for domestic consumption as well as to provide for the requirements of our allies, and that the problem therefore is one of administration." PLAN DRAFT IN CANADA Compulsory Military Service to Raise Army of 100,000 Men Proposed by Premier. Ottawa, Ont., May 21.—Compulsory military service on a selective basis to raise immediately at least 50,000 and probably 100,000 men to make good the wastage in the Canadian army corps in France was proposed to par- liament on Friday by Sir Robert Bor- den, the premier, who returned from England last Tuesday. Three French Ships Sunk in Week. Paris, May 21.—Only three French merchantment were sunk by subma- rines in the week ended May 13, ac- cording to official announcement. Dur- ing that period 952 vessels entered French ports and 991 departed. John Nevil Maskelyne Dies. London, May 21.—John Nevil Maske- lyne, London's famous conjurer, died in London. Mr. Maskelyne was sev- enty-eight years old and for nearly fifty years had been almost an English institution. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p010.jpg) INDIAN WARS Apr. 29, 1917. Mr. Edward Halloran, 67 Perry St., Central Falls, R.I. Dear Sir:-- I thank you for your letter of 23rd inst giving me the name of Brambier as another who was in the Hayfield fight; also the address of John Dunn, who was in D Company at the time of the fight. I expect to be going east in September, and will try to get to call on you at that time. If I do I will call also on Mr. Dunn at the same time. You will have no trouble in getting a pension. The law passed by congress last year makes all veterans of the Indian campaigns eligi- ble to pensions, and thousands of these men are now being put on the rolls of the pension department, including Indians who were enlisted as scouts for the government. With best wishes, I remain Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p011.jpg) Brandon, Colo. June-13-1917 Dear Camp:- I could answer your question today but I shall wait until I can be absolutely positive on every thing. The battle was faught in a clump of trees up the river- Sand Creek- about 9 miles NW of Brandon. More later. Sincerely R. T. Cline. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p012.jpg) [stamp at the top with the following text] BRANDON. JUN 1[-] 1917 COLO. [stamp in the upper right corner with the following text and the profile of Thomas Jefferson] U. S. POSTAGE ONE CENT 1 1 THIS SIDE OF CARD IS FOR ADDRESS Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave. Chicago, Ill. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p013.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., July 13, 1917. Mr. Joseph Horncloud, Kyle, S.Dak. Mitakola:-- I am sending you under separate cover a copy of the photograph that I took of you, Calico, Henry Standing Bear and the other Pine Ridge delegate at Fort Thompson. If you will send me the address of Henry Standing Bear I will send him a copy of the photograph. I have forgotten the name of the other del- egate. Will you kindly give me his name and address? I will try to have a copy made of the likeness of Louis Shangrau from the group picture that you saw and bring it out to Pine Ridge when I come out there next month. I expect to visit Kyle some time before the 10th of August, and will be pleased to see you then . I regret that I did not have time to stay at Ft. Thompson and see the Blach Hills council through. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p014.jpg) White Bird. Idaho. Jan 21, 1918. Mr W. M. Camp, Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir:- My Father who is very low at this date. Requisted me to write this letter to you. in answer to your letter of Aug 7" 1915. Now Father tells me to state to you this fact. As he had told you first. [---] at the time you were here. That in the white Bird battle with the Nez Perce Indians in 1877. that there were 13 citizens. 11 with guns and 2 with out guns making the 13. And he gave you the names of 12. The correction is this. there were 9 with guns. And 2 with guns. making 11 men in all. After investigating this He finds that Asa Jones was not in this bunch of men. He had started but had went back. Therefore the list of names are correct as you have the with the exception of Asa Jones. I trust I have made this clear for Father. Some two months ago. He going to ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p015.jpg) white Bird. He had this [---] to have his team start to run. they threw him in a deep ditch just where the road crosses over a ditch just below that Indian grave yard that you mention in your letter. He has never recovered, but has grown weaker every day. until him self and we all think his days are drawing to a close very fast. I am going to ask Father if he feels able to pen a word on the bottom of this letter. Trusting that I have made this clear to you. I am Yours very truly L. J. Swarts T D Suarts ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p016.jpg) (Copy) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Oct. 29, 1917 Librarian, State Historical Library, Helena, Mont. Dear Sir:-- On Aug. 24, 1917 Mr. M. L. Wilson and I set a marker on the di- vide between the Rosebud and the Little Bighorn, at the point where Gen. Custer and the 7th U. S. Cavalry crossed this divide on June 25, 1876. The place is at the head of the Middle fork of Reno Creek and but a few hund- red feet from Davis Creek, the former flowing into the Little Bighorn and the latter into the Rosebud. The marker consists of a circular brass plate or tablet 8 inches in diameter, riveted to a square plate of cast iron 1 inch thick, the latter being anchored by four bolts into a concrete pillar 12 inches square, set 3 feet in the ground and projecting a foot above ground. The tablet lies horizontal and forms the top of the pillar. The stamped inscription on the tablet reads as follows: "General George A. Custer and the 7th U.S. Cavalry Crossed the Divide at This Point, June 25, 1876". As the site where this marker was placed was selected I was requested by Mr. Wilson to give you a statement as to the source of my information which enabled me to identify the spot, in order that the same may be placed on record; and in order, also, that there may be a record as to who placed the marker. Mr. Wilson informed me, at the time of placing the marker, that he was acting as the representative of the State Historical Library. I am, therefore, pleased to inform you that the point where Gen. Custer crossed the divide between the Rosebud and the Little Bighorn rivers, at which the marker referred to now stands, was first shown to me by Crow Indian Curly, on August 4, 1909. We approached it following the trail from the Little Bighorn. During the next year George Herendeen and I made a trip over the Custer trail from the Yellowstone to the Little Bighorn, passing the divide in question on July 27, 1910; and the point designated by Herendeen as the place where Custer's command crossed this divide was the same as that shown me by Curly the year previously. Since both Curly and Herendeen were with Gen. Custer, acting as guides, their information on this matter is authentic and cannot be questioned. Moreover, I have a letter from Herendeen, dated Oct. 15, 1917, stating that he visited the place during September, has seen the marker, and says that it was set at the correct point. Yours sincerely, (Signed) W. M. Camp ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p017.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Oct. 29, 1917 Librarian, State Historical Library, Helena, Mont. Dear Sir: - On Aug. 24, 1917 Mr. M. L. Wilson and I set a marker on the di- vide between the Rosebud and the Little Bighorn, at the point where Gen. Custer and the 7th U. S. Cavalry crossed this divide on June 25, 1876. The place is at the head of the Middle fork of Reno Creek and but a few hund- red feet from Davis Creek, the former flowing into the Little Bighorn and the latter into the Rosebud. The marker consists of a circular brass plate or tablet 8 inches in diameter, riveted to a square plate of cast iron 1 inch thick, the latter being anchored by four bolts into a concrete pillar 12 inches square, set 3 feet in the ground and projecting a foot above ground. The tablet lies horizontal and forms the top of the pillar. The stamped inscription on the tablet reads as follows: "General George A. Custer and the 7th U.S. Cavalry Crossed the Divide at This Point, June 25, 1876". As the site where this marker was placed was selected by me personally, I was requested by Mr. Wilson to give you a statement as to the source of my information which enabled me to identify the spot, in order that the same may be placed on record; and in order, also, that there may be a record as to who placed the marker. Mr. Wilson informed me, at the time of placing the marker, that he was acting as the representative of the State Historical Library. I am, therefore, pleased to inform you that the point where Gen. Custer crossed the divide between the Rosebud and the Little Bighorn rivers, at which the marker referred to now stands, was first shown to me by Crow Indian Curly on August 4, 1909. We approached it following the trail from the Little Bighorn. During the next year George Heredeen and I made a trip over the Custer trail from the Yellowstone to the Little Bighorn, passing the divide in question on July 27, 1910; and the point designated by Herendeen as the place where Custer's command crossed this divide was the same as that shown me by Curly the year previously. Since both Curly and Herendeen were with Gen. Custer, acting as guides, their information a letter from Herendeen, dated Oct. 15, 1917, stating that he visited the place during September, has seen the marker, and says that it was set at the correct point. Yours sincerely, (Signed) W. M. Camp. COPY ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p018.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Jan.30,1918. Postmaster, Beaver, Utah. Dear Sir:-- In connection with some army history that I am writing I wish to get trace of the ancestry of a government scout commonly known as Frank Grouard, who, as a young man,lived on the Missouri river and want by the name of Ephraim Pratt, it being explained that Pratt was an adopt- ed name from the man who brought him up as an orphan. I have not the full name of this man Pratt who adopted the boy Grouard, but have been told that the said Pratt lived in Beaver, Utah, during the '70's and wrote letters occasionally to the adopted son Ephraim Pratt in the East. This information seems to be authentic, but whether Pratt lived in the East when he reared the boy or whether the boy ever lived with Pratt in Beaver, Utah, I am not certain. Could you, without too much trouble, give me the name or names of some of the old settlers of your neighborhood who may have known a man Pratt among the early settlers of Beaver who might have been the party in question? or if any of the Pratt family are now living in your part of the country could you hand them this letter, or in any other way which may seem proper to you put me in position to open up correspondence on the subject with some person who would be likely to know about the peo- ple whom I am looking up? I will thank you for any courtesy that you can do me in this matter and am Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p019.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago,, January 31, 1918 Mr. L. J. Swarts, White Bird, Idaho Dear Sir: I have received your letter of the 21st inst. in regard to the question raised in my letter of August 7, 1915, as to the number of civilians in the White Bird fight. In that letter I gave you a list of twelve which I had obtained from your father, and he thought that there was still another, making thirteen in all, but I now understand, from your letter, that he has concluded that there were only eleven, all told, the name of Asa Jones being dropped from the list as not having been present. I will there- fore revise my list to omit the name of Asa Jones and leave the other eleven men stand as having been present in the battle. I regret very much to learn of the accident which hap- pened to your father and of the fact that he is not in good health. Please convey to him the expression of my regard and remembrance of the courtesy he showed me at the time I called on him [illegible—smudged] ago. I shall be pleased to learn whether you are living per- manently on your father's place, or, if elsewhere, your location, as I expect to visit the battle field again, probably next year to make sketches of the ground, which I did not have time to do when I was there three years ago. Thanking you for your kindness in writing me at this time, and for your interest in assisting me to get thelist of names cor- rect, I remain Yours truly, WMC/RW ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p020.jpg) C 181 Wm Falconer INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER COMPANY OF AMERICA (INCORPERATED) General Offices at Chicago, U.S.A. "Champion" "Dearing" "McCormick" "Milwaukee" "Plano" "Osborne" Harvesters and Other Lines of Machinery Mailed from Bismark. N. D. Address reply to me at Bismark Town State Feby 3 1918 Mr W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave, Chicago Ill. Dear Mr Camp, Your kind favor of Jany 30. recieved, and I was very glad to hear from you again. Your letters are always very interesting, the only trouble is, that you do not write often enough. I would be very glad to meet you again in the near future as there is many questions that I would like to ask you, which would take too long to put on paper, I hope that we may be able to visit the Custer battle field together within the next two years, as you have Visited the battle field so often. and I have never been there, that you could point out to me many interesting things that I would know nothing about if I went there alone. But I was going some time and would like very much to go this summer if I can arrange matters, so ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p021.jpg) [written inside a circle] that I can get away. Have you De Rudios story! (also private D'Neels who were left in the timber for two nights before they joined Reno on the hill. Have you also Trumpter Martin's story who carried the message from Adjt Cook to Benteen to "hurry up" and "being packs". I have never read their story. Also have you an account of the Reno concert of inquiry that was held in Chicago in 1879. I have never read it, although it was printed in the army and Navy Journal at that time. I have the complite life of Gen Custer written by Frederick Whittaker who was a Captain or Genl Custers staff during the civil war, The book was published in 1876. by Sheldon and Company. New York. This book does not give a fair account of the Custer battle. It tries to make out that Custer was the only hero, and severly courdavers President Grant, Genl Terry— Reno and Benteen, It states in one place Benteen was ordered to "come on" "be quick" "He obeyed by advancing three miles in two hours", Then in another place in the book, "Had Reno fought as Custer fought, and had Benteen obeyed Custers orders, the battle of the Little Horn might have proved Custers last and ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p022.jpg) greatest Indian victory". There again "Had not President Grant, moved by private revenge, displaced Custer from command of the Fort Lincoln column, Custer would be alive to day and the Indian war settled." you know, and I know that history does not bear out all of these statements. Custer was a peculilar man. He had his enemies in the Army and out of the Army, but I doubt if there are any one living to day, who was an enemy of Custer at the time of his death, but who are sorry the way Custer met his death. On July 28-1918, I will have lived contin- ously in the City of Bismarck for 44 years having coming came to Bismarck in 1874 Bismarck there being only a small frontier town, I was well acquainted with many of the officers who were killed. Tom Custer, Keogh, Yates, Smith, Calhoun, McIntosh, I was not personally acquainted with Genl Custer but seen him a great ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p023.jpg) many times in 1874. 1875 and the spring of 1876 at old Fort A Lincoln. There were a great many fire officers and men Killed in that fight, and all the old timers, and a great majority of the historians will tell you that Custer and Custer alone was to blame for the disaster. Well Mr Camp I must stop. Write me when you have time, and if you have any thing about De Rudio—Private O Neil Trumpter Martini. The Reno county Inquiry held in Chicago in 1879, kindly give it to me, I am after facts and history not romance, Write as soon as you can, Sincerely yours N. A Fral[---] 20 [-] Avenue E and 2nd st Bismarck, North Dakota. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p024.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Feb. 12, 1918. Mrs. Thomas Willis, Idaho Falls, Ida. Dear Madam:-- In connection with a history of the Indian wars that I am writing I wish to get trace of the ancestry of a scout who went by the name of Frank Grouard. An associate of his during his army career tells me that Grouard used to get letters from a family named Pratt, living in Beaver, Utah, and that Grouard claimed to be an adopted son of this Pratt family. I learn, from Beaver, that you are of the Pratt family and can probably give me the history of this man Grouard. I will thank you for any information that you will give me concerning him, particularly as to whether his given name was "Frank" at first, and whether he had a sister of half blood in this country, as he claimed to be a half-breed Hawaiin. A woman living in South Dakota, named Mrs. Goings, claimed to be a sister of Grouard. Were they both [illegible deletion] adopted and reared by this Pratt fam- ily, of Beaver? Grouard often referred to her as his "sister", so I am told. Both Grouard and this M rs. Goings have been dead many years. Can you tell me how old Frank was when he left Beaver? or about what year? I will greatly appreciate all the information that you can give me regarding this man. Yours sincerely, P.S Do you know where there is a photograph of Grouard that I could barrow for copying? ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p025.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Feb.12,1918. Mr. Charles E. Grouard, Santa Ana, Cal.. Dear Sir:-- In connection with a history of the Indian wars of the West that I am writing I wish to trace the ancestry of a government scout of prominence named Frank Grouard, and I understand that he was a half broth- er of yours. Could you give me some account of your father's family, and who Frank's mother was? Was she a Hawaiian woman? and did she die in this country or in Hawaii? Can you give me the place and date of Frank's death? and do you know where I could borrow a photograph of him for copying? I will thank you for any information that you can give me to assist in this biographical account of the Scout Grouard, as he was quite highly estimated as a guide and scout in his day. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p026.jpg) Beaver Utah 2/7/18 Ephraim Grouard was born in the Hawaiian Islands about 1850. Adison Pratt went there as a Mor- -mon Missionary in 1846. and Ephraim's parents joined the Mor- -mon Church, & shortly after that, Mrs Grouard died, and Mrs Pratt taken the boy Ephraim to raise. Mrs Grouard was a native of the Hawaiian Islands. About the year 1852 The Pratt family came to San Bernardi -no California, and Ephraim's father came with them, & he remained there untill about 1860 & went to Arizo- -na, & I learned afterward that he died there. In the spring of 1858, the Pratt family came to Beaver City Utah, and shortly after that Adison Pratt returned to San Bernardino, Cal. & remained ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p027.jpg) 2 there till he died, with his daughter, Mrs Dyer. Mrs. Pratt was a school tea- -cher, & what education the boy got was at her school. She was very kind to him The letters written to him from Beaver Utah, that you refer to, must have been writ -ten by Mrs Pratt In 1868, Ephraim left here & went North & became an Indian Scout . Mrs. Thomas Willis, one of the Pratt family, living at Idaho Falls, can give you a better history of the lad prehaps. Mrs Willis' husband died & she may have married—&now known by some other name Kindness of Dr. Christian Beaver, Utah. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p028.jpg) Forward Grouard W. M. Camp 7740 Union Ave Chicago Ill [Stamp on upper right corner] BEAVER FEB 7 3. [-]M 1918 UTAH ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p029.jpg) 7740 S. Union Ave., Chicago, February 12, 1918 Dr. Christian, Beaver, Utah. Dear Sir: I thank you for your letter of the 7th inst. giv- ing me information in regard to Mr. Adison Pratt and his adopted son, Ephraim. As a matter of record I would be pleased to learn your full name, and also to inquire regarding a sister of this Ephraim Grouard. In South Dakota, where Grouard was living during the 80's, there was a woman married to a man by the name of Goings, whom Grouard always addressed as "sis- ter". They bore a resemblance as to nationality, and were commonly taken for mulatto negroes, although Grouard always insisted that he was of Hawaiian origin. If you have any recollection of a sister of his, reared by Mr. Pratt, or by any other people, I shall be glad to have the information. Again thanking you for your courtesy in this mat- ter, I remain Yours truly, W. M. Camp. WMC/RW (over) ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p030.jpg) I learned from Grouard father that he had a sister older than him:—& I also understood that she came to San Francisco with a family from Hawaiian Islands, (friends of his), but that they returned to the Islands. I have heard Mrs Pratt speaks of her.—My name is John Ward Christian Respectfully, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p031.jpg) 7740 S. Union Ave., Chicago, February 12, 1918 Dr. Christian, Beaver, Utah. Dear Sir: I thank you for your letter of the 7th inst. giv- ing me information in regard to Mr. Adison Pratt and his adopted son, Ephraim. As a matter of record I would be pleased to learn your full name and also to inquire regarding a sister of this Ephraim Grouard. In South Dakota, where Grouard was living during the 80's, there was a woman married to a man by the name of Goings, whom Grouard always addressed as "sis- ter". They bore a resemblance as to nationality, and were commonly taken for mulatto negroes, although Grouard always insisted that he was of Hawaiian origin. If you have any recollection of a sister of his, reared by Mr. Pratt, or by any other people, I shall be glad to have the information. Again thanking you for your courtesy in this mat- ter, I remain Yours truly, WMC/RW ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p032.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, February 12, 1918 Postmaster, Beaver, Utah. Dear Sir: I wish to thank you for your courtesy in referr- ing to Dr. Christian my letter making inquiry as to the an- cestry of Ephraim Pratt, who, as a man went by the name of Grouard. I have received from Dr. Christian a letter giv- ing me a good deal of information about Grouard and the Pratt family, and I am replying to this in today's mail. As Dr. Christian did not sign his name in full, I am not able to give his initials in the address, but I assume that you can supply this, or forward the letter to him in case he does not live in Beaver. Yours truly, WMC/RW ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p033.jpg) El Loro, Cal. Feb. 19, 1918 W. M. Camp. 7740 Union Ave, Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir: In reply to your letter of Feb. 12, inquiring of F Grouard would say the best reference I can give you on his life, is a book already published. We have not a copy but Geo. Burch, Owensmouth, Los Angeles Co. has one and I think would loan it to you.. It ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p034.jpg) [Column 1] contains a very complete history of F. Grouard's life. Frank's mother was a native of Taiti Islands and died there, having gone back from America. I can not give you the data on Frank's death as it occurred shortly after my father's death in 1915 and we did not give it the attention we should. In the book I mention is a very good picture of Mr. Grouard. I would be very interested in having a copy of your book when [Column 2] completed and would appreciate it greatly if you would let me know the publisher's name that I may secure one. If I can render any further assistance, I will be glad to do so. Sincerely, Mrs. Louise Grouard Mock 1076 W. 4th St. Santa Ana, Cal. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p035.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Feb.23,1918. Mrs. Louise Grouard Mock, 1076 W. 4th Street, Santa Ana, Cal. Dear Madam:-- I have received your letter of 19th inst. and desire to thank you for the information you have given me in regard to the exist- ence of a book on the life of Frank Grouard. I shall endeavor to get to see a copy of it. Will you please inform me whether I am right in taking you for the daughter of Charles E. Grouard, the half brother of Frank? You do not so state in your letter, mentioning only the fact that your father died in 1915, without saying who he was. I infer that he was the Charles E. Grouard, to whom I addressed my letter. I shall be pleased if you will give me such in formation as you can on the following questions:-- 1-- Did you ever hear that Frank Grouard had a married sister in this country? When he lived in South Dakota there was a Mrs. Goings, who is now dead, whom Frank usually addressed as "sister". She was half white, the same as Frank was, but some say they doubted that she was his sister. 2-- Can you give me the date <(month and day)> when Charles E. Grouard died? Did he have any [illegible deletion] full brothers or sisters, and what were their names, with married names in the case of the sisters, addresses, etc. Ditto the chil- dren of Charles E. Grouard or of any of his brothers or sisters? I am going to give considerable biographical information of the army scouts and their families in my book, which is my reason for asking these questions so particularly. 3-- Are you sure about Frank Grouard dying since 1915? I have always been told that he died about 20 years ago.. If you are right about it, where did he die? My book is not ready for publication yet, but when it is I will acquaint you with the name of the publisher. I am looking for a photograph of Frank Grouard, to place in the book. Do you know where there is one that I can borrow for copying? Greatly appreciating any information that you can give me on these matters, I remain Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p036.jpg) Idaho Falls, Feb 25th 1918. Mr. W. M. Camp, Dear Sir Yours of the 12 is received, I hardly know what to write you concerning Grouard, his proper name was Ephraim, he took his father's and his elder brother's name after he joined the army, he always went by the name of Eph. Pratt, while he lived with us; he was Born on the Island of [---] one of the Tahitians group of Islands, was born on on Sept—20th 1850. left us some time in the 60— I dont remember now the year, mother ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p037.jpg) and he went up to Ogden N.J. on a visit to my sister who was living there, and let him go to live with a man by the name of Wells Chase Chase, from there he wandered every where; he was never addopted we just took him to raise as is the custom of that Country when he was fifteen months old, when he was weened; he was like the Soldier "On the Rhine, he ever was a wayard lad, and thought his home a cage;" and gave my mother lots of trouble, I dont know where he died or when, We always heard he had gone back to where he was born, he had two brothers ther; his half sister Sopronia just dissape -red. We never knew what became of her, her father, Mr Grouard put her in the sister's (Catholic) school ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p038.jpg) 3 in Los Angeles, Cal when he moved up to San Francisco we heard she grew up to be a very devout Catholic, a very handsome woman and a fine singer, I have never seen her since she was a child, she used to live with us a great deel then. I dont know whether this will be satisfactory or not; if there is any thing more that I can give you any information about let me know. I have his Photo and will encose it with this, plase return it when you have no further use for it and oblige Mrs Thomas Willis Mrs. Thomas Willis P. S. He was not a Hawian he was a Tahitian born on the other side of the Equator, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p039.jpg) ESH MM OFFICE OF SUPERINTENDENT OF DOCUMENTS WASHINGTON February 27, 1918. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. Dear Sir:- Replying to your letter of February 21st:- If you will kindly indicate the subject in which you are interested we will quote you the Volume of the 2nd Scientific Pan American Congress which contains this subject. Very respectfully, Josiah H. Brinker Superintendent. Josiah H. Brinker Chicago 3/4/18 Dear Sir—The subjects is which I am interested are as follows: Vol 1 = 75 [cents symbol] "The Gensis of the American Indian," by Dr Alin H[---] "Notes on Sign Language of Plain Indians," by H. L. Scott. "Relationship Terms of the Crow and Hidatsa Indian," by Dr Robt. H Lourie "Racial Elements in Modern Population of America," by Dr. Franz Boas "Comparative Study of Pawnee & Blackfoot Rituals," by Dr. Clark Wissler. "Omaha and Osage Tradition of Separation," by Francis La Flesche. "The Passing of the Indian," by James Mooney. "Excavation of a Pre-Leuafe Site in New Jersey, by C.W. Hawlee "Orgin and Detrusion of a National Indian Portrait Gallery, by J.W. Hodge Yours Truly W.M.Camp NO RECORD HAS BEEN MADE OF THIS LETTER THEREFORE, IF REFERRED TO IN FUTURE CORRESPONDENCE, IT SHOULD BE RETURNED. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p040.jpg) INDIAN WARS March 2,1918. Mrs. Thomas Willis, 351 Hill St., Idaho Falls, Idaho. Dear Madam:-- I have received your letter of Feb.25, which I am much pleas- ed to have, as I had never expected to get so much information regarding Frank Grouard's early life, from an authentic source, as you have given me. Your familiarity with his early career leads me to make further inquiry, as I would like to have my biographical information of him as complete as possible. He died in St. Joseph, Mo., more than twenty years ago. He never went back to his native land that I can learn of. As you have so kindly offered to give me further information should I desire it, I have the following questions to ask:-- 1--I infer from your letter that you are a daughter of Addison Pratt, who brought this boy Ephraim up. Am I correct about this? and may I have your maiden name in full? 2--[---] not certain of your spelling of the name of the island which Ephraim was born. Is it "Tupuie"? I know where the island of Ta- hiti is. -- The photograph which you have kindly sent me will be returned after I have had a copy of it made. 3--Can you tell me about when this photograph was taken? Was it not soon after he left Utah? say within a year?My reason for asking this is because I find it was taken in Cheyenne; and I think he went to the Mis- souri River country to live soon after leaving Utah. 4--There are conflicting stories about his education, some saying he was illiterate, because of his habit of having other people write his letters for him and read his correspondence to him. May I ask whether he had much schooling? or could he write integlligently, or read? 5--You refer to his half sister Sopronia. May I ask whether she was of white blood or mixed? If white was she a full sister of the Charles E.Grouard who lived in Santa Ana, Cal? A Doctor De Barthe, who used to live in Chicago, and who knew Grouard in the army, told me that this Charles E.Grouard was a half brother of Frank, but both are now dead. Greatly appreciating the courtesy of your letter now before me, and thanking you for this and for such further information as you can give me I remain Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p041.jpg) Idahofalls, March 6th 1918. Mr. W. M. Camp, Dear Sir Yours of the first inst- is recieved, I am the fourth daughter of Adison and Loisa Barns Pratt, and my miden name is Ann Louisa Pratt it is now Walks Tapriet now Willis "Sophie" is one of the "Society" group of Polands some distance from Chita." which is the Capitol, is under French protoctorate, and the French Goven- -er has his residence there, on Tahita) I do not know just when the photograph was taken, but some time after he left Utah, Sir *This youd believe with T. N[---] "T" in Thomas in her signature ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p042.jpg) 2 must have been while he was in the M,S,S Armey, I think he was not much of a schollar as he left us while quite young, and he was always very much oppose to going to school tho I know he could read, read but as far as writing I cant say about that. He was taken by Sitti -ng Bulls Indians and held prisoner for a number of years while carrying the mail up through this Northern Country before he joined the Armey. Sophronia was a halfbreed like him self, her mother died when she was born; then Mr Gouard ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p043.jpg) married Ephraim's mother, had three sons by her, Eph was the middle one; she came to Amarca with him, was not satisfied here, and pined for her own Country - so he sent her back with the youngest child; there he married Charles, G, Grouard's mother. You must please excuse my poor writing for I am getting old, and the last of my father's family, also my own; will soon be seventy eight, so my writing is not quite as nice as it once was, Is this satisfactory? Mrs. Thomas Willis Mrs. Thomas Willis ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p044.jpg) GENERAL ANSON MILLS, U.S. ARMY, (RETIRED.) No 2 DUPONT CIRCLE, WASHINGTON, D.C. March 29, 1918. My dear Mr. Camp: The annual meeting and dinner of the Order of the Indian Wars of the United States will take place on Saturday evening, April 20, 1918 at the Army & Navy Club, Connecticut Avenue, Washington, D.C., at 8:00 o'clock. I would be pleased to have you as my guest. Kindly advise me of your acceptance that I may have a formal invitation sent you by the Society. I would also be pleased to have you as my guest at my house dur- ing your visit. Yours very truly, Anson Mills Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p045.jpg) [col 1] CLASS OF SERVICE SYMBOL TELEGRAM NEWCOMB CARLTON, PRESIDENT GEORGE W. E. ATKINS, FIRST VICE-PRESIDENT [col 3] CLASS OF SERVICE SYMBOL Day Message Day Letter Blue Night Message Nite Night Letter N L If none of these three symbols appears after the check (number of words) this is a day message. Other- wise its character is indicated by the symbol appearing after the check. [new column] RECEIVED AT JACKSON BOULEVARD AND LA SALLE ST., CHICAGO. ALWAYS OPEN B508W 33 NL 1918 APR 13 PM 8 03 W H CAMP 5067 7740 UNION AVE CHICAGO ILL MAILED YOU INVITATION MARCH 29TH TO BE MY HOUSE AND INDIAN WAR DINNER GUEST ON SATURDAY APRIL 20TH AT 1 PM DID YOU RECEIVE IT AND CAN YOU ACCEPT ANSON MILLS. Anson Mills ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p046.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., April14,1918. Gen. Anson Mills, 2 Dupont Circle, Washington, D.C. Dear General Mills:-- I have recieved your letter of March 29, kindly in- viting me to attend the annual dinner of the Order of Indian Wars, as your guest, and also to be guest at your house, for which I thank you. I have to-day received also your telegram, wanting to know whether I can accept. I have been thinking all along that I should have answered your letter promptly, and yet I have not, any of the time, been sure of being able to go until within a day or two, and it struck me that I should not reply indefinitely nor accept your kind invitation provisionally. In order that you may feel right in regard to the matter, I think I had bet- ter explain. Nearly all of my trips east are made in connection with editorial work, as editor of the Railway Review, and my traveling expenses are paid by the paper. Of late it did not seem likely that there would be any oc- casion for an editorial trip during this month, and, such being the case I did not think I could accept your invitation, as then I would have the railroad fare and other traveling expenses to meet myself, and I did not think I could afford it. I greatly enjoy the annual dinners of the Order of Indian Wars, which I have attended twice through your kindness, and, in order that you may not think I am losing interest in them, I ought to tell you\why I have to look at the financial question somewhat carefully, as above intimated. Since about 1903 I have benn spending each year $150 to $200 for rail- road fares, stage fares, livery hire and other traveling expenses in con- nection with my historical studies in the West, and this is about all I can afford to do out of my salary. As my western trip for this season will absorb all of this, I hardly thought I could afford to meet the ex- pense of the trip to Washington at this time. Nearly all of my histor- ical work in the East has been in connection with my editorial trips, for many years, so that, at most, I have had only part of the traveling ex- pense to meet personally. For instance, when I attended the annual din- ner of the Order of the Indian Wars last year I had to meet personally the expense only from Pittsburg to Washington, as I was in Pittsburg on edit- orial work. I was about to send you my "regrets" last week, when, Saturday, it was decided that I should accompany one of our business representatives on a trip to Cleveland, Pittsburg, and perhaps Philadelphia, starting on Tuesday. We have not planned the trip in detail yet, but I had thought we would likely do that to-morrow, and then I would write you my accept- ance of your invitation. As I feel quite certain that I shall be in either Pittsburg or Philadelphia on Friday, the 19th, I feel safe in being able to get to Washington by Saturday, and so I wired you a prepaid mes- sage this evening that I expected to attend the annual dinner. I look forward to the event with a good deal of pleasure, as these dinners are an opportunity to me in my historical studies. I trust that you will overlook my delay in replying to your invitation. I am not just sure that the above recital of my financial matters is the proper thing to write, but I could not very well have fixed up an explanation of my ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F25_B2_F3_p047.jpg) delay in any other manner and told the truth. I am much pleased that things have chanced to turn out the way they have with me, and, hoping to see you next Saturday evening, if not before, I remain Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p001.jpg) Seal of South Dakota STATE OF SOUTH DAKOTA Department of History Administers State Library Census Doane Robinson Pierre Vital Statistics Legislative Reference Secy& Supt May 6, 1918 My dear Mr. Camp: I have yours of the 4" written from Newaygo. I certainly wish to use your photograph, and to give you the fullest credit for your successful effort in locating the battlefield. I have edited for use not the whole of your Bee article which tells of the campaign of 1876 feeling that our publication of 1912 well supplied all the historical material necessary in that behalf but I have taken the portion beginning on the last page of the Bee's reprint with the description of the Buttes: "Slim Buttes a long range of clay hills in Harding county, etc." and used the remainder of your article, giving to it the proper setting. I shall be very glad to substitute a revised story for this if you desire to send me one, or to supplement this with any other matter you deem pertinent. I am using just enough of other matter to show to my constituents that I did not improvidently publish General King's map in 1912. I feel that it is due to myself and to the integrity of my work to do this much, though I do it entirely without feeling or re- flection upon any one. Gen. Mills has sent me a copy of his work and I note his rather invidous remarks, but am able to find an excuse for his rather unfair view. I do not think General King meant him to understand quite all he says in the statement, "that he never furnished Mr. Robinson with a map sufficient to make the location." I have previously supplied to you a portion of my correspondence with General King covering this point. I do not think I have informed you that at my request the state geologist, Dr. Todd had, before I wrote to Gen. King at all made a dilligent search of the region and extended inquiry among the settlers and had been unable to secure any evidence of the location of the site, though he geologized the entre section. Faithfully, Doane Robinson Sec'y and Supt. I will say that I am a good deal more solicitous for Mr. Jacobson's reputation than from my own. He acted wholly without interest and soley to accommodate me and his family felt very much cut up over your statement in the Bee. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p002.jpg) Sussex Wyo May 12 1918 Dear sir your letter at hand, yes my place is only (6) six miles west of that place you speak of but I could not tell you much about it is on the main stream of Powder River at the mouth of Dry Fork of Powder River. And at the mouth of Soldger Creek & nine mile creek is when the MC Kinney Fort was. The old remains of sod houses & log houses is still there today & the big walls are still at Fort Reno Just a few miles below it is about 70 miles from Gillett or 90 miles from Clearmont to this place if you write to Mr Richard Young or Tom Collins they can tell ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p003.jpg) you all about there. Mr. Tom Collins fought there at the time of the Indians fight and could tell you all. Address him Tom Collins c/o Richard Young Scotch Ranch Powder River Buffalo Wyoming and that will find him all right. wishing you success in your understanding of looking this all up. wish I could tell you more but am not able to say much. Very truly, Emil Meike P.M. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p004.jpg) Captaine of German girls Calexico, Calif. May 30, 1918 W. M. Camp - 7740 Union Ave Chicago Ill. Dear Sir Yours of inquiry at hand. I am the oldest of the four German girls, not Germain but German was the name ) Altho it has been called called Germaine most always since we come before the public. It was 12 miles south of mon- ument Station on the Smoky Hill river in Kansas - and supposed to be twenty five miles from Wallace east. The last town we passed there was Elsworth. I do not remember how many days we had traveled since leaving the settlement. Four or five and it was our intention to reach Wallace that evening. This happened early in the morning of Sep 11 - 1874. Was the southern Cheyenne and was only a raiding party of 19. Father had hesitated ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p005.jpg) about taking the river rout. where advised to do so at Elsworth. People said there had been nothing of that - for some time and it would be impossible to get water of we followed the R. R - up-as the RR hauled their water. Mrs. Frank D. Baldwin wife of Col Frank Baldwin now of Denver Colo. Tried wrote out livestyle while with indians, Mr Baldwin traced our tables on the maps. He followed us over the Texas plains and his men tricked up the had lille girls when they were left by Indians in camp. Because of the hurry they were in to get away and girls were some trouble to carry being five and seven years. For some reason the manuscript was not friended. And some time Mrs. Baldwin had paintings made. and offered it to many publishing co. none look hold of it and so it had rested till my children come on to be calculated.not being able to do as well by then as I wished I looked it up and it had dropped out of sight. Four years ago Colonel Baldwin wrote on the sketch had been found. Has not been used. From time to time some one makes a story up about our capitols and some get badly mixed. While others get it no better ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p006.jpg) from about seven or eight - years ago a maga- zine had a very good shot sketch in it I really cant say what one it was. It seems as tho it was McClures. After we come to Calif. a writer here prevailed on me to write a sketch but sickness came to her so she never got it wrote for publishing The four of us are still living and getting on the shady side of life. All have families. Gen Nelson A Miles and Col Baldwin was just immortal in our recapture and have done many good things for us German girls. - If there is any thing else I can anwser will do so to best of my ability. I really tried to forget this experience and succeeded to some extent - And since I have wished I had not had that retiring feeling because there has been many things I have forgotten. When we first wrote it up I could discribe every camp ing place during the five month and eighteen days. And Baldwin said my directions was better than his could have been with out any thing to go by as I was. he followed our trail so he had maps of our travels. Resp. Catherine E. Sweolfeger - CE Sweolfeger Calexico, Calif. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p007.jpg) IMAGINATIVE Fort Pierre, S.D. May 31st., 1918. W.M. Camp Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir:- I have your letter of the 15th, inst and replying ther etc will say: That I did not take part in the battle of Slim Buttes on September 9th 1876. In the year of 1878 I left Galveston with/and in the capacity of a Scout and traveled North with him till I reached Fort Lincoln, Montana in the year of 1876. At that time I was ordered by Gen. Reno to take a dispatch to Gen Custer who was three miles away across the River (Bighorn) to lay down till he, Reno could reach him. This I did,and then returned to Gen. Reno. I also know who killed Gen. Custer. It was Sitting Bulls nephew. He also later killed Sitting Bull, at Standing Rock. If I can give you any more information I will be glad to do so. I am, Very truly yours, Witness to his mark his James Heallahad NapoleonXWelcome Mark. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p008.jpg) German Girls 6 - 18 - 1918 W M Camp 7740 Union Ave Chicago Ill Sir: - Replying to your inquiry about the German girls I being Sophia the second oldest of the four surviving. As near as I can remember it was about fourteen miles north of what is now Lakin, kansas A. We were traveling on the Smokey hill road. It happened on the morning of Sept. 11, 1874 We were taken by the Cheyenne Indians ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p009.jpg) There have been short sketches written for different newspapers at different times. If you should want more information I think you could get it from my older sister Mrs C. E. Swerdfeger Calexico To L. J. Swendfeger. Calif From Mrs Sophia Feldman Humboldt R7D #4 Nebr. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p010.jpg) Auod July 29 18 Baptiste Pourier Manderson. Sm Dak. July 21. 1918. Dear Friend, I am coming over to see you soon I may be over the first part of August, I had a letter from James Cooke telling me that Captain Charles King would be there on the 10th of Aug. and would like for me to see him, I was a scout for him in 1876 so I am coming over there to see him there come over to see you. I would like for you to tell me how much money John Richard had at the time he married Emily Janis so please write as soon as you can and let me know, and also I would like to know whether Ephraim Philips. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p011.jpg) daughter is still living if or where she is. Two of my Grandsons are in the army, one is now across and the other is in California. and the third one I is to leave in a few days, I think this war is just terrible but I hope they will come home safe. These few lines leave us all in fine health and hope they may find you in the same way. My wife had a letter from Mrs. Hunter we were very glad to hear from her. Hoping to hear from you soon I remain your friend Big Bate Pourier ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p012.jpg) Stanley Wolcott Hayes Richmond, Indiana September 21, 1918 Mr. W. M. Camp, Editor, Railway Review, Ellsworth Bldg., Chicago, Ill. My dear Mr. Camp: - I want to thank you again for the enter- taining account you gave me of your stay among the Indians. I have written for Captain Clark's book and I hope to see your own researches and exper- iences put into book form one of these days. With my best regards, I am, Yours very truly, SWH-Kp S W Hayes ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p013.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Nov.5,1918. Mrs. Huggins; Millboro, S.Dak. Dear Madam:-- In connection with a history of the plains country that I a am writing I have run across a group photograph taken at Fort Laramie in 1868, or fifty years ago. Last summer I showed it to Sioux at Rosebud Agency, and it was suggested that you might be able to tell me the names of some or all of the people in the group. Accordingly, I have mailed you a copy of this photograph, which you may keep, if you desire it, and I will thank you to write me the names of such of those as you can identify. You might tell me, first, the names of the men, standing, from left to right, and next the names of the women, sitting, from left to right, and, finally, the names of the children. Such information as you can give me in regard to this historical matter will be appreciated. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p014.jpg) Indian Wars Nov.17,1918. Mrs. Louise Huggins, Millboro, S. Dak. Dear Madam:-- I have received your kind letter of Nov. 10, and am greatly pleased to get it, and to have the names of the people in the photograph which you have identified for me. I know George Colhoff very well. I get acquianted with him at Pine Ridge many years ago, but did not recognize him in the picture until getting your letter. Next summer, when I go out to the Indian country, I will try to call on you. I think you could tell me a good deal about the people at Fort Laramie (Maga Wakpa) when you were young. You must be an old lady by this time. I have visited the Sioux people every summer for the past 15 years, and am aquainted with them on all of the reservations. With regards, and many thanks, I remain Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p015.jpg) RUSSELL THORP, PRESIDENT ANNA Y. THORP, SEC'Y TREAS J.J GALBREATH GALBREATH CATTLE COMPANY CUT BANK, MONTANA November 21 1918 Mr. W.M.Camp, Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir; Reply yours Oct. 24. In first place the man who can give you the most authentic information regarding stage and frt. road Cheyenne to Black Hills is Mr. Luke Voorhees, Cheyenne. and he would gladly comply. My father bought the old stage line from Voorhees and I was raised in that country. The line left Ft. Larmie and crossed the old Govt. steel bridge over the Platt River then up Cottonwood Creek past the Government Farm then to Pararie Spgs. and crossed Muskrat Creek a mile farther on at the Emma Ranch. Judge Madison of Douglas, Wyo. who is still living owned the Emma Ranch at that time. Thence over to Raw Hide Buttes striking Raw Hide Creek very near the Buttes thirty miles from Ft. Laramie Thence up Raw Hide about five miles and over the divide past Silver Spgs. O.J.Demmon owned this ranch and is still living at Lusk, Wyo. Thence north crossing the Running Water Creek west of Silver Cliff and about one mile west of where the town of Lusk now stands This crossing sixteen miles north of Raw Hide Station. Thence north to Hat Creek Station sixteen miles on Sage Creek. It is possible there was a station called Bluff Station but do not recall it. Mr. Voorhees can verify that. It may be of interest to know I have the only complete original out fit in existance to day that was used on the old line. concisting of stage coach, Henery rifle carried by messengers, leather way pockets, steel treasure box, whip, and two buffalo robes. Also telegraph instrument used on the telegraph line. Very truly, [Handwritten sideways in the right margin] an [---] the old trail can be followed there [Handwritten at the bottom of the page] [---] above would be glad to give information ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p016.jpg) dug Hot creek ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p017.jpg) Mrs. Lemuel T. Nilson widow of just deceased Jacksonville, Oregon. doubtless was the original if this letter & probably would be glad to sell it. Suggest you write her direct & say I sent you enclosed copy WMB [Wm.Carey Brown] ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p018.jpg) [Handwritten at the top] copy 1440 Detroit Street, Denver, Colorado. January 20, 1919. My dear Lem T. and Mrs. Wilson: We were greatly pleased at receiving your good letter of the 8th inst. I have neglected writing my friends for more than two years, during the period of the World War. partly because I was so fully occupied in performance of the duties connected therewith. But surely all of my old time true and tried friends were most fre- quently in my mind. Friends whose sincerity and loyalty originated under the terrible ordeal of circumstances as ours did, can never be doubted or questioned, but which grows stronger as time passes. I love to recall them to mind. The Mr. Camp whose letter you enclosed to me, is an old time writer on Indian Campaigns etc and he is unusually careful to get at the facts. When he was here a few months ago I gave him a chance to look over most of my writings covering the period of 1874 and '75, from which he got facts that caused him to correct much that he had compiled. He is a good plain straight-forward writer, and I was glad to help him out. And it will be very agreeable to me that you give him your version of our ride (Sept. 1874) One thing I im- pressed on him, that our escape from the same fate that overtook the Dixon-Chapman party, was action in harmony and with determi- [The following handwritten in the left margin regarding the previous line] at Battle of Buffalo Wallow nation, would not permit ourselves to remain corralled, always breaking, shooting through their lines, always in close supporting (not bunched together) distance, and of all things kept our heads, using our rifles most effectively, which was our xxxxxx only positive assurance of escape. What would have been the result had we allowed ourselves to hunt any kind of shelter, when the Indians first struck us at the head of the little draw on the morning of the 7th. Then and there would have ended a dare-devil undertaking, which, due to skill, nerve, and positive conservation of every element embodied in the makeup of that little party of four men, [the following handwritten sideways in the left margin regarding the previous line] 4 men were - Frank D Baldwin Ira Wing Fred Schmalsle Lemmel T Wilson successfully terminated one of the most daring and remarkable rides, as bearers of dispatches, ever made over a tractless plain for more than 150 miles, the entire distance infested with hostile Indians omnipresent. I tell you, my boy, we have a right to bragg a little among ourselves. As near as I can learn Ira Wing lost his life at some one of the mines in Southern Colorado. When, I do not know. Of course the dare-devil Schmalsle died some years ago. Mrs. Dixon sent me a copy of Billy's life. It was completed by her after his death. I am sending it to you to read. When you are through with it, you can send it back. Where you note errors as to dates and places, please make notes. The time has come when we can afford to give our a complete statement of our trip. When I revise what I have written, I am going to send it to you for approval. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p019.jpg) -2- Of course all are happy that the battles of the World's War are over, but the country is far from satisfied with the political situation, and I feel that our political conventions are worse and more unsettled than ever before. I am opposed to any kind of legal measures. I want to see a peace treaty entered into that assures justice and honor to all. Our grandson has returned and is now a captain in the regular army. On duty with his regiment at Camp Dodge, Iowa. We often talk of yours and Mrs. Wilson's visit with us and wish it could be repeated. We enjoyed your wife so much. Write when you can. Always glad to hear from my old time friends. Mrs. Baldwin joins me with best wishes for your health and happiness. Most sincerely yours, (Signed) Frank D. Baldwin, U.S.A. Am returning Camp's letter. [The following handwritten in the bottom half of the page] I always considered, Gen. Frank D. Baldwin as more than my commanding officer. He was my friend. This letter should prove that I was with him on that ride. Sept 7-10/74 I have original letter in his own handwriting on file. Lem. T. Wilson ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p020.jpg) [The following handwritten at the top of the page] RE ZACK YATES KILLED IN 1874 BOZEMAN EXPEDITION Belle Fourche S Dak Mch 16-1919 Mr. W. M. Camp Chicago Ill Dear Sir Yours of Feb 15 ull was receieved some days ago and I owe you an apology for not writing sooner Zack Yates was killed in the morn- ing before we had eaten breakfast We had just turned our horses of the corral and most of these were not more than ¼ of a mile from camp when the indians made a raid on the herd. Fortunately for us our camp was on a little hill while the horses were feeding in the bottom of a small stream on which we were camped; and we saw the indians coming before ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p021.jpg) they got to the herd. We grabbed our guns and rushed out to help the herders get the horses in the corral. In the mel[--] an indian was shot from his horse and lay on the prairee about ten of us started out to scalp him; and here is where Zack Y. was killed. We hauled his body that day and when we dug out pit that eve we made the enbankment on Zack's grave. a part of the enbankment around the corral. He was bur- ried on the East side of the corral and about midway of the corral. If the ground has not been dis- turbed, it would be easy to find his grave; as the ground over the grave would settle more than the other. We placed a bomb shell in his grave, with a board over it with a string attachment to set off the fuse when they raised the board I will give the names of those ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p022.jpg) that I remember. Our officers were Frank, Grounds Captain William Wright, Lieutenant Eli Way, adjutant, Bill Hamilton Corporal. The privates were Archie Campbell who scalped the indian when yates was killed. Alec W Cormick Geo. Willer, John McKenzie. It has been nearly 45 years since this happened and I cant think of any more. Mich Boyer was not with us. I dont remember Le Forge yes we had two pieces of Cannon with us and brought back both of them to Bozeman. We organized on the Yellow Stone on the 12 day of Feb and got back to Bozeman on the 12 of May. I was in Bozeman about 15 years ago; and visited M.J.V Bogart who had a collection of guns, bows & arrows; knives; scalps & c that we left in Bozeman. If Mr. B. is alive and you can get in touch with him ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p023.jpg) I think you could get a list of all the names that were with the ex- pedition. While Mr Bogart did not go with us, he took a very active part in getting the expedition started I think this will be about all I can think of now that would interest you. However if there is anything that I could enlighten you on I will be glad to do so Resp J.E. Cook cook ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p024.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Feb.22,1919. Mr. Emil A. O. Hawk, Manderson, S.Dak. Dear Sir:-- I have found your notation on the letter which you wrote to me for Woman's Dress, and I wish to thank you for your kindness to me, as well as to the old man, in writing his letters. I think a good deal of the old scout. Unfortunately for both of us, I had too many affairs crowded into that trip of ours last summer to afford the time with him that I wanted to have in our search for the battlefield where he was wounded in fighting the Cheyennes at their last stand. But, having promised to meet General King at Jim Cook's ranch, there was nothing for me to do but be there on the date agreed upon, and this is what cut short my trip with Woman's Dress. I think you are the same Emil whose team I drove over from the agency to Manderson, some years ago. The man whom you let have it to go to the agency got witkoko and was put in the guard house, and Goings told me I might drive the team home. You were away, but Mr. Simmons and Mr. McMillan said I might have it to drive down to Pourier's and over to Porcupine, which I did, calling on Ano Pizila and Mila Itanoon. I expect to come out again this summer, and want to go around the reservation considerable. If the roads get into good shape I may bring my own car along, as I did last year, but if the season is wet I will come by railroad. I shall hope to meet you and make your acquaintance, and, again thanking you for being ieska to my old friend the scout, I remain Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p025.jpg) INDIAN WARS Feb.24,1919 Mrs. Pauline Delaney, Stratton Hotel, San Francisco, Cal. Dear Madam:-- In some history of the Indian wars of the West that I am wri- ting I have been trying to find the name of the soldier of the 9th U.S. Infantry who bayoneted the Sioux chief Crazy Horse, when he was killed at Fort Robinson, in September, 1877. I am told that Sergeant James Delaney was present when this event occurred, and I learn that you are his widow. I would, therefore, like to ask if you ever heard your husband tell of the killing of Crazy Horse, and if he ever mentioned the name of the soldier who thrust the bayonet into Crazy Horse, when he was killed. Any information that you can give me about this historical matter will be much appreciated. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p026.jpg) Fort Laramie Pirctures Wood So Dak Feb 28. 1919 Dear sir:- Some time ago you send me a picture wanting the names of the persons in a group men from left to right are Mr George Calloff, next is Mr Charley Greaux, and my father next Mr Narciss Moran. Women from left to right are Millie Freaux or Mrs Bridgman now next woman sitting down is Mrs Charley Greaux and next is Sophie Moran or Mrs Pounee, and next is Julia Moran or Mrs Dub[-]ey and next woman is ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p027.jpg) Louisa Moran who is now Mrs Huggins. boys from left to right is Jimmie Grean and the next is a boy they keept there his mother is a indian and his father is a travel man I never learned his name. But when the boy was good size his father came and took him back East and the next boy is John Greaux. If I can get some of this picture let me know and also the price of them (over) ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p028.jpg) I remain your Friend Mr Louie Moran Louie Morgan ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p029.jpg) HISTORY OF THE 7TH U.S. CAVALRY March 14, 1919 Sir Ralph Gore, The Cottage, Warsash, Hampshire, England. Dear Sir:-- In connection with some historical investigations that I am making I have in hand the hunting tour of an Irish or English gentleman, always known in this country as "Sir George Gore." He outfitted at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, in 1856, and spent about 2½ years in the wilderness of the western plains and Rocky Mountain country, winding up at St. Louis in June, 1858. He was out for big game, and at one time had as many as 70 employees, including\plainsmen, teamsters, guides, scouts, etc. His expedition became historic, as he covered considerable unexplored country, and the stockade which he built to defend himself against Indians during the winter of 1857-58 was a landmark in the Yellowstone region for many years. I have a good deal of information about this expedition from old Indians and from contemporary newspaper accounts, but would like to be able to find any record of the affair that he may have made himself, if such is avaliable. I have corresponded with British libraries without success, thus far, and am advised that there was no knighted man of that name during the time referred to. The librarian of the National Library of Ireland, Mr. T.W.Lyster, suggests that the man in question may have been Sir St. George Gore, 8th Baronet, who died in 1878; and if so thinks you may be able to confirm the conjecture. If you can give me any light as to the identity of this man Gore, and suggest where I might look for any record of his hunting tour in America during those early days, I will greatly appreciate the courtesy. Yours sincerely, W. M. Camp. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p030.jpg) Jal Culferson - Letter from Gen. T. H. Baldwin about Lvg Fort Pech Bear Par Birchfeet ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p031.jpg) April 14, 1919. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Ill. My dear Mr. Camp: I cannot make a sufficient apology for neglecting your letter, which has been placed away so carefully that I have not discovered it until within a day or two. (?) As to locating the site of the Redwater fighting in Montana on the eighth of November 1876, I thought I had furnished you with the data. The location I could easily recognize if I were on the ground, or in that vicinity, as there is one landmark that cannot be mistaken, and that is a gap in the divide between the Yellowstone and the Missouri Rivers at the head of the Redwater Creek. This was the only feasible passage we found to cross the divide after the engagement. There is a man at Poplar River who is now employed in the Indian Dept. of the Government who was with me on that date, and who should be able to lead you, or anyone you might desire to visit the place, directly to it. He is a very intelligent half-breed Indian, and it was only a few days since I received a letter from him. It would be a matter of much interest to me to know that you had located this accurately, and if I should ever go up into that region again, I am going to make it a point to stop off there and go to the place. I suppose by this time the country is well settled up, with public roads of such a character that we can reach almost any point with that modern ve- hicle, the auto. Very sincerely Frank D. Baldwin FDB.S Major General U. S. Army, (Retired) Addrep ef. Denver Club. Denver Colorado ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p032.jpg) Dug Redwater Freight ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p033.jpg) HEADQUARTERS OFFICE OF THE COMMANDING GENERAL CAMP DIX, NEW JERSEY April 19th, 1919 Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Illinois. My dear Mr. Camp: The photographs which you so kindly sent me have just been recieved, and I am very glad in- deed to get all of them. I used to know this Llittle bad Big Mman, and I think if I could look underneath that hair-pipe on his chest I would see there a silver medal recieved for service in the death of Crazy Horse in 1877 at Fort Robinson, Nebraska. My brother in Philadelphia has a pair of his moccasins. He was a nervy, earnest little devil that would take hold of your hand and would squeeze the blood out of it when he shook hands with you. I am going to give up the command of this camp about the last of this month, and am going to raise pigs up at Princeton, N. J. When you are go- ing backward and forward, you better look me up and we will have some more evenings. Thanking you for your kindly consideration about these pictures, I am Ever sincerely yours, H L O east Major General, U.S.A., HLS-JA Commanding. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p034.jpg) INDIAN WARS April 22, 1919. Mr. Joseph Culbertson, Poplar, Mont. Dear Sir:-- I have talked with Gen. Frank D. Baldwin, and had correspondence besides, in reference to the location of the site of the battle on the head of Redwater creek, in December, 1876, in which he was the commanding officer. He never told me until recently that you were with him in that fight, but he has lately suggested that you might know right where it is. I wonder if you have been at this point in recent years, and could say on whose ranch or near what ranch or other establishment the site of this battle could be located? I will thank you for any information that you can give me on this matter, with the post office address of any settle whom you think may be living near the place in question. General Bald- win is anxious that a historical record should be made of the accurate location of the site of this battle. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p035.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., April 22,1919. Postmaster, Watkins, Dawson Co., Mont. Dear Sir:-- I am interested historically in the site of a battle fought with Indians near the head of Redwater creek, Mont., in December, 1876. I think you must be living near the point in question, and I would like to ask you if the exact spot where the village was destroyed is known to the settlers of the locality. If such is known to a certainty could you say on whose ranch the place is? If not, could you give me the address of some old settler of your locality with whom I might discuss this matter? or could you refer this letter to such a party for reply? I will say that I have been making a study of the campaigns of the Indian wars for many years, and any information that you can give me that will assist in this connection will be much appreciated. Yours sincerely, W. M. Camp The only Indian Battle I know of was fought at Brow Rock some 15th 20 miles west of the Redwater Possibly I have not heard of the one you refer to. If you would write to Dan Livally, Parris, mout, who hunted buffalo all [---] this region in the early days & who could also give you the address of other old timers, I think you could get a great deal of valuable ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p036.jpg) information, concerning the early development of this country. The old timers are getting scarce in this neighbor- hood; so we new people do not hear much of the old times any more. Hoping this may be of some use to you I remain Yours very truly Portmaster Watkins Mout Watkins ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p037.jpg) Gen. Hugh L. Scott, 7740 Union Ave., April 22, 1919. Camp Dix, Trenton, N.J. My Dear General:-- I am glad to receive your kind of letter of 19th inst. and to learn that you were pleased with the photographs that I sent you. It happened that I mailed these in such a hurry, upon leaving the city, that I had no time to enclose a note with them. Since it appears, from your letter, that you were personally ac- quainted with Little Big Man, you will no doubt be interested to learn that he has a daughter, a Mrs. Good Lance, living on Pine Ridge reserva- tion. This man Good Lance, by the way, was an old army scout. I thank you for your kind invitation to call on you at your farm. I would like to be able to do this about harvest time, so as to help at pitching hay, in order to recompense you for the loss of sleep you would ex- perience fighting Indians at night, for that seems to be our failing. I was just wondering how many more pigs you may have by this time, as you had some 51 when I saw you, and more expected daily, I believe. I imag- ine that you will find both health and pleasure in your new avocation. In New York I saw a copy of Thompson Seton's book on sign talk, published by Doubleday, Page & Co. It is more pretentious than I had sup- posed it would be. Mr. Grinnell and I were discussing it, between ourselves. In his preface he lets on to have been some sign talker himself, back in the days of the wild Indian, and he seems to think that he made a great discovery, although he does give some credit to one Philo Clark and to our mutual friend Thomas H.Le Forge, for consultations. Another queer thing, at which Dr. Grinnell and I marveled, is that he treats of the sign language as a thing developed and used principally by the Cheyennes, al- though some of the other plains Indians did acquire it, in a measure, he intimates. With much expectation of what will come to pass after you have been turned loose on private life, and with regards to Mrs. Scott, as well to yourself, I remain Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p038.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., April 25, 1919. Mr. R.Hurdle, County Surveyor, Glendive, Mont. Dear Sir:-- I have been studying the Indian wars for many years, and have traveled some in Montana with Mr. M.L.Wilson, whom you know, hunting up the sites of battles with Indians. We have been on the Yellowstone, on the Rosebud and on the Little Bighorn together, and have had an inten- tion to hunt up the point on the Redwater where Gen. Miles' troops fought the Indians in the winter of 1876. Mr. Wilson some time ago wrote me that you knew of some rifle pits on Ash creek, four miles south of the main Redwater creek, and it strikes me that this may be the point where the battle was fought. I had intend- ed getting definite information of the landmarks from the old Indian survivors, on the reservations, before going to look for the place. Before I do this, however, I would be pleased to have certain particulars of the vioinity these rifle pits are located. May I ask, therefore, whether this sh creek is a tributary of the Redwater? or is it on the Yellowstone side of the divide? Is there a gap in the divide anywhere near these pits, and approx- imately how far away, and in what direction? Is there, in the vioinity of these pits, any debris of an camp, such as circles of stones that may have been used to weight down lodge skins; pieces of tepee poles; broken or cast-off tinware, or any other evidence that an Indian camp may have been there some time? About what is the extent of the ground on which these pits are located? that is, about how many pits are there? or how far from one extremity to the other? Such information as these inquiries relate to will be of assist- ance to me in studying the matter before we visit the place, and if you can give it to me your courtesy will be much appreciated. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p039.jpg) [Handwritten in the rop right corner] Redwater Fight 12/18/76 5—1142 DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR UNITED STATES INDIAN SERVICE Poplar, Mont. May 2nd, 1919. Mr. W. M. Camp. 7740 Union Ave. Chicago, Illinois. Dear Mr. Camp: I received your letter of the 29th inst., and pleased to hear from you. I am going over on the Yellowstone River the eight of this month and will try and find out if there are any ranches close to this battlefield. I hardly think there are as there is a very bad piece of bad lands where the fight took place. At that time I was the only scout that General Baldwin had with him. On the morning of December 18th, 1876 while camped on a branch of the Red Water, General Baldwin sent for me to report to him at his tent. After reporting he said "Joe, I want you to be made a scout ahead of the command and see if you can see any fresh Indians signs. After riding fifteen or twenty miles in the bad lands I discovered the camp of Sitting Bull. I returned to the Commander and made my report to the general. About four or five o'clock in the afternoonthe fight took place.The general captured the entire camp, a large number of horses and mules.We had with us a little Mountain Howitser pulled by two mules. It did good work right in the hotest of the fight. I rode up to the General and said to him"General, you are going to get us all killed in these bad lands". He turned around in his saddle and said to me, "Joe, who is running this command, you or me.After the fight he had a great laugh over what I had said to him. I was in three fights that winter with the general. I was Major Elges chief scout in the winter of 1880 when he captured Chief Gall and his entire camp. I know E. H. Allison well, he scouted with me in 1880 and 81. My father built old Fort Benton in 1832. He also built old Fort Union at the mouth of the Yellowstone along in the same years. I am sending you a paper with a little sketch of my father's life. I served under General Lloyd Wheaton ten years as his Chief Scout at Fort Buford, N.D., and Poplar, Montana. General Wheaton lives in Chicago on Pine Grove, Avenue. Will tell you more when we meet. Hope to hear from you soon. Yours very truly, Joseph. Culbertson Sr. Official Interpreter ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p040.jpg) P.S. I am also enclosing a letter from General Baldwin which I would ask that you return with the paper containing the sketch about my father. Also find enclosed a picture of myself which I am going to ask that you have a cut made and return the cut and picture to me, with the above and also bill for the cut and I will remit immediately. Thanking you, I am Your friend, Joseph Culbertson Sr. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p041.jpg) REGINALD T. HURDLE CIVIL ENGINEER A. M. AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CIVIL ENGINEERS SURVEYOR FOR DAWSON COUNTY DAWSON COUNTY MAPS, TOWNSITE AND TOWNSHIP PLATS PHONE---CITY HALL, 247-R RESIDENCE, 208-R-1 GLENDIVE, MONTANA May, 3, 1919. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir; In reply to yours of 4/25/19. beg to say that I will be glad to furnish you a map showing the location of the rifle pits on Ash Creek and all of the information I can gather. I expect to be in that locality in a few days and will take a few photographs and make a sketch of the pits. Will forward same to you as soon as possible. Yours truly, Reg. T. Hurdle [Handwritten under the signature] Reg. T. Hurdle ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p042.jpg) Inq Redwater Creek ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p043.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., June 1, 1919. Mrs. Louise Huggins, Millboro, S. Dak. Dear Madam:-- I wonder if you can tell me the name of the father of Charlie Gerue, the interpreter at Ft. Laramie (Maga Wakpa) when you were a young woman? Or can you give me the name and address of any of Gerue's family? If so I will thank you for the favor. Nitakola, (Wicoti) ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p044.jpg) [Printed Label at the top of the page] State of Iowa Adjutant General's Department Des Moines June 5, 1919. W. M. Camp 7740 Union Ave. Chicago. Dear Comrade— In response to your inquiry of June 4 in regard to re-union of the 7th Iowa Vol. Cav. I bear to say that it is not known at this office who or where the Adjutant of the association is. or when and where the next Reunion of the survivor of the regiment will be. The following are known names and addresses of three members of the 7th [--] Cav: Andrew A. Grove, Hereford, Ore, John P. Albertson, Moulton, Iowa. G. H. Smith, Kas. City, Mo. 505 Fidet Inst Cordially Yours T.L. Stephens War Record Clerk ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p045.jpg) June 5, 1919. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago. Ill. Dear Sir: Replying to your favor of 3rd inst. I have no information as to any organization or re-union of the survivors of the 11th Ohio Cavalry in the Civil War. The following are the names and addresses of soldiers who served in that regiment: John aAllen- Memorial Hall, Columbus, Ohio. James Flannigan - Mandan, North Dakota. I would suggest that you communicate with them on the subject. Very respectfully, Roy E. Layton Roy E. Layton, The Adjutant General of Ohio. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p046.jpg) 1402 16th St., N. W., Washington, D.C., June 26, 1919. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. Dear Sir: Your letter of inquiry just received. Re- plying thin[--] would state that the Combs Printing company of St. Joseph, Missouri, were the pub- lishers of my "Life and Adventures of Frank Grouard," and I think you can rescue a copy by addressing the firm. It was published in 1894. Frank Grouard is dead, news of which went came to me through a newspaper clipping several years ago. He was a wonderful man. If you will consult files of the Chicago dailies (especially the Times under Story) you will satisfy yourself on this point. He was shamefully heated by the government—John Finnerty in his "Warpath and Bivouac" pays him deserved praise. It has been a number of years since I left Wyoming, but I held a warm spot in my heart for the state, destined, I think, to be the richest in this country. Am sorry we did not meet. I made two ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F26_B2_F4_p047.jpg) 2 personal calls at your D[---] street office besides writing you a letter. Shall probably be in Chicago this fall, and would be pleased to meet and talk with you. I always stop at the Morrison. If you change address, inform me, so that I may make an effort to find you when next I visit the Windy City. Sincerely yours, Jos. De Barthe. DeBarthe ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p001.jpg) Columbus, Neb., July 5, 1919. Dear sir: Answering your inquiry of July 2: The Columbus Times was bought by the Journal Publishing Co., Columbus, Neb., but we anticipate that the files were destroyed. Per- haps complete files of the paper were kept by the State Historical Society, Lincoln, Neb., but we seriously doubt whether a complete file for 1896 is now in existence. The Columbus Telegram. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p002.jpg) [There are three stamps in the top right corner. One says the following] COLUMBUS JUL 5 630 PM NEBR [Stamp in the middle of the page] THIS SIDE OF CARD IS FOR ADDRESS W. M. Camp 7440 Union Ave Chicago, Ill. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p003.jpg) Baltimore July 7 1919. Dear Sir, In reply to your request for information, I send you a reply of the remarks in red ink on My Husbands first Discharge papers. This Soldier was with his Company in a engagment with hostile Indians, number 2,000 at the Pliney near Ft Philip Kearny D T. on wish he was wounded, August 2, 1867 left thigh, for a Period of 5 hours. The Indian were repulsed with a terrible loss. Took part in other skirmieshes. Indeed my Husband often spoke of that Battle and told me that the Hill was blak with Indians, but the had the new Living field Riffles and could shoot so much quiker then Indians with their old rifles, and the ha[---]ooll Soldiers kept them back until reanforcement came from the fort, He also spoke of Captain Powell ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p004.jpg) He was in the Skirmish with the Indians we [--] made the massacre of Phil Kaerny He was with the wood wagen wen the Indians attocked them, but the repulsed them, and he told me, that the Indians went over the Hill and attacked the Soldiers wi[--] were with the Woter wagen and killed ever one, 67 Men, Wen the came bak with the woool in the evening, there was wagenful of dead soldeers. He and others had to dig a big Grave on his first Christmass in the Armee, no wonder he never forget it. jes them old Soldiers had the fight for their lives with them red man, the really opened the west for Civelesation. How I have to exuss myself for bad spelling, you see I never went to school in this graet land, I am a. German born and had to learn it the best I could so please excuse me. respektfull Mrs Wilhelmina Sommers 1417 Hill St. Bochto M [-] ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p005.jpg) [The following printed in the top left corner] HOMESTAKE MINING COMPANY LEAD, SOUTH DAKOTA July 9, 1919 Mr. W. M Camp Chicago Ill Dear Sir My old Comrad Mr Schutze giving this Letter to me for a answer. Mr Schutze cam to the Regt in 1884 and say'd did not no many of the Men that belonged to F Troop at that time and dont no any of F. Troops Add as he has lost Trak of them Mr Schutze and myself will gladly give you the Add of any old Comrad if we hear of one Yours Chas. A Windolph Lead S. Dak in Soldiers Home in Washington is Henry Mechling and another old Comrad we [---] to call him Blondy do not regulect his M[illegible deletion] Nam if the History is out please inform me as I want 3 Books C. A. W. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p006.jpg) PENDLE Hylebos, P.O. July 14 1919. W. M. Camp. Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir:- Received your letter and will answer your questions to the best I recollect. Besides Spencer and Lange there was Sargent James T. Reilly who was shot in the heel of his foot and William Shields. I was not in the battle proper as I was Hospital nurse taking care of the sick and wounded on the Steamer Far West. Which was laying at the month of the Little Bighorn at the time of the fight. Henry Miller, John G. Kimm and Sargent Murphy, I dont remember being with the Company but I would not say for sure. Latrobe Bromwell must be one of the recruits that was send us after the fight. William H. Chapman and John Cassella I dont remember at all. Harry Abbotts, David Ackison, John James, John M Kenna ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p007.jpg) Frank O'Toole, William Reese were with General G. A. Custer I am almost sure that Harry Abbotts was orderly for Dr. De Wolf. I know he was when we left Fort Totten. I dont know who was orderly for Dr. Porter. The only men from F. Company that I know was Major Reno. permant orderly by the name of Devlin. There was only 5 or 6 of us came back except what was with the wagon train. And those 3 or 4 men what was left behind in Fort A. Lincoln taking care of the Co. garden, but dont remember there names. Respectfully, Mr. Chris Pendle Hylebos. P.O. Wash. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p008.jpg) [The following printed at the top of the page] JOHNSTON R. BOYD WYOLA, MONTANA Aug. 4, 1919. W. M. Camp. Chicago Ill. Dear Mr. Camp—: Herb left the enclosed Night Letter on my desk asking that it be sent you by the first person going to Wyola. As I am taking a friend of mine from the Rosebud up in the Mountains in the morning for a few days. Ill mail the telegram and trust you get it promptly. Would certainly be glad to hear that you and General Scott were coming out & will try and see that the packs dont slip or that you are set afoot by Two Bears or La Forge. Sergt. Gibson and your lady friend "Historian"?? from Wyoming are going to build monument on ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p009.jpg) proper site of the Wagon Box fight. They put on a big show last week. I saw in the Sheridan Post that this would definately settle the "Controversy". Mrs. Boyd and the children are all well as ever and the drought has not caused me to loose much sleep altho Herb & I were hit pretty hard on Beaver Creek Ranch. There is to be a big land sale on the 15th of Sept. at Crow Agency & a lot of fire land is listed. Better figure on looking it over as some fine opportunities will be open for most any sized piece you could want. Lets hear from you soon. Sincerely. F. R. Boyd. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p010.jpg) FRED HANS Hatcreek, Wyo. Aug. 5-1919 Hao Kola:— Dear Mr Camp, yours of 19th inst. Raed few days ago. Will be pleased to meet you here & will do all I can for you in Whatever trips you desire to make from this point. I am 22 ms, north east of Hatcreek Can come out from Lusk Wyo. on stage to my mail box 1 mile west of the Black rail oil well. I am field manager for the Company will manage to get required time to assist you few days, as my son here can handle this business in my absence Raspectfully Fred M Hans ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p011.jpg) Inq Hat Creek ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p012.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Aug. 18, 1919. Mr. Fred M.Hans, Hatcreek, Wyo. Dear Mr. Hans:-- Your letter of 5th inst. was duly received, and it is with much regret that I must tell you the unexpected has happened. I had ex- pected before this to be on my vacation, but one my associate editors is a member of the National Guard, and he was called out to help put down the race riots, leaving us short-handed and knocking me out of my vaca- tion this year altogether. I am feeling much cut up over this matter, as it is the first time since 1903 that I have missed spending my vacation in the West, always part of the time on some one or more of the reservations. It seems quite a while to be looking a year ahead, but if I do not slip up on my calcula tions I will have double time next year on vacation, and will go out with my car, and thus be able to get around conveniently. I will surely look you up then, as there are several things that I want to get down in definite shape and I think you will be just the man to give me the proper steer. I have mentioned some of these to you al- ready, and another is to get the landmarks on the old Black Hills trail or stage coach line from Laramie and Sidney to the Hills. Nitakola, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p013.jpg) UNITED STATES RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION DIRECTOR GENERAL OF RAILROADS CHICAGO AND NORTH WESTERN RAILROAD PASSENGER DEPARTMENT 226 WEST JACKSON STREET C.A. CAIRNS, GENERAL PASSENGER AGENT J. L. FERGUSON, ASSISTANT GENERAL PASSENGER AGENT M. R. LEAHY, ASSISTANT GENERAL PASSENGER AGENT CHICAGO August 19, 1919 REFER TO FILE 25-68 Mr. W. M. Camp, Editor, Railway Review, 537 So. Dearborn St., Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir; Answering yours of August 18th. The book giving the origin of names of stations on the Chicago and North Western Railroad was published in 1908, but we regret to advise that at this time the supply is exhausted. We are giving below, however, the explanation of the name of the station at Gordon, Nebr. "Gordon. Sheridan County, Nebraska, was platted by the Pioneer Town Site Company in 1885, and was named for John Gordon of Sioux City, who undertook to take a train of wagons into the Black Hills, when that country was still a part of the Indian reservation, and closed to white settlers. He was overtaken at a point four or five miles from where this station now is, by a lieutenant in command of a detachment of U. S. cavalry. Gordon's oxen were turned loose, and wagons and freight piled in a heap and burned - for which, the lieutenant was afterwards dismissed from the service." Yours truly, CA Cairns G. P. A. B ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p014.jpg) Ainsworth Nebr Aug 27th 1919 W M Camp 7740 Union Ave Chicago Ills Dear Sir You at hand and in ripley will say that 2 was with Co "7" 27th Inftry When they went to Relieve Capt Pauells Co at the Wood Camp Aug 2nd 1867 and 2 will send you[-] a rough SR teli of the Fort and often rant of his relief they was[---] near the creek for they suffered all day for Water and they near [---] down their Corrall ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p015.jpg) was a little west of the end of the ridge the men killed with the capt was Lieut Jenns Thomas Doyle and Henry Haggerty of Newark New Jersey the home of Sergt Webster. I do not remember as he retired to the post during the night. No other books [---] sent and [---] to Camp after the fight any further use, I can be to you I will be only to glad to comply I will send you a slip I cut from a paper he was not there for all of "C" Co was there and the wood choppers that man Gibin belayed to the 18" Infantry and was ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p016.jpg) not News the Fort Reno On Powder River there Should be no trouble to Generate the aproval by following our route on the ridge I wish I could see you personally then I could explain it better then I can write hoping that this letter may be of some service to you I remain yours Very Truly W H Magiel ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p017.jpg) Ainsworth Kiln Aug 27-19 W.M. Camp Chicago Ills Dear Sir, in regard to the slim Butte fight will say that the infantry didn't have any lines and 2 did not attnd any Cir[--]ts and only remember Seeing them digging a grave on a picket line after taking the [---] a way after dark we was only a short distance a way when White was killed there was a Wickey up North of the Valley that the Indians had Sent ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p018.jpg) wounded in from the Custin fight- and one or two dead. I do not know any thing about any soldiers being buried there I am glad some one is interring them selves to mark the Ser[---] of the regular army for that is all they will [illegible] get for building up the great West Very Respectfully W N Magill ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p019.jpg) [Hand-drawn map with the following labels, from top to bottom] West Mountans Seqt[---]bbon South Little Piny Capt Powell Flat North Big Piny Ridge Big Flat o[-]r Route to Powell Big hill gate Fort gate Canal gate East ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p020.jpg) Crow Agency Montanta Aug 27 1919 My dear Camp: I have been feeling badly at not seeing you before coming out here- I arranged to spend Sunday in Chicago for that purpose I went to La Salle hotel Aug [illegible] 2nd and felt so badly I had to stay in my room all day from a cold caught in the train to Syracuse from which I have not yet quite recovered - I looked this the directory for your number but forgot your initials- there were about 20 Camps & feeling as I did had not the energy to pursue the matter - I find you have many friends in this Country. Last night Mr Boyd & Thomson came in & told me of your visit & [---] of the Phil Hearny site which you had already told ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p021.jpg) we- they invited me to go to the medicine wheel where they took you but I am going to Le Forge this afternoon at Wyola & doubt if I will have the time to go farher. I had a great time a few days ago with Curly Whiteman was him & Russill WhiteBear as interpreter Frank Thackery late superviorsr Interier Dept and Boggers Chief clerk of the agency- we went as far as the nest on the divide at head of Dave creek - I have been wanting to see for 43 years - it made a great impression as the live outfare [---] Var[---] & well it way. Curly was very sulky & when White [---] [---] him was talking made a lot of signs behind his back that he was telling many lies- but I believe the shoe was on the other foot - it is a case of thrice against one - a goes ahead is dead & suppose you scum - ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p022.jpg) Day before yesterday I got hold of the man woman & had a heart to heart talk which killed many old unanswered questions in my mind if I go next to the Cheyenne Agency & there to Standing Roen in the [---] friends gave me your address & I will look you up on my way home- I feel better about not seeing you before since Thompson said he had heard from you that you [---] not come out this summer Sincerely yours H. S. Scott ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p023.jpg) Gen. H. L. Scott, Sept. 5, 1919. Gen. H. L. Scott, Ft. Yates, N. Dak. My Dear General:- I have received your interesting letter from Crow Agency and am glad to learn of all you write me of what you saw and experienced there. The "Crows' Nest" is worth going to see, as one of the relay points where the Crows concealed horses while enroute to the Crow country after stealing them from the Sioux, as they were much in the habit of doing, you know. From that point they could survey a big stretch of country, and it was the six Crows with Custer who proposed he go there to ascertain if the Sioux were on the Little Bighorn. I presume you saw the brass marker that I planted two years ago at the point where Custer crossed the divide. It is right down under the Crows' Nest, 4700 feet to the west, Next year I am going to place a similar marker, on top of the Crows' Nest. I am pleased to learn that you met my friends among the Crows, and I hope you got to see a Forge, and a trip into the moun- tains. I regret that you did not find me when on your way out, so that I could have helped you to fix up "medicine" for your trip among the Crows. It happened that I was at home all day, on both of the days that you mention being in Chicago -- Aug. 2 and 3 -- and if you had looked for my name in the telephone directory and called me I would have "come a running." Now when you get here on your way back call me up at the Railway Review office, 537 South Dearborn St. (only 1 1/2 blocks from the post office) during business hours, or call in person; and after business hours I can be found at , Telephone, Stewart 1466. I presume you will visit Mr. Ayer's collection, in the Newberry Library. I wish you could let me know in advance, about what time you expect to be here. I have not been able to visit the reservations this year, the first time I have missed since 1903. One of our editorial staff had to join the militia to assist in putting down the race riots, and for that reason I got no vacation. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p024.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Sept.8,1919. Mr George Stover, Martin, S. Dak. My Dear Judge Stover:-- Last year I showed you and Clarence Three Stars an old group photograph, taken at Fort Laramie, in 1868, about the time that the famous treaty was made there with the Sioux and Other plains Indians. In seeking to identify various members of this group you and Clar- encs agreed that a certain one of the group, with sideburn whiskers, was J.S. Collins, whom you said was the stenographer of the Commission in mak- ing the treaty. In some[illegible type over word] recent researches among documents I found the name of Geo. B.Willis mentioned at the official stenographer ("phonographer") of the Commission on that occasion. I am now wondering, therefore, if, in case you and Clarence are right about the identity of J.S.Collins, in the pho- tograph, whether therr may have been two stenographers present; or, could it be that you got names confused? May I ask, further, if you happen to know anything about the man Willis? I find that he signed the treaty as one of the witnesses, using the official title "Phonographer to the Commission". Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p025.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Sept.9,1919. Arthur H. Clark Co., Publishers, Cleveland, Ohio. Gentlemen:-- Will you please quote us your list price and discount that can be allowed us on "Indian Tribes of the Upper Mississippi Valley and Region of the Great Lakes", by Emma Helen Blair. Yours truly, Railway Review Publishing Co., Editor. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p026.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Sept.9,1919. Charles Scribners' Sons, New York City. Gentlemen:-- Will you please quote us the regular list prices and dis- counts that you can allow us on the books mentioned below:-- "Beyond the Old Frontier", by George Bird Grinnell. "History of the Hudson's Bay Co., by Geo. Bryce. Yours respectfully, Railway Review Publishing Co., Editor. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p027.jpg) George Stover U.S. COMMISSIONER NOTARY PUBLIC Hot Springs MARTIN S. D.. Sept 13th 1919 W.M Camp Chicago Ill My Dear Sir your favor of the 8th Just at hand and I not the Information you wnt. Now there has been misunderstanding In regart to the Statement of Myself And C T Starts Gov B Williams was the official Slonagrapher On this Comission but J S Collins was Excepter by the commission to take the hold Proceddings of the 68 Treaty And the Same was done and Compaird At the End of the Council but thare is Evidence thot the Commissions Coppy was changed After the Council was Ajourned, Callans Coppy as I am told so now In the hands of Some Rose Bud Indians In So Dak hoping that this will clear this matter as I Am located now at Hot Spring In the Black Hills whare I expict to live in the Future ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p028.jpg) George Stover NOTARY PUBLIC U.S. COMMISSIONER Martin, S. D., ____________________191___ but I am often in Martin Whare you saw me when you was hear Three Stars is still living near Martin I hav sold my Property In Martin And Bought in Hot Springs If You Ever Came Our way agane would be pleasd to hav you call on me With Kind Regards And All Good Wishes Yours Truley George Stover ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p029.jpg) Plymouth Ohio Sept 17th 1919 W. M. Camp Esgn. Dear Sir: 9 Joseph Way a Private of Captain F. W. Benteen Company H. of the 7th Regiment of Cavalry. enlisted the 27th day of December 1869 to serve Five years. was discharged from the Army of the United States in consequence off Expiration of Term of Service_ was discharged on the 27th day of December 1874 with Excellent Character. if thhere any other comrade in the west that served in the 7th US then please let me know Yours Truly Joseph W. Way Box 234. Plymouth Ohio please send me all the names of all the comrades that help to The min the Indian Wars in the West I have Charles Windolph address the other names are not very plain I would appreciate your sending them to me as we are trying to have our widows receive the same Penson ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p030.jpg) Pomona Calif. Sept- 18th 1919 Mr. W. M. Camp - Dear sir Received your card Today. yes I served in co. 9 2nd N.S. bar from 1866 to 1869- initiated al- Ft Leavenworth Kansas July 1866 . we marched from There to what was Then Dakota Territory that fall Bundt The Post Known as Fort Sanders. That winter in may 1867. a part of our Co- was Detailed to all as escort for Surveyors surveying for N. P. R. R. May 6th had one man Killed by Indians on May 12th one of Surveyors Killed by Indians on July 22nd small party with cheif Engineer was out looking for water was attacked by about forty Indians Cheif Engineer Killed and we lost all our Horses and Supplys. That was all of our losses that summer. Returned to JA Sanders in fall - The Summer of 1868 was granding graders along line of RR in Post That winter. Spring and Summer in Post at JA mcPherson Nebraska I did not serve with. The bahi gordon you spoke about our officers in 1866-1867 and 1868 was left- Lewis merrill first- find- O. O. g. Robinson Second LA- W H Wanders 1869- Lapi- april adams. any other information I can give you will be pleased to give I Remain yours Truly W. E. Brown 383. & 4th st- Pomona Calif ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p031.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Sept.15,1919. Col. E.H.Marks, Office of Chief of Engineers, U.S.A., Washington, D.C. Dear Sir:-- If you have in your files maps of the Military Reservations of Forts Phil Kearny and Reno, Dakota (now Wyoming) for any of the years 1866-68 or later, please quote me prices on blue print or other copies of the same. I am particularly anxious to obtain a map showing thelocation of an engagement fought Aug.2,1867, near Fort Phil Kearny, commonly known as the Wagon Box fight. It occurred some four or miles west or northwest of the fort.If this map is available I would like to know the price of it also. I desire all of these maps for historical purposes. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p032.jpg) 7740 Union Ave Chicago 9/14/19 Mr. W. R. Dickerson Custir, Neb. Dear Sir: - Some years ago I noticed your name in the National Tribune in con- nection with the unveiling of the mov- ment through the site of the battle of Whitestone Hill. May I ask you near what town or railroad station this monument stands, how far and in what direction? May I also ask you if you can refer me to any historical accounts of the battle that you consider au- thentic, either as published in books or newspapers or magazines. Were you a participant, and have you ever written an account of your recollection of it? I will explain that very interest in this subject is purely historical, and will thank you for such information as you may be willing to give me. Yours truly W. M. Camp. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p033.jpg) DVS National Soldiers Home Togus Main Sept 19-19 Mr. Camp Dear Sir Your letter recd in due season quite a surprise. in answer to your question I was not on The Yellowstone in 76 had re- enlisted was on Recruiting Service under Lieut Henry W Lawton afterwards Gen Lawton killed in The Phillipines. I joined the 5th Cavalry in Jan 77 at Fort DA Russell Cheyenne Wyo, was on Nez Perce Campaign Barrnoaks Northern Cheyennes and Utes in Colorado What was called the Meeker Massacre Oct 79 m any information ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p034.jpg) you may require and that I can give I will cheerfull do so while in The 22d Infantry I was on two expiditions to the Yellowstone and beyond escort for the Engineers who surveyed the Northern in 1873 Gen Custer was with us and had engagements with Indians we followed the Yellowstone as Far as Pompeys Pillar The struck the Baker Trail to the Muscle Shell River followed it down for three days Gen Stanley commanded the expidition, the first expiditions was in 71 under Mayor J. N. G. Whisler, hoping you are w good succes with your Book I am yours etc Arthur B Bingham ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p035.jpg) (Written on the top but upsidedown) The national Tribune can give you what you want to know about this White Stone Monument Curtis Neb Sept 22 - 1919. Mr. W M Camp Chicago Ill. My Dear sir _ Yours recd Contents noted I have bin trying to find out just where the Monument of the Whitestone Hill Battle is located, But no one in my town can tell me - I read a few years ago in the National Tribune of the Unveili- ng of the Monument, But was not their, It is in North Dakota I am almost sure, I was a soldier in the Civil war, and served time in 1863 and 64 in that country after Setting Bull and Sioux Tribe, I served in Company A, 2nd Neb Calvary, I was a Scout whilst serving in that country, might give you a little [---] of our doings if you have not got it. We were ordered to St. Louis in April 1864 got as far a Sou City, The Indians came in where we were in Went [---] and kill five children, We were ordered back, went to Fort Randall, In October 64 we were ordered to Ontario, other troops took our place, The Battle of Whitestone Hill was fought after we left there. Ever Yours W. R. Dickerson ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p036.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Sept.26,1919. Dear Sir:-- I have planned to start on a trip to Denver next Tuesday night, Sept. 30, and will make a side trip from Newton to see you and talk over the days of the frontier times. I should get to Canton, by way of the Kansas City, Mexico &nOrient R.R., at 2:28, on Thursday, Oct. 2. I do not know the schedule of the stage, but if it goes out that same after- noon I should get to Seiling that night of Oct.2. I hope that I shall find you at home, and if there are any of the old Cheyennes living near you I would like to have a talk with some of them also . I have often talked with the Northern Cheyennes about their fighting days. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p037.jpg) September 27, 1919. Mr. Walter J. Bortz, Bradley Road, Bayview Village, P.O. Avon-on-the-Lake, Ohio. My Dear Mr. Bortz: Your letter of July 9th was duly re- ceived and I note that you have bought a home and tied yourself down. My convention time in Cleveland will be the three days October 21, 22 and 23, at the Statler Hotel, but it will hardly be possible for me to make my home with you during those days, as you so kindly invite me to do. Of course, I expect to call on you, but I will have to aim to do that either after the con- vention is over or by absenting myself from one of the evening sessions or evening entertainments, which I am usually glad to do, as I have attended so many affairs of that kind that they really bore me. I look forward with much pleasure to the opportunity of meeting you and Mrs. Bortz again. In regard to my convention work, I am under the necessity of attending two sessions each day, and mail- ing off the same evening my report of the proceedings, in order to be able to publish it during the same week, and this keeps me busy until late in the evening sometime. I think the old Indian whom you refer to is a Chippewa, whose picture we have hanging in our Engineers' Club. He was said to be 102 years old last week year, when the chief engineer of the Chicago Milwaukee & St. Paul Ry. presented his picture to the club. With kind regards to Mrs. Bortz as well as your- self, I am Yours truly, WMC-S. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p038.jpg) geo sliney State of Wyoming Big Horn Hot Springs Reserve _________ Thermopolis Wyo. October 5th 1919. [FRED E. HOLDREGE SUPERINTENDENT] W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave. , Chicago, Ill. My dear Sir: With reference to your letter of September 28, I knew Private Kennedy and Private Wenzell of the Fifth Cavalry, and also White, or "Buffalo Chips" the Scout-White better than the others, having served with him on the plains before my regiment went for service in Arizona, '71 to '75. My recollection is, that the graves of the soldiers were located at the point indicated by you. I was on the firing line at the time they were buried, but, as we were leaving camp the next morning, the location of the graves was pointed out to me. There was nothing to indicate them. They were entirely level with the ground, and horses had been ridden over them with the purpose of destroying all trace, as it is well known that the Indians dig up the dead for the purpose of scalping. White, I think, was taken to the Scout camp near the pack train, and, I think, buried from there. I believe you are safe in assuming that the two skeletons found are those of the enlisted men above referred to. I knew General Mills very well when he was a captain. Trust that this information will answer the purpose. Sincerely yours, GMS SLD M Sling FMB ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p039.jpg) 5-1142 DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR UNITED STATES INDIAN SERVICE Pineridge S. D. Oct 15th 1919. Mr [---] 7740 Union ave. Chicago Ill: My Dear Friend: - Yours dated Sept 28, 1919, came to hand and found me and family, and wife all well and the people you know, my reason for not answering you sooner was account of Frank C. Garings, who has been sick with the Flu, and just returned Saturday where he was taking treatment took sick Sept 14" and just when to work yesterday he has had leg, but is well and feeling fine, he has been at Chadron most all this time ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p040.jpg) 5-1142 DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR UNITED STATES INDIAN SERVICE only 2 case of the Flu on the entierety Reservation. That was also Goings and Franks, we havent had no snow yet only a little snow rather sleet, things are moving about the same as ever yes if I could get off I would not mind going but it is hard to get off, some time, this is all best wishes to now good bye. Your friend Will Garnett P. S. Hello [---], I had quit a Time with the Flu. Three Doctars waiting on me and Give me to much dope I [--] it when down my right leg, it swell big as a saw log but is down. Now am at Chadron just [---] Satday best wishes yours truly Femes, CS ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p041.jpg) JOHN L. BIRD VICE PRESIDENT CITIZENS NATIONAL BANK PAWHUSKA, OKLA. October Seventeen, Nineteen Nineteen. Mr. A. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Dear Mr. Camp: Answering your letter of the 9th instant in regard to the whereabouts of John D. Miles, ex- Indian Agent, will say that if you will communicate with Frank March, % Merchants National Bank, Lawrence, Kansas, you can get all the in- formation in regard to Mr. Miles. Mr. March is a son-in-law of Mr. Miles. Very truly, John L. Bird JLB-AFW. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p042.jpg) 7740 Union Ave Chicago, Ill, Oct 19, 1919. Supt Cheyenne Indian Reservation Darlington, Okla. Dear Sir:- For historical information I would like to write to Jack or "Jock" Bull Bear, son of Old Chief Bull Bear of the Cheyennes. If he is living on your reservation would you kindly give me his post office address and oblige Yours truly W. M. Camp. INDORSEMENT Mr. Camp: While Jock roams about a great deal, is never stationary for any great length of time, it is presumed that a letter addressed to him in care of Superintendent Jesse W. Smith, Colony, Oklahoma, will reach him. Very respectfully, W. W. SCOTT, Superintendent By CW Buckman F.Clk. Cheyenne & Arapaho Agency, Concho, Oklahoma, October 22, 1919. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p043.jpg) Cantonment Indian Agency Canton, Oklahoma October 22, 1919. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. Dear Sir: The Indian Jock Bull Bear about whom you inquire is reported to be in Canton at the present for a few days and a note has been sent directing him to write you. He is enrolled at the Seger Indian Agency, Colony, Oklahoma. Colony is his post office address. Very truly yours, C. Coggeshoel DM Superintendent. C. Coggeshoel ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F27_B2_F5_p044.jpg) October 24, 1919. W. M. Camp, Esq. Editor, Railway Review Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir: On September 16 we had the pleasure of quoting you a set of Blair's Indian Tribes of the Upper Mississippi Valley and Region of the Great Lakes at $10.00 less 1/6, in answer to your inquiry of September 9. We have not as yet heard from you in regard to our quotation and if you desire a set at the price quoted, we would advise you to place your order with us at once. We are now binding the few remaining copies, prices of which will be advanced thereon or about November 1, to $12.50 net. Yours respectfully, THE ARTHUR H. CLARK CO. WDR:FBP. W. D. R. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p001.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Nov. 12, 1919. Mr. Frank Chapman, Seiling, Okla. Dear Sir:-- I am returning to you the newspaper clipping giving Bat Mast erson's account of the Buffalo Wallow fight, in which your father partic- ipated, and which you loaned me when I visited you briefly last month. I have taken notes from it and filed them away. I enjoyed my visit with your father very much, and gained a good deal of information about the fighting in the Panhandle country. ought not to be so modest about having the site of that Wallow fight He dis- covered. The people in Canadian will put up a brass tablet to mark the spot if it can be found. I hope you will agitate him in the matter until he will consent to go over there and hunt up the place. I think I will make another try, myself, to get him to go, the next time I can get off to go down your way, and I might do this next year. With best regards to all of you, I remain Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p002.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Nov.13, 1919. Sergt. M. E. Urell, Box 171, Carson, N.D ak. Dear Sir:-- Both of your letters of Sept. 21 and Oct. 20 were received at my home in my absence, which accounts for my delay in replying. I thank you for the information that you have given me concerning the killing of Lieuts. Adair and Crosby by Indians, near Big Heart Butte, in 1873. If you can give me anything as to the circumstances under which they met, their fate I would like to have that information also. You ask me if I know any one on a Chicago newspaper named Reid. I do not know any such man, and have called up the newspapers, but can find no one who spells his name in that way. On the staff of the Daily News there are two men named "Reed", one of these being Charles Reed and the other George W. Reed. Could either of these men be the one whom you are looking for? Some companies of the 17th Infantry went as far as the mouth of Powder river with Gen. Terry, on the expedition of 1876, and remained there in camp while Custer, with the 7th Cavalry went on to the Little Bighorn. I wonder if you were with this battalion that camped at the mouth of the Powder, on the Yellowstone, that summer? If so, can you tell me anything about the reported finding of a dead soldier and dead horse near the Rosebud, in early August of that year. Was there any such a find, and about where was it, how far up the stream? on which side? and how far from the stream? And to what command was it thought this man belonged? I will thank you for any information on this matter that you may have. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p003.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Nov. 17, 1919. Postmaster, Powderville, Mont. Dear Sir:-- One night in September, 1865, in a big snow and sleet storm, and expedition against Indians, on Powder River, lost more than 400 horses that died at the picket ropes, from cold and starvation. For historical purposes I would like to know where this occured. If you have heard any of the early settlers tell of having seen the re- mains of these horses or of the many wagons, saddles, harness, etc. that were burned, to prevent them from falling into the hands of the Indians, I will thank you to give me the name and address of the ranch on which the site of this affair may now be found. Or can you refer me to and old settler of your locality who may know about the matter? Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p004.jpg) Turkey Track Ranch Amarillo, Tex. Nov. 19, 1919 Adobe Walls, Texas Mr. W.M. Camp Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir:- Your letter of Nov. 3rd, duly received and as I have been out to the ranch for some time have neglected to answer same. I would be very glad to assist in any way to mark the Adobe Walls Battle Ground, Which is about a mile north of the old Adobe Walls, If you can secure the brass cap with the proper inscription to be bolted to a concret block as you suggest I would be very gald to furnish the concrete and place as near as possible as you will direct. I would think the concrete block would be preferable on account of cattle would be rubbing the gas pipe where it extended three or four feet above the ground, However we have a plenty of gas pipe around the ranch and if you deem it more suitable I ould place it as suggested instead of the concrete. I think this should be bone and I know that it would furnish Mrs. Dixon a great deal of satisfaction. I am, Yours truly, W. T. Coble ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p005.jpg) Oliver Iron Mining Company, Western Mesabi District Hibbing, Minn 12/5/19 M. H. Godfrey, District Manager My dear Mr. Camp:- Your favor of recent date mentioning the death of our mutual friend Maj. Juo. R. Brennau came some days ago and was pleased to hear from you tho I regretted very much Moj. Breman's death. I learned of the death of Maj Breman the day after our little visit at the Oliver Hotel and attempted to find you to advise you of some however you had left our city. I learned at the same time of the death of two other pioneers - men very closely connected with Indian history, Frank Stewart who ran the Commistary at Pine Ridge for the Government up to about 1886 and J.H. Chase a well known merchant of the Black Hills - Deadwood, Rapid City, Sturgis Belle Fourche and Hot Springs - quite a collector of Indian Relics and leading advocate of intrusive farming methods in that semi arid country. I wrote to my mother concerning Calamity Jane and her photograph - she advises me as Mr. R.B. Hughes advised you that this notorious woman died in Belle Fourche - a beggar - and was buried in Deadwood beside "Wild Bill" Hickory ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p006.jpg) Oliver Iron Mining Company Western Mesabi District Hibbing. Minn. M. H. Godfrey District Manager Concerning the picture my mother advises me that she was unable to locate one in Rapid City but ascertained that some were on sale at Max Fischel's Bagaar - Deadwood S. F. Mother's goods are all in Storage and she did not know whether the one of which I spoke was in existence or not. Hoping I may have the pleasure of again writing you - with kind regards, I am, Yours very truly, H. W. Overpeck Overpeck ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p007.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Dec. 13, 1919. Mrs. George Hunt:-- Ft. Totten, N. Dak. Dear Madam:-- I am told that you were the widow of the colored man Isaiah Dorman, who was killed in the battle of the Little Bighorn, in 1876, the same battle in which General Custer was killed. I am writing a history of that battle, and would like to have a photograph of this man "Isaiah", who also, I am told, was interpreter at Ft. Rice when you lived with him. Have you a photograph of him that you could lend me long enough to have a copy made of the same? or can you suggest whom you would think might have a picture of him if you have none? I will thank you for any assistance that you can render me to get a photograph of this man. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p008.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Dec. 13, 1919. Mrs. Ben Clark, Fort Reno, Darlington, Okla. Dear Madam:-- You may recall that I visited Mr. Clark several times to get information from him for a history of the Indian wars in which he served as a scout. The last time I saw him, which was about a year before he died, he told me that he had a scrap book of newspaper clippings that he wished me to see, but he had loaned it to the Quartermaster in command of the station at the time, and would send it to me when it was returned to him. For several years I have overlooked [---] this matter. If you have this book could you send mail it to me to look over, as it contains several newspaper accounts of Mr. Clark that I wish to use in what I shall write of him. If you have not got the book can you tell me where you think it might be found? Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p009.jpg) 5-1142 Department of the Interior United States Indian Service Fort Peck Agency. Poplar, Montana. Dec. 16th, 1919. My dear Mr. Camp. I thank you very much for the cuts. They were fine. I am sending you the money order for the cuts. I am also sending you a paper with a little story about my trip in 1872 to Washington. With kind regards, I am Yours truly, Joseph Culbertson Sr.. Official Interpreter. Box 211 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p011.jpg) Fort Fotten Dec 19.-19 W. M. Camp Dear Sir:- I'll answer your kind letter. I will tell about what have you been asking of a man were killed in the battle of the little Bighorn, in 1876, I was-nt not born The time I'm only 38 years old, but I have hear about The General Custer were kill. I never was hear of The name Little Big horn, ever since I was born I guest some body ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p012.jpg) had mistake about this man. I mean that man told you a bout it. I remain yours sincerely from Mrs Geo. Hunt. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p013.jpg) HOTEL CLAREMONT ON THE EDGE OF THE BERKELEY HILLS BERKELEY, CALIFORNIA Dec.22d.1919 W.M.Camp. [writing sideways on page] 311 California Street. [writing sideways on page] San Francisco Cal. Dear Sir: The following question continues to come up,i,e, Did Gen.Custer in the campaign of 1876 wear his hair long or short. I know that prior to 1874 he wore it very long,in the field, and as a rule was attired in a red shirt,etc,when on a campaign, but when in the Fall of 1874 I met him at Bismarck Dak. he having just returned from the Black Hills expe- dition, and I from the 49th.Parallel expedition,his hair was clipped short, at his wifes request,as his old rig of long hair and red shirt,made him too conspicuous a mark for a stray bullet in a fight. The question is,did he subsequently wear the hair long,and was it so in the Little Big Horn fight. Can you throw any light on this by return mail. Yours truly. U.T.M[----------] ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p014.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Dec.22,1919 Genl. Passenger Agent, Chicago & Northwester Ry., City. Dear Sir:-- I am much interested in the life on Indian Reservations , and for many years have made trips out to the reservations to study the Ind- ians, including several trips over your lines on visits to the Rosebud reservation, Pine Ridge and to Lander. I have been told of a publication of your department, or a series of pamphlets or other publications, entitled "The Indian, The Northwest, The Red Man, The War Man, The White Man and the Chicago & North Western Ry.", or some similar title if the foregoing is not properly arranged. May I ask how long ago this matter was published, and whether a copy of it is still available? Thanking you for any information, I am Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p015.jpg) Mohawk. New York. Dec. 27, 1919- W. M. Camp. Esq. Chicago— Dear Mr. Camp:— Your's of the 24th inst., is received. I have been fortunate enough to find my copy of Capt. Lyman's Report, and also my own notes or diary of the events on the Washita as soon as I can copy them, I will forward them, also a copy of a Photo of myself cut from a magazine. I have not a ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p016.jpg) Photo of Lieut Heneley. I knew him well and served with him just before he was drowned. I do not think he ever had a photo taken after he left West Point. If you could get a picture or drawing or photo of the Antelope Hills which are a few miles East of where Lyman's train was corralled it would be a great attraction to your book. They are the most beautiful collection of buttes I ever saw; ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p017.jpg) and are the only conspicuous landmarks for hundreds of miles— There may be a drawing of them in Abert and Peck's book on their trip down the Canadian River in the 50ies- I have not a copy of this book, but there must be a copy in the War Department Library also in the Congressional Library — I see by Gen. Wills book that you are to write up the War of 1876. I think it would be a grand thing if you would ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p018.jpg) do the same for the Campaigns of 1874 and 5 on the Staked Plains. The Comanches, Kiowas and Cheyennes were all engaged;- and it was their final struggle against the white man- It began at the celebrated "Adobe Walls." The 4th Cav., 9th Cav., 10th Cav 11th Infantry, and our Squadron of the 8th Cav. under St Col Redwood Redwood Price. 8 companies of the 6th Cav and 4 companies of the 5th Infantry took part. It has never been written ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p019.jpg) I would be glad to hear from you and to learn what you think of the enclosed papers. I also sent a picture of myself. Your's very truly, F. West ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p020.jpg) Dear Sir:- We sent as many as five and ten copies of Collins's book to the public librari ries in larger cities and that is probably the only place you can find a copy. We have none and do not know of any individual who might happen tohave it. Respectfully Get initials J.S. NATIONAL PRINTING CO. PRINTERS. PUBLISHERS AND BOOKSELLERS National Bldg., 12th and Harney Sts OMAHA, NEBRASKA ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p021.jpg) [stamp at the top of the envelope] OMAHA 2 DEC 26 8[---] 1919 NEB [stamp in the upper right corner] U. S. POSTAL CARD ONE CENT 1 JEFFERSON 1 This side of card is for address W. M. Camp 7740 Union Ave Chicago, Ill. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p022.jpg) Alonzo Stringham National Mil Home [---] Dec 30th 1919. Mr W.M. Camp; Chicago Illinois. My Dear Friend. your highly appreciated favor of the 25th to hand in due time finds me Located still at the same place ingaged in the same ocupa- tion with considerbly increased Duty, as I have charge of two wards now instead of one. and that along with Personal Business and Int[---] will have to plead for my never having kept my Promis to Write to you, I'm sure you have been often in my mind—and I have all- -ways, Intended to write to you. so your Letter is thrice Wellcome. I can not now recall to memory this man you met in Cleveland Who served in K Co of the 7th Cav at the Verry time I was serving in I. but I may have known him well. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p023.jpg) I had a Sister that lived 20 or more years at Dodge City Since Christmas the Weather has turned in Mild, Warm, and Suney, Days Freezing Verry lightly at nights What do you think of the Current Events transpiring throughout all the World? I think they are Verry significantly Extraordinary, and by all odds, constituting the greatest Crisses Since man's Sojourn upon Earth—the Very rottenness of all Governments Eloquently bespeak a right Early Collapse. the Second Coming of Christ, the annihilation of the Wicked, the Reserection of the Righteous and so fourth &c. I hope Dear Friend that you are giving this matter more than passing notice I sincerely hope that you have or Will make the Heart preperation that will admit you to the Mairiage feast in the New Jerusalem. (see over.) ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p024.jpg) I'll be greatly pleased to meet you if you should Visit our Home again and will strive to collect any importent Indian History Should I run across any. hoping your Christmas Was Verry Injoyable to you, and that the New Year may add to your Happiness and Prosperity Yours Verry Sincerely Alonzo Stringham ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p025.jpg) Colony Okla Nov 30th 1919 Mr W. M. Camp Chicago Ill. Dear friend I received your welcome letter which was dated 20 inst and was very good one to gave me more information on cheives names as it is very hard to find out who they were on this picture I had quite conversation with older people of Cheyennes and Arapahoes about the cheives names, so I will go by these information by the older Indians. it cost me quite sum. to gather these older Indians as for their informations, in old Indian way of their custom. I hope this will give you satisfaction. on names that you wanted to know. I have been made as a one of the principal cheife leader among the Arapahoe tribe for the last 18 years so I have quite lots of business for my people ever since in Washington D.C. which I am known well by many of our congressman in Washington D.C. J.B. Bear ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p026.jpg) [written in the landscape direction] Inq [---] 11 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F28_B2_F6_p027.jpg) I have one picture of myself in some where, in Indian style. I wanted to send it to you some times, when I find it I got some of them in house but They are all enlarge in frames yours Truly J.B.Bear Cheives names on the picture No. 1 Wolf Bounds Back Cheyenne " 2 Sitting Bear Kiowa " 3 White Horse Cheyenne " 4 Singer Arapahoe " 5 White Owl Arapahoe " 6 Bull Bear Arapahoe " 7 Sand Hill Cheif Cheyenne P.S. I hope this will give you some help. I wish you send me one of your books Notes on Track hope to hear from you again soon. J.B.B ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p001.jpg) Ing Ladgegrass Jany 10th 1920 Mr Claug Dear Sir Yours of Dec 25th at hand and in reply will say " Yes I was with that motonous Yellowstone expadition. Yates was buried on the table land between the Little Big Horn and Lodge grass creek about one mile from the mouth of Log grass The circle of riffel pits overlook the valley of the Little ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p002.jpg) Horn We buried yates then dug our rifle pits and threw the dirt from the pits on to his grave so it made a continuous rowe of dirt so the Indian could not finde his grave. His grave is on the west side and I drove down an Iron picket pin in it and covered it about one foot deep with dirt finde that picket pin dig down there and you will finde Yetes dody ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p003.jpg) 3 wrapped in Buffalo rode I am now living in Long Beach Calif and expect to spend the rest of my days here I crossed the Plains in 1868 by ox team to the Yellowstone Valley have lived there and at Sheridan for 48 yrs Was there with Gen. Cro[-]k at the time of the Custer massacre Knew George Herendeem Well have I c[--]ted with him was sorry learn From you of his death I was in ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p004.jpg) of the noted expedile in that country and of there is any thing further you would like to know write me and perhaps I Can give you the information There are but few left that was in those camp[---] in the seventies I am the only one lift out of nine 2 Cerets that was in the Custer Camp in 1876 I am only 68 years an in the best of health and expect to live many moons yet over ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p005.jpg) I dont know of but one now left who was with the Bogman Yellowstone expodition his name is John Anderson and he is living at the soldier home near San Junea in this state Write me 333-E-4 St Long Beach Calif Your Truly OPHanna Hanna ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p006.jpg) Jan 2nd 1920 Mr W M Camp 7740 Union Ave. Chicago Ill Dear Sir In answer to your letter date Dec 26-19 relative to the Gen. Connor expedition to the Powder River Country in 1865 I have this to say, I came to the Powder River Country in 1882 setteling near the mouth of Mizpah Creek or river as given on some maps & our well assu[--]ted with Powder River & its tributaries from the Mont-Wyo line to its mouth but what I have to say about the expedition is hear say more or less of course—The plan of the Powder River expedition was for General Connor to move against the Northern Indians in 3 Columns one of these Columns was comanded by Col Nelson Cole & consisted of 8 cos 2nd Mo. light artil equipt as Cav. 8 cos 12th Mo Cav. & a train of 140-6-mule waggons total no. m[-]n about 1400—. This Column <(Coles)> left Columbus Neb some time in the early part of July 1865 for the Powder River Country ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p007.jpg) Col Cole passes through the Sand Hills & to the east of the Black Hills turning west & reaching Powder River some time in the last of August near the mouth of Alkali Creek about 50 miles from the mouth of the river crossed the river to the west side & moved on down for some miles possibly 15 or 20. about 6 or 7 miles below the mouth of Alkali on the west side I saw the remains of 8 or more waggons the wood work of which were burned. The command turned back up the river on Sept 2nd & passes on up to the mouth of Little Powder River. This move being made on act of scarcity of forage & attacts of the Indians who were before them in force every since they struck P.R. during this trip down & back he reported a loss of 225 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p008.jpg) horses & mules in consequence of which a number of waggons & stores had to be destroyed they must have reached a point just opisite the mouth of little Powder River about the 7 of Sept & here he lost <& killed> about so he reports about 414 animals & at this place I saw the remains of these horses & mules & & many waggons destroyed by burning the wood work, & much supplies inc. saddles harness &c &c they also threw in to the main river two of their field guns I saw the remains of this outfit in 1887. & the ruins were quite plain as to bones irons &c &c. This point is oppisite & a little above the mouth of Little Powder Rivr on the west side & is on see 19-J-4 South Range 52 E & from here down to the point where they turned back waggons & equipment were abandoned ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p009.jpg) & destroyed at intervals. You will understand that Gen Connors personal Column left the P R at Fort Connor traveled N W to Tongue river & down that stream to near its mouth & returned to Ft Connor by the same rout not touching lower Powder River at all This data I have taken from the diary of Capt H E Palmer asst qt Master to Gen Connors on this expedition & from Deeds of Vallor vol 2 page 121-129 edited by Beyer & Keydel from govt records printed by Perren Keydel Co Detroit Mich 1907 & other sources The old trails were quite plain until a few years ago over ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p010.jpg) 5 Notably on Box Elder Co head of little Beaver Cr head of OFallons Cr & along the Powder River. I have traveled miles & Miles of them many times & wondered about the times they were made & the sturdy men who made them now all gon or quite so- If what I have written is of interest I am glad, & at any time I will be more than glad to do what I may to help record those old days I am yours truly Dan H Bowman P S I have located this spot in accord with the official County Map & it ought to be reosonably correct. The spot is about 3½ miles below the town of Braudis the County Seat of Powder River County in which the place is located DHB ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p011.jpg) Jan. 2 Porcupine, S. [---]. Jan. 2 - 1920 W. M. Camp Dear sir:— I received your letter some time ago. But did not have time to ans, soon. You ask me about Clark's family, Ben Clark and his wife are both dead and the children are scatter here and there. They have no propper place to stay. they on going all the time, so I can't tell you where you would fine them. you migh[-] write to Ben Clark Jr. at Geary Okla. he is the only ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p012.jpg) one you might hear from that is if he is still around there. Well do't forget to hint us up if should come this way yours truly William Guerrin [Handwritten under the signature] William Guerrin ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p013.jpg) Mohawk. Hex River Co. New York Jan'y 3 - 1920. W.M. Camp Esq. 7740 Union Ave. Chicago Dear Mr. Camp:— I lend encolsed a copy of Capt. Leyman's Report on the siege of the wagon train at the Washita River. and some notes of my own and from memory and from my diary- The campaign of 1874-5 had some very interesting features- Beginning with the fight at the Adobe Walls. The fight of the whole of miles Command Infantery ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p014.jpg) creek. The siege of the wagon train, and General Mackenzie's battle in the Red River Canyon. Later in the winter, a body of men from Maxwell's Ranch of old Fort Lumner, on the Pear River went onto the Scared Plains and gave the Indians a hard blow killing many of their pines. I never saw any detailed account of this last affair. The Indians were so starved and in the winter that in the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p015.jpg) spring they went in and surrendered. Their losses in killed during the 4 or 8 months of the campaign were very slight. For they would not make a standing fight. I have always wanted to go back to see that country again. I presume it is all fenced up now and I would not recognize it. There is one thing in Bill Dixons Book I should like to see studied out. He says there are ruins of old buildings on Wolf Creek and graves that ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p016.jpg) were thought to be the most Eastern settlements of the new mexican Pueblo Indians. I never saw that statement related in any other book and during my 2 years service at Camp Supply I never heard of them. It is a pity that Capt. Lyman did not write his report in simple English. In reading it one's attention is drawn away from the facts of history. to his hifalutin lauguage ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p017.jpg) up that I know of. I have never been at the "Slim Buttes." but was about 40 miles south-east of there at Thunder Butte, with my Regiment the Second Cavalry a few years ago, about 1903, I think. The Utes were up them among the Sioux, and starving; but there were no engagements, and no necessity of sending any troops there. Your's very sincerely F. West. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p018.jpg) A brief account of Mackenzies Expn by Col Hatfield 1874 [Handwritten in ink] Mr. W. M. Camp 1874 With Maps which I have previously Reused from War Dept the trail y his command [Handwritten in ink] 7740 Union Avenue Could likely he traced [Handwritten in ink] Chicago ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p019.jpg) 40 Vick Park B Rochester N. Y. January 4th, 1920 Mr. W. M. Camp. 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Ills. Dear Mr Camp. Replying to your letter of Dect, 24th, 1919: Fortunately I find I have my original notes made during the service week fall of 1844 covering the campaign of Colonel R. S. Mackenzie 4th cav. aquic[-]t the condeferated indians of the Oacanaus [---] & Kiowa reser- vation in Indian Territory (Oklahoma). about six hundred indian men with their families of the comanche, Kiowa, and southern Cheyenne tribe, with a few Arap- ahoes and Apaches left the reservation on the war patch early in June 1874 and moved out into the Pan Handle of [---]. The 4th Cav. at this time was stationed on the Rio Grande with [--] [-]rs at Fort Clark, Texas. In July Mackenzie was ordered to proceed ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p020.jpg) north and aperate against these indians. His command consisted of seven troops of his regiment, A. E. F. H. I. K. & L. Captains Beaunant, Bachne, Guenther, McLaughlin, He[---] & Wi[-]t; 1st Lts. Ghampson, Callahan, Sweeney, Crews, Warrington & Miller; 2nd Lts Dorst, Hatfield, Wood, Leeper and Tyler's the swindle negro indian scouts also five companies of the 10th Sufty, under Major Thomas Anderson. MacKenzie arrived at Fort Concho with his command about the 17th August and started north on the 19th. He established his supply camp on the head of Catfish Fork of the Brazos river about 150 miles north of Fort Concho. The base for the supply camp was Fort Griffin 150 miles to the east. On septr 20th the cavalry marched north with a wagon train, under infantry escort follow- ing. Five scouts, consisting of two Sw- indle negro indians; two Fort Kawa indians and one soldier of Troop E, had been sent on reconnoisance on the evening of the 19th. The scouts came in Contact with about thirty hostiles at Quite Qué, 30 miles north ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p021.jpg) of the supply camp. They were surrounded by the hostiles in very rough, hilly ground and only escaped by fighting their way back to the Command. The Command including the wagon train under 1st St. H. W. Lawton R. F. W, ascended the steep eastern front of the staked Plains near the head of Pease river on the 23rd and marched in a north westerly direction. A half breed mexican named Johnson was sent out to look for the indian Camp. He reterned on the night of the 26th septr, reporting he had discovered the hostile camp in the Palo Duro Cañon Rad river about 30 miles north west from our Camp. A half hour after Johnson's return at 10.15 P.M. under a full moon, the entire force of hostiles attacked our Cavalry Camp. The attack was expected; preparation had been made to receive it. After Vain attempts to Charge through Camp; the indians took position in rough ground a few hundred yards to the west of Camp and Continued to fire 'till day light. At this hour the hostile ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p022.jpg) becoming more effective, Capt. Peter B[---] with his troop E of which I was 2nd Lieutenant; Capt. Theodore Wint with troop L, and the se[---] negro indian scouts under 1st Lt. W. A. Thomp- son 4th cav. were ordered independently to dislodge the indians & drive the[---] from their positions. The indians left in a rapid retreat and from various deep ravines & rough broken ground finally debouched onto the plains forming an excellent skirmish line, nearly a mile in length, going at full speed. Troop E in Column of fours, with detachments of scouts & soldiers, a half mile on the right & left bore down on the hostile line about 200 yards in rear & continued the pur- suit about two miles. One of the Comman- ches with a gorgeous head dress was Killed, his body being left on the ground. During the charge a glorious sun came up directly behind us and shining on the hostile line made a beautiful picture. The indians were ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p023.jpg) in full war costume; with feathers, paint, spears, war bonnets & jingling bells and as they kept up their rapid flight, Constantly turning in their saddles & firing at us, my prophetic spirit said and kept saying to myself: look will and drink this all in for never will you see such a sight again. How true was my prophecy for while I have been in indian fights before & since then, the romantic & picturesque features of their were wanting. The troops were recalled and prepara- tions were made to leave camp, to en- deavor to capture the hostile Village near the head of River river. At 1 o'clock p.m. septr 24th 1874 the Command started on its march; six troops of Cavalry A.E.H.I.K & L. with the [---]inale scouts taking up the indian trail, which lead in a South Westerly dircetion, while the wagon train— which had caught up—under escort of ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p024.jpg) Troop 7 and two companies of infantry was ordered to establish camp on Tule Creek five miles to the west. It was Mackenzie's plan to deceive the indians, to make them believe he was in pursuit, when his real objective was their Camp thirty miles away on our right. We marched leisurely during the afternoon, frequently halting to graze the horses on the luxuriant grass, but when it became dark, our course was changed directly to the right and the pace quickened. About 2 o'clock a.m. on the 28th our scouts discovered that the hostiles also had changed their course and from the freshness of their trail, had cut in ahead of us, and returned to their camp only a short while before. We then halted & bi[--]wack- ed until 4 am. When we mounted & marched till early day light, when we saw directly in front of us, the dark outline of the Palo Duro, stretching to the East, while the Cansueila Bla[--]d, equally dark and deep looking was nearby on ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p025.jpg) our left. It was at the junction of these two Cañons that the trail descended fourteen hundred feet to the dark depths below. We dismounted & lead down the steep trail with troop E in advance, but had proceeded only about 300 yards when a lone indian sentinel was en- countered, who firing his rifle & waving a red blanket, disappeared, apparently into space. The indian's sig- nal had an immediate effect. An indistinct humming came up from the bottom and presently the hostiles could be seen hurriedly packing & starting in flight up the Cañon. At one point of the trail, the first collection of 20 teepées was directly under us; a stone could have been tossed into it, but the depth was so great that the teepees, ap- peared about the size of a silver dollar. From there, up the shallow, small red river, the village extended more than two miles, with intervals of several hundred yards, between separate camps. It required thirty minutes for the two ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p026.jpg) leading troops to reach the bottom of the trail, to mount & start in pursuit, by which time the indians had par- tially made good their escape. After about a mile we came up with the indians but they had had time to take positions up on the steep sides of the Cañon and the great amount of firing, resulted in but few casualties. It before the day of the sharpshooter. Only one indian was k[---] to have been killed, and only one soldier was wounded. But the total result was immense. The camp had been prepared for winter, was well stocked with provis- ions and supplies of all kinds. All of this was entirely destroyed by fire, and upwards of 1800 horses, ponies & mules were captured. The command was with- drawn and ascending the long steep trail with our captured stock, came out on to the level plain early in the afternoon. After cooking & eating a meal, which was sorely needed, we began our march in return to the camp of the wagons ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p027.jpg) train on Tule Creek, where we arrived at 2 a.m. the following morning. During the day, septr. 29th '74, several hundred of the best of the captured stock were assign- ed as mounts to the troops, on distributed to the scouts to replace wounded cavalry horses an as a reward for the brilliant work of the scouts. The mexican Johnson received forty. The pick of the arrivals at his share. After this was done, the balance, 1450, of the captured stock were collected in one small spot and shot by infantry detachments to prevent any pos- sibility of their falling into the hands of the indians again. I am informed that the large pile of bones still remains as a monument to the last indian Campaign in the south west. The exact location of this place is at the old Crossing of Tule Creek, where it begins to form the Cañon. Machenzie's fight was in the Ralo Dunes Cañon where it is joined by the cañonista Blauea, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p028.jpg) about eighteen miles below the head of the cañon and about 25 miles up from the [---] Good[-]ight's ranch, at its mouth. I believe Plainview is the name of a town, nearby. The secretary of the Historical society of the Pan Handle, wrote to me for information a few years ago, and I furnished him a sketch similar to this. For several weeks after the shooting of the indian horses, the command followed different indian trails, but when it was found that all of them were leading eastward to the indian reservation, it was withdrawn to its supply camp on Catfish Fork. From this camp MacKenzie made a raid with your troops, in a night to mucho qué, some small lakes on the staked Plains, about forty miles west, and struck an isolated camp of about one hundred Gusharde, Commanches, Killed several of the indians, captured their stock, and destroyed their camp. The Gushardes were renegades; had never lived on the reservation, and ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p029.jpg) did not Come in & surrender until nearly two years later. After the Capture of the Gu[-]harde camp, the troops were recalled and ordered to their posts. The Campaign was finished. when MacKenzie arrived in the Pan Handle in sept. 1874, it was evident that all other commands, which had been aperating against these indians, had withdrawn and if it had not been for MacKenzie the campaign would have lasted into the summer of 1875. This was the last campaign in the south west. without going into many details I believe I have covered MacKenzie's Campaign fairly well. I trust my account of it will be found useful. I was not in the Dull Knife campaign. Truly yours [---]. [-]. [-]. Hatfield Col. U.S.A. retired. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p030.jpg) [Written sideways in the top left margin] answered 1/15/20 Clarksburg W. Va Jany 10 1920 Mr W. M. Camp Chicago Ill. Dear Sir: Yours making inquiry in reference to affairs concerning the Indian hostilities in and around Fort Phil Kearney is received. While I commanded The Infantry Battalion in The Expedition under Col. Henry Blanington to establish the forts of Phil. Kearney and. C. F Smith along the base of the Big Horn Mountains in 1866, I was on detached service at the time of the Fetterman 'Massacre and the wagon bed fight under Powell. I can give no information as to the distance the former fight took place from the fort. but think it was on the "wood road," leaving up the larger fork of the creek— I would suggest if you have not ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p031.jpg) already got there that you procure the book published by the first Mrs Carrington entitled "Absaka[-]a" a home of the Crows—and the book published by the 2d Mrs Carrington entitled "My life on the Plains". she was the widow of Lt. Bingham who was killed in the vecinety of the fort. before the Fetterman affair. If you desire it I can give you an account of the Indians running off the herd of mules from Phil Kearny. the pursuit and fight over nearly the same ground that Fetterman fought over, this was on July 17, 1866. under my command. I can give you photographs of Powell, Kinney who built Fort C. F Smith on the Big Horn, Phisteres Bisbe[-] and myself. I would suggist that you write to Genl. Wm. H. Bisbe[-] No. 16 Warwick Road Brooklyn, map. and to Daniel M. Ke[-]stetter, 501 Center Street Massilon, Ohio giving my name. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p032.jpg) I will be glad to help you in any way I can, and hope you will not hesitate to ask me to do so Very Respectfully Henry Haymond ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p033.jpg) Cincinnate, O. Jan'y 7, 1920 Mr. W. M. Camp, Chicago Dear Sir—I was very glad to receive your kind letter of 28th [--]lt., which interested me very much I had a copy of Mrs. Carrington's book Absaroka but in some way it was lost, perhaps in loaning to friends. I would like very much to secure another copy—can you give me address of the publishers & then I will write them. I hope you may secure the desired information ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p034.jpg) from Gen. Bisbee and Colenel Haymond for your historical studies The last time I met Gen. Carrington was at his home in Mass. He was very much interested in my grandson [---]ss, who [---]ter [---] with me—The one time lad is now a student at Yale, from which the General graduated Will be glad to hear from you again. Very sincerely, Isaac d'Isay— d'Isay ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p035.jpg) Denver Col. Jan. 9/20 Mr. W. M. Camp 7740 Union Ave, Chicago. My dear Sir:— Mr. [-]. M. Brown of the State Historical Society of this city is interested in my collection of Indian photographs, Mr. Brown asked me to send you one of my small catalog's You will understand the— ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p036.jpg) small cuts I am sending you tell a very short story of the original prints. Yours very truly Roland Reed 1458 Washington Denver Col. [written sideways in the lower right corner] Answered 1/14/20 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p037.jpg) [written in the upper right corner] answered 1/15/20 1-9-20 Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ills. Friend Camp: I wrote you some time ago about a man by name of Spaulding, who was companion of "Wild Bill" Hitchcock when the latter arrived in Deadwood, in fact the two men spent several years together. At the time I wrote did not know Spaulding's address, so am sending it now: J. T. Spaulding, Route 1, Box 226, % J. J. Oliver, Berkley, Calif. If you can gt this man to tell you of early day experiences in the west you can get some authentic, uncolored history that will be valuable. Respectfully, [---] ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p038.jpg) Mackenzie Jan.21st.1920. Mr. W. M. Camp. Chicago, Ill/. Dear Sir:— Your letter in re killing of Indian horses by Genl. McKenzie has been handed to me for answer. Genl. McKenzie moved with his troops from their camp on the Blanco, in the eastern part of Crosby County, to the head of the Tulle canyon, middle of the western part of Brisco county, here left his train and camp equipment and moved forward towards the Palo Dura canyon, where he met the Indians. After the fight he returned to his camp at the head of the Tulle bringing with him the Indians and their horses. A Plains Indian with out his horse is no Indian, so it is said that Genl. McKenzie had the horses shot and caused the Indians to return to the Indian Territory on foot. When I first came to this country 32 years ago the bones of the horses were still to be seen, but soon after that the settlers hauled them to the railroad and sold them at $20.00 per ton. Some years ago there was an organization at Amarillo, Texas, known as the Old Settlers ,of this organization Hon. Thos. F. Turner was at the head, he appointed the writer on the historical committee, I located the only remaining officer who was in that fight and secured from him an account of the fight, I filed this pa-per with Mr. Turner, I suppose if you will write to Mr. Turner you will be able to get a copy of the account of the fight. Address Hon. Thos. F. Turner, Attorney, Amarillo, Texas. Soon after I came to this country I read an account ,written by the Adjutant of the regiment, and printed in the Military Service Magazine. After you have read the paper above noted and have got the number of the regiment you might write to the Adjutant for a copy of their story of the fight, which they keep in the archives of the regiment. I have just looked through my papers for a photo.of the head of the Canyon, but could not find one, it is a very beautiful and interesting place. Yours truly. P P Smyth Secretary. P. P. Smyth ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p039.jpg) Massillon O Jan 21st 1920. Dear Comrade Camp. I have Just received Your letter of inquiry in regard to Sample. And. will Say. that Fetterman did not Send. for. reinforcements as his Communication With the Fort was. Cut off. after he became engaged with the Indians As he had no surgeon with him Dr. Hines was. Sent to Join him but returned Saying that the Country was. full of Indians And he Could not Join him Capt Len Eyck. was then Sent with a relieving party of about 50 men. And. Sample who was acting as an Orderly. want with this party. When they Came on top of the Ridge they Could See the Valleys and hills Swarming with Indians and Len Eyck Sent orderly Sample. back. to make such report. He soon. discovered Fettermans party. all Killed & mutilated in the most undescribable manner ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p040.jpg) and brought 49 bodies in with him that Evening. I Know Fetterman Could not Send for reinforcements and what I have given you, is true. from. my. recollection of this Sad. affair of. 54 years ago. and the 21st day of December never Comes. to me but what I. am reminded of. that sad day. and. even to this day fills my heart & Soul with Sadness. that time Can never Efface. I Close. Truly Yours D M Kerstetter 501 Center St Massillon O. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p041.jpg) Rosebud fight Sand Point. Idaho Box 456 Pine St.. 615 Jan.. 23, 1920 Mr Clamp your Letter was recived & I sertnly was Plesed to hear from you once more. I am well, & hope this Letter my find you & Famley the same. & I was Plesed to hear that you had a monument Put up on the Battelfield of Slim B[--]tes. I Persume Someday you will have a monument Put up on The Battel Field of the Big Horn Rose Bud valey ware thare was a Grater los of & wounded & 7 ours of contin- -uel fireing Exquse my Poor Spelling. the catrages ware about 6 or 7 Inches deep on the grount. ware the men Stood on a Squair [drawing of a square with lines coming out of the sides] Block like that. this took Plase 3 days Before Generl Custers Massecree about 20 miles from ware Custer was massecread. I have Ben layed of from wark untill Spring. that will Be 3 months, so that will leave me in such a Shape that I could not, Pay my one Expencis. & then you would have to have a Guide to follow the Range of the Big Horn montunes if I could folloe the trail from Generl Crooks Camp on Guse Creek. I think I would have no trubbel in finding the Plase ware we was forsed to leave our Horses, ware due you Intend to Put up the mon= ument for Frank our Guide. onley for Frank we would of ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p042.jpg) Ben killed it was a luckey thing for us that we had n offeser in charge of us, as he would Shureley under took to run. I never shell forget our guide that is Frank. wen he took us over the range of montains wen it was so Dark that we had to Put our hands on his Shoulder to keep in line with him, & then wen me & a man set on a flat rock to wach one our so the Guide & the other men could Sleep & rest on a flat rock, at 12 Oclock at midnight. Due you Expect to Be abel to locate Gorge Rodey, he is one of the 26 that dropet with in 5 miles of Generl Crooks command. I Should Think us felloes that served Dureing that Indian camppain Should Be Intiteld to as much of a pension as the Sivel Warr Vetterns. we cant make a Liveing on $20 Dollars & Pay House rent. & the most of us are to Old to due all kind of hard labor. I will close with Kind Regards, & could you advise me what to Due to get a rase of Pension, from your Friend & Schout. Herman.P. Oschgar. Hope to hear from you agin, Oschgar ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p043.jpg) Corespondence with Dan H Bowman & Knowltin in be Connor-Cole Exp 8 1865 ie Bowman with whom I am corresponding came to Mont in 1882 & takes much interest in Western History [The following hand written in square brackets in the bottom right corner] General Wm. Brown ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p044.jpg) Jan 27th 1920 Mr W. M. Camp 7740 Union Ave Chicago Ill Dear Sir Your very interesting letter of 13 inst came to hand a day or two ago. I note what you say about the Pawnee scouts crossing from Tongue to the Powder from Connors to Coles Camp, my authority says this scout across from Tongue to Powder was made by Serj. Chos L. Thomas Co E 11th Ohio Cav. & two Pawnee scouts. who Gen Connor detailed to go with him this was on the morning of Sept 12.—Capt Palmer says "This morning early Gen Connor despatched whos name I have forgotten (it ought to have been preserved as he was a hero) to go with 5 Pawnee scouts to Coles Camp" Palmer says this man was a member of the 7th Iowa Cavelry & the trip was made successfully— Capt North was Connors chief of scouts & I ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p045.jpg) corresponded with his brother, Cap L H North of Collumbus Neb Bl to the expedition and he has given me some good dope. As you say Cole crossed the Little Mo and on over to Box Elder Creek crossing this letter at the mouth of Trail Cr going n&nw toward chalk buttes he crossed on to the head of little Beaver creek traveled down it a few miles possibly 15 and across the divide at the extreme head of Ofallons Creek down which he traveled a short distance maybe 5 or 8 miles, but near the head he turned so to the west and went down through the badlands to the river over a very rough and broken trail, from where he turned west to the river is about 12 miles I think the old trails over cooperative smooth ground were 4 atmost and showed plain. on Box Elder heads of Little Beaver and Ofallons crks. I am sending you a rough sketch map I have drawn [--] Coles trail as I know it marked in red of course you understand this is only appropriate and as I remember it 20 or 25 years ago ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p046.jpg) I have not been able to gather much of Reynolds fight on the Powder & never knew where the ground was but I have been over the ground 20 or 30 years ago I saw a man some years ago who was in the fight or was along with Reynolds as a packer I believe he said, but I have forgotten what his name was an all about it, about all I could get from him was they were scared most to death & almost frozen as he told the story the indians came near geting them & retook the horses— I have been at Shin Buttes but not over the Battle ground that was about 30 years ago I was a Cowboy those days & rode rather fast & not very carefully over the countries when I worked—now as to the trip June 15 to Sept 1st is the best time to make this trip as the roads are usually fine during that time ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p047.jpg) I would suggest that you come to Camp Crook—to Ekalaka to Baker—to Ismay to Knowlton & I live 8 miles South of Knowlton & 10 miles East of Mizpale I have marked the ranch on the sketch map I will be glad to have you come to us & I will be delighted to show you over what grounds I can there is a good road from Miles City to Moorhead via Mizpale Powder villa & Broadis also up Pumpkin creek all of these roads are possible for autos (quite good) at most season, From Camp Crook to Ekalaka is about 35 miles Ekolake to Baker 40 miles Baker to Ismay 39 miles Ismay to Knowlton 18 miles all good open road, Ekalaka direct Mizpak is about 65 or 70 miles many gates trail not connected so you will do better to come via Baker & Knowlton ½ mile East of Knowlton you turn to the left over a small bridge go 86 miles south & turn to the left through a board gate that has the words Spearhead Ranch on it & the road will take you to our ranch I will be glad to answer ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p048.jpg) any questions rel to The Trip & Country That I Can & when I see you I will hand out what little dope rel to these things that I can write me when you start & what time I may expect you I am yours truly Dan H Bowman ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p049.jpg) Mohawk. New York- Feby 8- 1920 W. M. Camp, Esq. Chicago, Ill- Dear Mr. Camp;— Your's of the 5th [---] is receievd. I am glad to hear that you have decided to write about the Southern Campaign of 1874. I believe it would be a hard task to find the place where Billy Dixon and the f[--] Couriers had ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p050.jpg) their fight on September 12th 1874— It must have been about 4 miles South of General Miles first Camp on the washita. and near the wagon road that Miles' command made when they went South to Red River. A few miles further South, three troops of the 8th Cavalry had a fight with the same Indians on the same day. If the Dixon fight was less than 6 miles ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p051.jpg) . from Lyman's Train, we ought to have heard the firing, as the rifles used in those days of black powder, made considerable noise— I am wondering if that country is all fenced up now? and the land all plowed up? If so; it would be almost impossible to find the shallow hole where Dixon fought. I was never at the adobe ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p052.jpg) Walls. Of course you have read the account of Kit Carson's battle there in 1864 during which they kept lance of their horses and pack mules inside the walls for protection. I have just been reading Captain Marcy's "Army Life on the Border." He commanded the first body of troops that marched than the Panhandle of Texas. It was in 1849. He escorted emigrants bound ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p053.jpg) for California from Fort Smith, Arkansas, to Albuquerque, New Mexico, and had orders to look up a good wagon road for Emigrants, and he mapped the road, but I have not seen the map— In 1852 Capt. Marcy and Captain George B. M. Clellon made an exploring expedition into the "Panhandle," and explored all those branches of Red River in the Pan Handle, and what is more important!!! Marcy followed Red River to it's source in the Staked ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p054.jpg) Plains— The U. S. Government had ordered several expeditions to find the head of Red River as far back as 1806, when Lieut. Pike was sent on his expedition. It seems strange that all these government expeditions failed in their quest for Red River. So that it took 46 years of exploration to find it. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p055.jpg) At the time of the '74 Campaign, I made a rough sketch or itinerary of the route followed by the expedition from Camp Supply to Red River and over the hill to Tull Cañon, We struck Red River about 3 miles west of the mouth of Tull Cañon. Tull Cañon is on the South side of Red River. The date of construction of the Adobe Walls has never been definitely fixed in History. But I believe it was built about 1832 at the same time St Vrains Fort was built ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p056.jpg) on the South Platte. The necessity for the fort at the Adobe Walls was the fact that the Cheyennes and Cammanches were at war with each other, so that the Comanches could not get to Beau's Fort on the Arkansas, where the Cheyennes were located. But in 1840 the Cheyennes and Commanches (and Kiowas) made a treaty of peace and ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p057.jpg) it was no longer necessary to have a trading fort at Adobe Walls, and it was abandoned then 1840— There is another question I am interested in with regard to the ancient history of the Panhandle:- Billy Dixon in his book states that there were ruins of houses, and also some graves found on the Head of Wolf Creek. Now, the query is ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p058.jpg) who made them? Mr. Bandelier who studied the Pueblo Indians of New Mexico (whom I knew very well, but is now deceased) described the Eastern limit of the old Pueblo dwellings as he saw them, which only extended east as far as the Pecos River - but he stated that there were reports of their extending farther east, but he did not see them, i.e. the eastern ruins. Those houses may have ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p059.jpg) been built by new mexicans who used to go into the Pan Handle to trade with the Indians, Even up to the time I was Stationed at Camp Supply in 1873— I made one trip up the Wolf Creek nearly to its head, but I never thought of looking for ruins— Perhaps Mrs. Billy Dixon might know the location of these old ruins? It is of interest to know ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p060.jpg) how far the Pueblo Indians lived to the Eastward. I have always been anxious to visit the Panhandle, and go over the ground we passed over in 1874. and to see the Cañon of Red River at its head, near The Town in new Sante Fe Rail Road called "Canyon," and which cañon was for so many years a mystery. But I doubt whether I will ever take the trip. it is so far from here ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p061.jpg) I am delighted that you are taking such a great interest in this history. For if no one writes it up, it will soon be forgotten forever— Your's most sincerely F. West ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p062.jpg) 2125 Bane[-]o[-]t place, Washington D.C. Feb'y 12, 1920, Dear Mr Camp, I think you will find a copy of my history of the sixth Cavalry in the Public library; if not ask for it at the he[--]berry library. On pages 166-167 you will find General Miles letter to the adjutant General concerning the fight of the surdll Rorty in the Buffalo wallow, during Indian territory expedition. You will find a [---]her of fights ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p063.jpg) described in The vol- -ume, mainly in The Southwest. The title of my book is, "From Yorktown to Santiago with the Sixth Cavalry." Yours very Truly, Wm [-]. Carter William Carter ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p064.jpg) February 13, 1920. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. My dear Mr. Camp: Many thanks for your kind letter of the 6th inst. giving me the reference to "Machecou" in Hodge's Handbook of American Indians. I came to the conclusion sometime ago that Machecou was an Indian sobriquet and that "Baptiste Antonio dit Machecou" was a Spaniard and in all probability the brother of Pedro, who was killed by the Indians in 1817, while in the employ of Lisa. I have finished my notes to the Journal, and the work will probably be given to the printer in a week, but will not be ready for distribution much before two months. I will certainly not forget to send you a copy, for I have appreciated your interest and suggestions. Very sincerely, Stella M. Drumm Librarian. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p065.jpg) 2-17-1920 A.M Camp" 7740: Union. Ave Chicago - Ill My friend-in need" I enclose my personal check for five dollars and the suplus-apply towars the binding of Gronards. For it was very poorly bound when the Ad[--]in was offered for sale. A few years ago- I had secured a copy for you for an exchange as per as [---] ag[ --] man when you wrote. That you had unearthed one. So I sent it to my brother in Arizona: Hope to have the pleasure of making your aquaintance, if you are out this way - I am a very busy man but I shall Certainly - do all I can to ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p066.jpg) promote your intersts in the way of entertaining = I will be 75 years young on the 19th of this month. And I seem to be alone as one of the Frontiersman of the long "long"- ago= again thanking you - for your efforts, in placing the long desired books in my hands- I Am truly & Sincerely yours A.U.Banes ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p067.jpg) Feb, 20, 1920 Mr W. M. Camp. 7740 Union Ave. Chicago Ill. Dear Sir, My daughter Mary P. Cunningham, of 1458 Clifton St Washington, sent me your letter in the regard to the Mackenzie battle field. It is situated in Swisher Co, about twelve miles east and one mile south of Julia the county site. It is therefore about thirty miles north and a little east of Plainview, and about two miles west of the Briseu Co line. The battle took place at the mouth of Jule canyon, which runs into Palo Duro Canyon some thirty miles from the battle site, in the northern part of Briseu Co, you can find these places on a map of the Panhandle on which the canyons are shown. The place where the battle occurred, the walls are not very high and ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p068.jpg) the floor is comparatively level, and seems to have been a permanent as many graves and are to be seen there and picture writing is still there on many stones. The settlers in those parts all know of the Mackenzie battle ground. I have not been able to find out about the bones of the horses of which you speak, but as late as fifteen years ago, the bones of many horses were to be seen on the battle field, down on the floor of the canyon, on the slopes and everywhere, but these were picked up by bone-pickers and sold, and doubtless this was the fate of the others Efforts have been made for several years at Amarillo and other towns, to have parts of Palo Duro and Tule made into a public park but nothing has yet come of it, The mackenzie battle ground is now owned by a ranch man, Trusting this information will be of interest to you I am yours sincerely Mrs W. J. Cunningham, Hale Center, Tex. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F29_B2_F7_p069.jpg) February 18, 1920. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. Sir: In response to your inquiry for information con- cerning Archibald Sample, Band 18 U. S. Infantry, you are advised that his name does not appear on the records as that of a pensioner or applicant for pension. Fifteen cents forwarded by you is herewith returned. Very respectfully, GMSaltzgaber Commissioner. [Handwritten at the bottom of the page] G.M. Saltzgaber ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p001.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, March 4, 1920. Col. Samuel W. Miller, Governor's Island, New York City. My Dear Col. Miller:-- Business has kept me on the jump so lively since returning from the East five or six weeks ago that I have just gotten to my private correspondence. I enclose two accounts of the fight with the Sioux raiders on Smith creek, March 8, 1880, one of these being my notes from my interview with you at the Knickerbocker hotel, and the other from J. B. Hawkins, who was with you in the fight. I see that there is only one essential point on which you and he differ, and that is as to the number of Cheyennes on hand at the time of the fight. This story of Hawkins' will likely bring some things to your mind that may have escaped your recollection, and, if so I shall be pleased with any elaboration of your story that you may be disposed to give me, or for any comment which you may wish to make on Hawkins' story. I am expecting to take Hawkins and go to the spot where the fight took place, when I go out there xx this summer. While at your house you told me of some book on Indians that had been written by some Commissioner of Indian Affairs, a long time ago. I think you said you had a copy of it in your office. Could you give me the title and date of publication of this work? I would like to look it up in the libraries. Also, I am trying to borrow photographs of certain officers, and I wonder if you have copies of these that you would loan me. They are-- Capt. Wm. Philo Clark Capt. Bennett, 5th Infantry, killed on Clark's Fork, in 1878 Lieut. Casey, killed near Pine Ridge, by Ghost Dancers, in 1890 With regards to Mrs. Miller, as well as to yourself, I am Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p002.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, March 10, 1920. Col. W.W.Denison, Adjt. General, G.A.R., Kansas, Memorial Hall, Topeka, Kans. My Dear Col. Denispn:-- I got through with the Platte Bridge papers to-da and have returned all of them. The four copies of the Casper Tribune were mailed in one package; the Pennock diary was sent registered first- class mail, and the Fairchild pamphlet is enclosed. I want to thank you most heartily for giving me the opportunity to take notes from all of these, which I have done with considerable thoroughness and care. In my study of these documents a number of questions have arisen, and some of these I am submitting to you here for answer or suggestion. I found the Pennock diary particularly interesting, and I am impressed that he must have been a man who had acquired the habit of accuracy in the keeping of notes and records. Nearly all men are truthful, but accurac in demails is rare. 1.--Pennock , in several places, refers to the "Upper" and the "Low<-> er" Platte bridges. Do you recall how far it was between the two bridge Was the Lower bridge anywhere near the mouth of Reshaw creek? I have sometimes heard this lower bridge called the "Reshaw" bridge, but have never been able to locate it satisfactorily. 2.--The three <">D<"> Company men who escaped from Custard's train the day of the big fight--Henry C.Smith, Corpl. James Shrader, and Byron Swain-- are any of these living now, and where? 3.--The newspaper clipping attached to the Pennock diary, to the ef- fect that a Mr. Buckman , of Casper, in 1911, found the bodies of Sergt. Custard and some of his men, in boxes sticking out of the river bank, where the current had washed it away, and that the chevrons of Custard were sent to you. Is this an authentic account? or is it possible that these could have been the remains of any of the Custard party? It says that the men were buried in their uniformasand in wooden boxes, whereas the Fairchild account says that all the bodies had been stripped of their uniforms and were buried in pits lined with blankets, with only rubber blankets spread over the bodies. Is it not likely that the re- mains found by Buckman were of men buried there before 1865? A good many army expeditions had traveled over that trail before 1865. 4.--On page 9, Fairchild quotes Gen. Connor with having ordered the soldiers to give no quarter to any Indian male older than 12 years. I wonder if this statement can be verified by any official document? The Mormons have told me equally hard things of Connor's treatment of Indians while he was commanding officer at Ft. Bridger, but I have never found any verification of the same in official orders. I contemplate going out to the Sweetwater country next summer, to look up landmarks of the campaign days there . Mr. Crumb gave me some description of the landscape about the Sweetwater post and bridge. These papers that I am now returning to you have been an absorbing study to me. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p003.jpg) March 15, 1920. My dear Mr. Camp: - In returning to my desk I am reminded of your kindnesses which you extended to me when I was in Chicago, and I am taking this formal way of thanking you for same. I hope it will not be many years before you will feel justi- fied in bringing out a publication or public- ations, which may have imbedded in them your great store of information on Northwestern his- tory. I am wondering if you have ever, by any chance, read Mr. John G. Neihard's "The Song of Hugh Glass", and "The Song of Three Friends"? These are in poetry but they most vividly and fascinatingly portray two most interesting pages of Northwestern history. The books are published by Machillan. We are going ahead expecting to un- viel two or three monuments in Wyoming this summer. I am wondering if it would be possible for you to be present on these occasions, say from July 25th to August 3rd, unveiling the Fort Caspar, Reno, Phil Kearny and the Wagon Box Fight sites. Of course, there is many a slip and we may not be able to do this but these are our hopes and expectations. Cordially yours, H-f. [---] [Handwritten under the signature] Hebard ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p004.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, March 19, 1920. Dr. Grace Raymond Hebard, University of Wyo., Laramie, Wyo. My Dear Dr. Hebard:-- I have received your letter of 15th inst. Yes, I have seen and read some of the books of J. G. Neihardt, of Bancroft, Nebr, among these the "Song of Hugh Glass", The "Song of Three Friends", "The Missouri and I". He is author of a number of books of the same class which have been published in the past ten years. He is a man with a gift of imagination, and the books that you men tion he evidently wrote from having read the current literature on the fur trade days of the West, and then putting with that information his ideas of local environment, personal characteristics, etc., to give to his stories the desired atmosphere. Ths book on <">Hugh Glass<"> and <">Three Friends<"> are two of five that, when completed, will cover an epic cycle beginning with the expedition of Lewis & Clark and ending with the bat- tle of Wounded Knee. Letters that he has written to two army officers asking for details of Indian campaigns have been sent to me for answer. In these letters he has outlined his scheme of work. One of the retired officers referred to is Gen. Charles King, with whom, as you may know, I have been associated quite intimately, for some years, in my historical studies of the West. I wish to thank you for your kind invitation to be present at the unveiling of historical monuments at Forts Casper, Reno, Phil Kearny and at the site of the Wagon Box fight, next July and August. I think it quite likely that I shall be able to do this, and I shall be much please if I can. If our present editorial staff of the Railway Review holds together during the year, I shall expect to make another automobile camp- ing tour along the Yellowstone and the Platte this summer, going as far west as Lander, perhaps; and, if I can succeed in carrying out my plans I should get down into Wyoming late in July and spend some three or four weeks in the State. My ability to do this all depnds upon my opportu- nity to get away from my work. Last summer we had a shortage of editors<,> beginning about Aug. 1, and for that reason I was tied down here all sum- mer. While you were in Chicago recently I spent five evenings putting into shape a little pamphlet on the "Need of Automatic Train Control", a copy of which I am mailing you. If your library of the University has use for literature on railway subjects I can send it a gift or two that may be of some service. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p005.jpg) Probably written to Joe Cuchertsen Jr at Paplar R - Wed[-] Pr[--]ceeorsr. J. March 24 1920 My dear Joe: Your letter asking my opinion about the validity of claims of the Gall Sieux re imbursement for horses taken from them has just arrived — to tell you the truth I dont see that they have any sort of a claim from the point of view that a white man looks at it — a man hears off all treaties — on the idea I suppose that you have done me such a wrong I have to fight you for it — in other words you have not kept up your side of the treaty. Those Indians had been at war against the U.S, and that was ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p006.jpg) property surrendered after a war — that is the plea a white lawyer would make—but there is more to it than that if you can make it go—The Sieux Indians were living [---]y and the Missouri in early times in their own country at peace with the white man for many years. The old trappers came into their country altho the Sioux sometime maltreated them they usually treated them well, but the trappers accountable to nobody often committed intolerable aggressions it got worse when thousands emigrants went up the Platte on their way to Oregon this the Sioux country. Finally the Sioux were given the Black Hills as their own Custer forced his way in reported gold on which there was a wish for that country in violation of the treaty. Because the Sioux refused to come in settle at the agencies about which there was no article in any treaty I know of compelling them to leave the buffalo country & settle at the agencies. Custer went out & fought them. so from this point of view the white man was the aggressor. That is the tone I would take if it was my own case—that the white man was ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p007.jpg) particularly b[---]ed to treat the Indian Equitably in that he was their guardian not instead of that he allowed white men to trespass in their country, kill off their food because they did not obey an order from the Secy Interior to come into the agencies which order was not based upon any treaty povision, they were attacked by troops The white man has an idea that in 1876 they were massing up to attack the white people so far from that I have been told by different Indians that if there had been an officer high enough in rank & known to them — bold enough & with enough knowledge of Indians to go out alone into their camp & reason with them he could have led the whole bunch into the Agencies. I have seen some pretty cross Indians but have always [written sideways in the left margin] Very Sincerely Yours H. L. Scott ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p008.jpg) found them reasonable and have never failed to get them to see the proper course, & if the thing were to do now I would have liked to take an escort of prominence Sioux Indians - taking only enough soldiers to cook pack [---] after the stock & a frise class interpreter & go right into Gall's lodge a Cruzystones - & patiently sat there for a week or a month allowing no rebuff to change my course —g[-]ving [-]asons at Coun- cils in every band I believe I could have gotten away with it [--]e it over. I have never seen an Indian yet who could stand out against me if I was determined to get him to do something he is too reas onable not to see your arguments & a little ridicule makes him helpless— I am glad to see that you are thawing out we have had the worst winter here in thirty years & have had to be dug out of the snow several times—and have had three days of good weather now & summer cannot be to far away if one reads the almanac it must come sometime—I suppose we have had it pretty fierce - I hope you Indians have not suffered much - I would get the [-]engrass[-]— hearings on the bill that gave money his pay - [The following written sideways in the left margin] ment to the Red Cloud & Standing Rock Sieuxs for horses taken in 1876 & see the arguments advanced & the way they were answered. Please rem member me to all my friends with you. I expect to see you again this summer ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p009.jpg) [The following written in the top right corner] James H Wooley Mon 7th Cav. Penacook NH. Aprial 2th 1920 Mr W M Camp Dear Sir I received your letter of march 30th will say that all Data i had of Camphings of of the 7th Cavalry i sent to Different Parties who was making collections for Serap Books never thinking they would be of any Value to me but i think if you will write to John Ryan West Newton Mass he would gladly give you some inform ation as he is a man that keeps track of all doings of the 17th Cav but i will try and refresh ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p010.jpg) 2 my Memry and if i think of any thing that will be of any intrest to you i will let you know in regards to the Washita Fight as far as i can recllact 1st Lieut owen Hale Comaned the Co Mac Intosh did not join the Co till we got back to Fort Hays in the Spring of 1869 i never saw Capt L M Dayton of course it is a long time to remember back and John Ryan is the oneley Enlisted man i have seen since i left the the service after my Discharge i went Driving Moules i was with Crook on the Rase Bend Camphing[--]n an Miles Camphinghian and i did not get Soldiering Enough so when the Spanish War Came on i enlisted in First ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p011.jpg) 3 New Hampshire Infantery and went Chickamauga i was 50 years of age when i enlisted i have seen Capt W F Edgley often as he is a nother of this state men if you write John Ryan i think he will give you some items let me me hear from you any time yours truly James H Wooley 15 Tremont St Penacook N H Late troop [---] 7th Cavalry ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p012.jpg) April 9, 1920 Mr. W. M. Camp 7740 Union Avenue Chicago, Illinois My dear Mr. Camp: Your two letters of recent date have been received. I am very grateful to you for the informa- tion contained therein, and particularly for the two pictures which you sent me, which were taken in con- nection with obtaining a photograph of the Medicine Wheel. I consider them most excellent. We hope now, altho it is subject to change, that we will unveil two markers -- not monuments -- near Casper, one at the site of old Fort Caspar, and the other where Lieutenant Caspar Collins fell July 25, 1865, while fighting the Indians. We expect, on the first of August, to unveil a marker at Fort Reno and on the afternoon of that day to unveil two simple markers on the Bozeman road. On the second, in the morning, we hope to unveil a marker at Fort Phil Kearney and in the afternoon one at the Wagon-Box Fight. We are planning, and I am hoping for coopera- tion from Montana, that Montana will unveil a marker on the third at the site of Fort C. F. Smith. We can very easily make that ninety miles, more or less, on the morning of the third. I am extending to you, on behalf of the Oregon Trail Commission of Wyoming, an invitation to be present at any or all of these unveilings, and I shall be very pleased if at one of the unveilings at least you would be willing to say a few words -- call it a speech, talk, address, sermon, lecture, anything you wish. Cordially, H:D Hebard ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p013.jpg) [Handwritten in the top left corner] Wagon Box 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, April 10, 1920. Mr. Frederick Claus, 730 G Street, Lincoln, Nebr. Dear Mr. Claus:-- I have received your kind letter of 5th inst. together with the picture of the battle of the Wagon Box, which you had sent you from Germany. I find it very interesting, and shall have a copy made quite soon. It certainly is a remarkable piece of drawing for an enlist ed man to do in such a place as an army post of the frontier days. I shall follow your directions and send the picture to Mr. Max Littmann, in St. Louis, as soon as the copy of it can be completed. I expect to be going to St. Louis before the end of this month, on other business, and may take it to him personally. I know Mr. Littmann very well. With regards, and with best wishes for your health, I remain Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p014.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., April 10, 1920. Editor of Hunter-Trader-Trapper Columbus, Ohio. Dear Sir:-- About a month ago Mr. E. A. Brininstool, of Los Angeles, Cal., requested me to write you something on a controversy in which he is en- gaged, through the columns of your magazine, regarding the battle of the Little Bighorn and the participation of one Alfred L. Chapman therein. I have not, as yet, complied with his request, stating that I would first wish to see all that has been published concerning the matter in your magazing, beginning with the number of October last. This number I have not yet been able to see. I now learn, from an acquaintance of Brinistool, that he has sent you, for publication in your May number, certain matter supposed to be quoted from remarks of mine bearing on the matter. If such is the case I would most earnestly request that you withold such from publication, as I have not said anything or written anything to Mr. Brininstool with per mission to publish, or that I would care to have published; especially so because of the fact that I have not seen all of the articles that you have published from the two sides of the controversy. If you will look in your files you will find that I recently wrote you for a copy of your number of October, 1919, but you replied that you supply was exhausted. I hope that you will, therefore, do me the coutresy not to publish something, as coming from me, that is not authorized by me. If I were to have anything to say on the subject I would prefer to write it to you direct, as Mr. Brininstool has requested me to do, and not put into print something that does not have my approval. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p015.jpg) F.J. and W.F.HEER. Publishers O KUECHLER, Managing Editor PLEASURE AND PROFIT PUBLICATION HUNTER-TRADER-TRAPPER ESTABLISHED OCTOBER 1900 ADDRESS ALL 144 TO 200 PAGES COMMUNICATIONS TO MONTHLY HUNTER-TRADER-TRAPPER $1.50 PER YEAR. INSTEAD OF TO INDIVIDUALS COLUMIS, OHIO April 16 1920 Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. My dear Mr. Camp: Your letter of the 10th at hand re- garding the article written by Mr. Brinistool. We received your letter too late to hold this out of our May number, as this form was already off press. However, we do not find anything in your letter that would not bear publication as we find it coincides with the balance perfectly. We are sending you herewith proof sheets we have taken from this form as it will appear when bound up in our May number. We hope you will not think us bold in printing this and we assure you the permission was given us by Mr. Brininstool, and we presumed that you in turn gave him this permission. Under separate cover we are sending you a copy of our October number. Of course, this is the only copy we could find around our office and it is somewhat mutilated, but you can find the article intact which you have reference to in your letter, on pages 32-35 inclusive. We trust that yourletter published in our magazine will not cause you any inconvenience and we feel sure it will be very interestingly read ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p016.jpg) Mr. W. M. Camp by our large number of subscribers. Yours very truly, F. J. & W. F. HEER, PUBLISHERS. O. Keuckler OK: O P.S.A. Copy of the May issue will be sent you shortly. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p017.jpg) 17th,April, 1920. Mr. Wm. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir: At the request of Dr. Grace Hebbard, I am today forwarding you under separate cover copy of resource map and folder compiled by this Department, which I trust will be of interest to you. Very truly yours, Chas. S. Hill. Commissioner of Immigration, CSH:ACH. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p018.jpg) Penacook NH April 21st 1920 Mr W M Camp My Dear sir Enclosed you will find letter from JC Pickens I wrote you a letter March 12th but it was returned the address was wrong but hope this will reach you all right you can rely on all the statements Comrade makes hopeing to hear from you soon I remain Truly yours James H Wooley 15 Tremont St Penacook NH PS i sent your letter to Pickens if you write him i am sure he would give you some valuble information JHW ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p019.jpg) Soldiers Home, California April 13 1920 Jap H Wooley Comrade Enclosed find H.P. Wilsons adress. I would send it direct to him, 7740 Union Ave Chicago, Ills but I believe you will be glad to read it and that you will promptly forward to Mr WM Camp, 7740 Union Ave, Chicago. He may find it useful. (You may have forgotten his address) -You and I will help him all we can. Enclose this letter also to Mr. Camp. It is to you and him combined. C Lieut Owen Hale was in command. We had no Capt present on that campaign. I dont remember seeing Lieut Donald McIntosh until later on. I was with M troop only from Nov 10th 1868 to June 11 1870 about 19 months I never saw capt LM Dayton during my service. I had a book in 1892 which gave a very accurate account of the Washita Campaign as I saw it; I regret that I only recall the little title "Sheridan's Troopers" Doubtless Mr Camp has read Custers books giving full accounts of his part in the campaign for, Also Mrs Custer's "Boots and Saddles," and "Following The S[---]" and "tenting on the Plains" these 3 are in our home library here— G.F. Forsyth's account of his fight ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p020.jpg) (desperate defense) on the [---] (Beechirs Island) is in our library, title, "Thrilling Days in Army Life". A detailed account of the Little Big Horn Campaign & Custer massacre by Capt E.S. S[--]p[-]y of the 7th cav. is in Century Magazine, Vol 43 p. 358, he was with Ren[-] where St Donald McIntosh fell. Chief "Two Moon", of the Sioux, who participated in the massacre gives a graphic account (intern[---]) published in McIn[--]ss Mag. Vol II p 445 These are bound volumes found in public libraries Mrs Blimn & child were captured from a wagon train in western Kansas. She was going from Colorado to visit her father in Otowa, Kans. His name was Harrington. She managed to convey a letter by an indian to the military before the campaign asking rescue. I need a printed cope. She was not in the village attacked but in Satanta's Kiowa camp lower down the Washita but near. I have heard Satanta killed her. I guarded Satanta and Lone Wolf when Custer help them later at Fort Cobb; 4 guards in a square beat around their tepee. I also took a turn gyarding Dull Knife, Fat Bear & Big Tree en [---] Ft Hays. Dull Knife after some years let one of the most desperate raids I ever read of, trying to get his old reservation with in Dacotah or Mont ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p021.jpg) If you cant get it I will try as it is in our Side. but I have forgotten what book. We allowed Satanta and Lone Wolf to bathe in the Creek Both large finely formes. Satanta Sleep, fat but [---] Scars noticable. Lone Wolf seemed with long scars. 40 years after I read of Lone Wolf encounters which explained the cuts One white child was killed by an old squaw in, the heat of the charge after she had surendered She died quite suddenly Lieut Hales was later Killed in Nez Perces war. Thes best I can locate the [---] of Mrs Morgan and Miss White would be above the mouth of the Sweetwater Creek which which heads in Texas, crosses into Okla in the S.W. cor. or Roger Mills County and runs into the N.W. cor. of Beckman county where it (Sweetwater) unites with the North Fork of Red River; about 130 miles west of Ft, more or less, Major Elliott, during the battle at the Black Kettles Camp, saw some cheyenne fugitives escaping, He called some troopers to follow, [-]9 including Sergt Major Kennedy, did so and pursued too far for Custer or men to hear the sounds of their last fight for lives. The 1000 warriors of the lower camps, Kiowa, Arapaho, Apache and Comanche, first cut off and united [---] Elliott ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p022.jpg) and then swarmed on the adjacent hill. It was then Black Kettle was shot from his pony While galloping to & fro in front of the mounted Warriors, thrusting its and [---] his warrior allies to charge us and [---] one of Elliott's blue U. S. horse blankets He had been one who escaped in the first attack. We stayed in the Village, all that day; meanwhile the inquiry "where is Eliott"; "where is my bunky" &c was heard. No one could say, and we returned to camp supply no wiser. Well, I will mail this, comrade Wooley, if you see any errors in what I have stated please correct them to Mr Camp. He should know that you & I were both in the same co (M) on the campaign and that we will gladly give straight facts if we know them The most that I have written here is just the current or common knowledge of the troops and what I have read since in Custer's and others naratives—Very little I personally saw I did not see the murder of the white captives nor their bodies yet I know it to be true &c &c J C Pickens ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p023.jpg) Dwight Kane Apr 27 1920 Mr AM Camp Dear Sir yours to hand in reply will say. I will gladly tell you all I know & remember about that Powder river trip. For I think I know as mutch or more than eny living man. The Comrad off Cole[-] command I picked up & carried into camp is still living. My citation in the war Dept for my Medal say this solder volenterd to carry A mesage through A country infested by ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p024.jpg) hostile Indians & saved the life off A comrad enrout. it will be severl days before I can do this, as I will be gone from home for severl days.do you want detail or just a few facts as regar -ds the expedition Peft yours C.L.Thomas ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p025.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, May 5, 1920. Dr. Grace Raymond Hebard, Laramie, Wyo. My Dear Dr. Hebard:-- Absence from the city has prevented earlier reply to your interesting letter of April 9. I note your plans for the placing of markers at the site of Fort Casper, at the point where Lieut. Collins fell, at the site of Fort Reno, elsewhere on the Bozeman Trail, and at the site of Fort Phil Kearny, the Wagon Box fight, and at Ft. C.F.Smith. I am also pleased to receive your kind invitation to be present on one or all of these occasions and give a talk at at least one of them. Although my plans have not been worked out in detail, as yet, nor the exact time of my leaving Chicago, I nevertheless anticipate being out in Wyoming somewhere about Aug.1, and I am glad to accept your invitation and co-operate with you in helping to hold these points with markers un- til a more propitious time arrives to erect something of permanent char- acter. It is quite likely that I shall be either in the vicinity of Crow Agency or Sheridan, or down on the Platte, about the end of July, so that I could be with you for a day or two, and am sure that I would enjoy the time thus spent. I am not much of an orator, but, if called upon, can do public talking in some shape, and shall be glad to assist in that way as well as I can. Perhaps one can now drive an automobile from Lodgegrass to Ft. C.F. Smith, but when I drove it with a team seven years ago I found the road frightfully rough and impassable for an automobile. A surer way for an automobile would be to go via. Crow Agency or over what is known as the Custer Battlefield road, there being a short cut turning west at the battle field. As you probably know, there is quite a lot of ruins at the site of Ft. C.F.Smith, which is not the case at either Phil Kearny or Reno. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F30_B2_F8_p026.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, May 19, 1920. Mr. J.M.Hoover, 602 South Main St., Halstead, Kane. My Dear Mr. Hoover:-- Several survivors of the Wagon Box fight, whom I have hunted up, have asked me to arrange for a trip out there shortly. I know you contemplated going out there, to Wyoming, about July or August, and am writing to ask if you could not go as early as the first week in June. Max Littmann, who was a corporal in the fight, is going to Europe about the middle of June, and if the trip were put off until July he could not be with the party. He lives in St. Louis, as I told you, I think A date about the last of this month or during the first week in June is agreeable to him and to John Buzzard, who lives in Pennsylvania, and also to Frederick Claus, who lives in Lincoln, Nebr. The idea is for Buzzard and Littmann to go to Kansas City, meet you there, if you will come; and the through Burlington Line trains run from there direct to Sheridan, Wyo., passing through Lincoln, where Claus would meet the party and go along. There would thus be four survivors of the fight to go together, and I think the trip would be a pleasant one, as June usually has fine weather up in that country. It is about 24 miles from Sheridan down to the scene of the fight, and the trip down there can be made on a good road, by automobile, in less than two hours. There will not be much expense more than the railroad travel, as local parties will arrange for the auto trip and probably re- ceive you as guests in other ways. I hope you can arrange to go with this party, and if you will let me know definitely about it soon, I will write and give you the exact date of meeting in Kansas City, and the place of meeting, the details of which have not yet been decided upon. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p001.jpg) C.S. Thomas to Camp ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p003.jpg) Dwight Kans [1920?] W.M. Camp Dear Sir, in reply to yo[torn and illegible] inquiry I will be as brief as posable on unimportant points. On major facts I can give you exact dates., as regards printed matter my diaree that I kept through my army service & all the printed matter pritainging to the Powder river trip were distroyed by fire I will send you the affi -davits off comrad. Ansles Steck Co. D.12th Mo cav. & Capt. H. E. Palmer Co. A. 11. Kans Cav ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p004.jpg) 2. I can give you the name & address off the soldier I picked up on the Powder. he may give you information as to the condition off Col Coles men. you will please return this prin -ted sheet to me after you have made coppy of it as it is the only one I have in the fore part of July <1865> my Co. went to fort Larimie <*([--])> to help guard the Suply thrain for Gen. Connors Pow -der river trip. off over three hundred wagons. besides two ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p005.jpg) *we were stationed at Deer Creek before this ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p006.jpg) for each company. we crost the north Platt river at Le Bonties crossing thair we were joind by Gen Connor & the rest of his command all so by Major Bridg -er who was gide for the expidition. we went in N.E. course to Powder river where we built A stockade* fort at whitch we left part of the commisary Suply's then went on to clear creek where they build an other fort & naimed it fort Phil Kearney where Col Leterman & his command were kild A few years ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p007.jpg) *Thomas says this was a big stockade gaveroned by 6th with Cavalry after Comnd left Stochade was probably 50 or 60 ft [illegible deletion] (not square) on a ride & had a lookout on each corner ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p008.jpg) years later. then on to Toung river, on down to the yellow Stone on the 23 of august at night Connor attacted an Arapihoe village & distroyed it. Capt. North with the Pawnee Indians were to attact on one side. but they broke & went to plun =dring & the Bucks broke through the gap & got away we A number off Womon & Children & over 750 head of horses & mules. the nex morning the Generl ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p009.jpg) made the Pawnees put all thair Punder on A pile & burn it. loaded A number of wagons with dried meat. the night of Sept 4 it Set into raining & all the next day it rained Snowd & Sleated with A cold wind from the N. W. thair was not A tent* in the command but the Generls. the mornind of the 6th the Sun rose bright & warm & we Spent the day drying our clothing & blankets. one who never eperanced sutch storm can know what we Sufferd ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p010.jpg) *Thomas eniph[---] this ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p011.jpg) 6. Sep 7 continued down Toung river to the yellow stone. that night built large bon fires & the sign -al corps put in part of the night throwing up rockets you ask if is true as reported that Capt North & his Pawnee Scouts went to the Powder river. & found & reported the killing of 5 or 6 hundred head of horses in one camp & what was the necesity for ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p012.jpg) my going. thair would have been no reason or excuse for my going & did North go before I did Sept 8. early in the morning North with his scouts went east towards Powder river & Connor went bach up toung river about 30 miles from the yellow stone went into camp to await develipment late in the after noon Sep 9 North returned to Connors camp ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p013.jpg) Sep 10. Connor dispatch Major Humphervill with about 3 hundred men to go to Powder river to find Coles command. (if North had been thair why needed Humphervill to have tried to go.) if you will refer to Senate Document No 58-66th Congress. 1st Sess -ion, Page 410, Col Nelson Cole. second Missouri Light artill reports arrival of cour -ier party of two soldiers & two Pawnee Indians Sept 13. 1865 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p014.jpg) No names mentioned Sep 11 Major Humpher -vill returned to Conno camp with out having reach Powder river then thair was officers call & then & then general assembly at whitch the Gen told us the objt for whitch we were thair. that thair was an other command some where on Powder river Suronded by thousand of Indians that when Cole left the Mo River he took ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p015.jpg) he had rations to last his command untill the 1st of Sep & that it was posabel that he was all ready without rations. whitch prove to be true he Connor said had done ever thing he could to relief Cole that he could do that he could not detatch eny larger force from his command without endagering it. that that the country was swarming with Indians that Humphervill could hear artilery fiering on Powder ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p016.jpg) River that Cole evidentley was engaged with the Indians. & that he wanted to make one more effort to reach Cole that he wanted some one to volenteer to go to Powder river & find Cole or perish in the attempt. that he intended to send only one man with instructions. for those would go to report to him in the morning. that he expected thair wou -ld be twenty or more willing to ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p017.jpg) to go. I was the only, one to volenteer to go. my Capt L. G Marshall went to Headqurters with me. the Gen Show -ed he was mutch disaponted when he saw. I was the only one. willing to go he asked the Capt all about my army service. the Capt told him I was enured to the har -dship of army life Id been in from the start & that I was the best long-distant shot ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p018.jpg) he ever saw & a splendid horse man he told me to get my breakfast fill my canteen with coffee. take some dried buffalo meat & plenty of aminition & report back to him. I told the Genl I would have to have an other horse, as my horse had got shot in the shoulder in the fight with the Arap[-] he said I could have eny horse in the command. I asked for Capt Jewit's <2nd cal. vols> gray. he was the finest horse I ever saw. I dident blame ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p019.jpg) the capt for not wanting me to take him. when Jewit told the Gen that was his private horse & that he ojected to my riding him. say, Connor was Irish Red Heade Pock marked & freckl face. he put Jewit under arest. said the job was open to ever Dam man in the command that they all knew the danger off the under taking. he said to Jewit if you say an other word I will detail you to go with the Sergent & he will ride your gray* ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p020.jpg) * So I got Jewit's horse and rode him ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p021.jpg) when I went back to the Genl for my instruction capt North & two Pawnee Indians the Genl said now Sargent I am not deta -iling you understand if you undertake it you are to find Coles command or Perish in the attempt & father more I have not the heart to send you alone to allmost your certain death. these Indians will go with & obay your orders if you reach the Powder river & ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p022.jpg) find Coles trail hide through the day time & ride the trail by night. I had talked with Jim Bridger our guide about the country he said when I started down on the Powder river side of the watter shed to ride into a revien if it was dry 4 or 5 miles down it would most likley be dry all to Powder river <&> with out eny timber he called it 2½ day ride or about one hundred miles from ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p023.jpg) from the yellow stone you ask if I was a plainsman if I had been in that country before. could I talk Pawnee. (no to all the questions.) the Pawnees could talk & under stand english farley good. I did not meet North on Powder river thair is no landmarks on toung river that I can identify only that it was about 30 miles from the yellow stone where I left Connors camp ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p024.jpg) Sept 12 early in the morning left Connors camp riding east if my knolade is right those river run in a Northern direction we rode on the north side of a hollow that was pretty well timbert for a number of miles* here we found the carcus of an antelope. A pire burning with 6 or 8 spit sticks with meat on frying we went through the timber to the south side ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p025.jpg) * Thomas says there was a stream in this hallow a vally with water in it ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p026.jpg) Saw 10 or 12 Indians riding east to far away to shoot at. not untill between 2 & 3 oclock did we have an encounter with them. at this time severl appeard out of a deep gulsh all laying flat on thair horses. as soon as we fired a bunch of 40 or 50 rode out off the gulsh & attempted to rush us before we could relode our guns. we were armed with the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p027.jpg) Spencer rifles. had 8 loads in each gun we shurley gave them a surprise. we dismounted severl & kild severl. if ever enyn body ran it was the dismounted Indians. run, you dont know what running is. we got 3 or 4 off them at long distance & other long distance shots had mutch to do with our suckses in getting through at dark we started down a draw on ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p028.jpg) on the Powder river side followed it down to the river just as we got to the valley we jumpt up 2 Indians one got into the brush & got away. we rode into the river & watter the horses & fill our canteens. rode out on the east side & about ½ mile from the river found Coles trail he had past this point before the rain & snow storm off the 4 & 5 & while ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p029.jpg) I was debating in my mind how far Cole might have marched in the 8 days since he passed that point we heard an Indians signal call & in a short time he was answerd both up & down the the river decided then I would keep right right on instead off hiding through the day time & riding the trail at night as the Genl had ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p030.jpg) instructed me to do. the Indians knew we were in the valley it would have been worse than folly to have undertaken to do so. our horses could not have got eny thing to eat & we only had one days ration with us & I still had mine Sep 13 sun rise we started up the trail rode 3 or 4 miles look down into a small valley where a sper of timber juted out from ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p031.jpg) from the river saw scored of dead horses. I will not try to tell you my feelings & thoughts. rode to the first horse he had halter & picket rope on as had most off them they looked fat & in fine condition. I could not immadgin why a commander would kill his horses & put his men a foot 1500 or 1600 miles from eny base of suply he knew eny ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p032.jpg) thing about. every horse I noticed was shot in the fore head. Cole was to have meet Connor the first of Sept on the yellowstone at the mouth of Toung river Connor was 7 days late in getting on act of building the forts & the big wagon train. when Cole reach Powder river thair were so maney Indians on the west or ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p033.jpg) right hand side going up stream, he did not try to cross the river but went into camp on the east side. the Indians fierd on Coles campfire that night & that was the last fire he had after night. during the night Indians had crossed the river & they forced Cole up the river. he should have crossed & went west to the Toung river. the facts seam to ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p034.jpg) be that his guides did not know where they were. here we saw where a number off wagons and camp equiptage had been burnt. we rode up the trail for a num -ber off miles with out seeing eny Indians about 10 oclock came to a kind off a horse shoe bend. in the valley some thing like this ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p035.jpg) [this map drawing shows a trail cutting through the brush and across a river. The river proceeds around a bend, but the trail cuts straight through.] this bend was coverd so thick with brush that they had to cut a road through. here we ran into 17 Indian 5 of them became good Indians. after they got acrost the river They last & we kept on up the trail ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p036.jpg) after a while they came back to the trail & others came from the tabel land & from the brush untill they were to thick to count, when they prest us to clostly we would stop our horses & fire on them & invaertbly drive them back & scater them. This running contin -ued till about 4 oclock when I saw at some distance up the trail a company formed acrost the trail ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p037.jpg) I thought it was a company of Coles men. when I got close enoug to distinguis them I saw they were Indians blocking the trail. now they were to right & left. front & rear of us. I knew enough of Indian fighting never to retreat it is all ways the retreater who is lost. I still had in mind Casper Collins fated retreat I orderd one off the Pawnees to ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p038.jpg) fire on the Indians that were following us that we would ride to within close shootin distance & stop. Stopt at about 60 or 70 yards from them just at this time I was struck in the right leg with an arrow we broke thair line some ran to the river & some towards the bluff. I had shot the one who stood on the trail. he had his horse fasten ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p039.jpg) to his left arme with a hair larriet. that horse could not get away. I cut the horse loose from the Indian & led him along for a remount in case we needed one. pushed on up the trail. Just before sundown I noticed about 100 yards from the trail some one lying beh -ind a sage bush. I thought it was an Indian I drew up my gun to shoot ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p040.jpg) him. he threw up his arm & called dont shoot I am a white man. I asked how do you come to be here by your self he said he was one off a scouting party that had run into a large party of Indians. that all but him self had been kild that his horse was kild. that he hid in the brush along ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p041.jpg) the river till night then he tried to overtake the command that he threw away his boots as they felt so heavey on his feet he ran through cactus & prickley pears untill he could not walk eny further. I ask him if he could ride. he said he could if he could get on the horse. that he could not stand on his feet. we dismounted & while the two Pawnees ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p042.jpg) helpt him on the Indians horse <&> I paid my compliments to the Indians. who were pressing to with in Shootin distance again. we kept up a runing fight till dark about 9 oclock we were fierd on by Coles outer pickets without being halted. we returned thair fire thinking it was Indians. then we heard the bugel call to arms. no sound befor or since has ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p043.jpg) has sounded so good to me. the camp gardes halted us I told them we were from Connors camp without the countersign. with a mesage for Cole after giving him the mesage & answering questions for him & other officers. I ask Cole why he shot so many horses in one of his camp he said when did you see that ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p044.jpg) camp. I saw it this morning. I He said you dont pretend to tell us you rode from thair to day, I crossed the river at least 3 or 4 miles be -low it. this morning his adj said it was 84 miles to the camp where the greatest number of horses were kild. the horse we got from the Indian, was a goverment horse. belonged to a trooper of the 6 Mich Calvery ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p045.jpg) who had been kild thair were a lot off his belongins in the Sadel pockets I turned the Soldier over to the Drs with out asking who he was. or what regiment he belong to Sep 14 I told Cole if he would give me an escort I would return to Gen Connor & that was a fool thing to do. I was not orderd to report ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p046.jpg) back him. only to find Cole & direct him to the base of Suplyes it was a risk no one is Justifyed in taking. you will note what Capt Palmer say in regard to it he is in error about the escort being Indians they were white soldiers Cole had no Indians with him. Col. Walker & Capt Shepard & Capt J K Wright of the 16th Kans Calvr Regt ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p047.jpg) 39 and Major Hugh =es & Dr Linn of the 2 Mo S.A. told me that at an officers meeting they had decided to leave the Powder river the morn =ing of the 14 & try to reach the Platt River Some 6 or 7 hundred miles east that more than ½ off the men were dismonted that A great many off the men were with out Shoes & many were Suffering with disen =tary & other bowl troubels. That ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p048.jpg) they were killing horse & mules, ever day for rations & cooking the meat with out salt or pepper. that the command was in a deporabel con -dition. that it was A question wether eny one would have lived to reach the Platt river I have told you I did not know the name of the comrade I picked up on that ride nor did I think mutch about him for a good many ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p049.jpg) years, 27 years afterwa -rd all most to the day on Sept 15, 1892 at the State reunion off the G.A.R. at Wichita Kan I Saw this man & after look -ing at him a while I came to the conclus -ion he was the he was the man. I asked him if he was with Cole on Powder river he said yes. but I never saw you before. yes you did I picked you up on Powder river ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p050.jpg) Sept 13, 1865. & took you in on an Inians horse. he said my God are you the one who did that. he is John E Hutson Co. L 2nd Mo Light Art address Argona Sum -ner Co Kans. he gave me a history of his Self while he was in the hosptils, they put him in hosptil at Fort Larimey. then they took him to Levens -worth. from thair to St. Louis. then to the Genl. hosptil Washington City D C ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p051.jpg) 43 after about 18 months they wanted to ampi =tate both his legs his Father would not consent to have it done. in the mean while, the thornes of the cactus he had got in his feet were com =ing out through different parts off his body. he Showed me 142 of them that he had kept. I am yours in F.C&L. C L Thornes Sargent Co. E. 11. o.v.e ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p052.jpg) My Dear Sir after so long a time I am sending you a remn -ents of Connors Powder river expd. these are observation off facts. as I saw them from the stand point off an enlisted man. I hope at least in a measur it is what you want & that you are satisfide that I am the one who went to Powder river & found Cole I saw Lent Creed who was the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p053.jpg) Lieut in North ev of Pawnees at Cripple Creek Col. Some years ago & he said 500 men could not have gone to Powder river when they tryed to go. as to landmarks I Say I had other things to look after otherwise I am pretty observant I joted this down with the intension off coppying it. for correction but desided to send it to you in the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p054.jpg) rough. Just as it is without eny correction I expect to see Hutson next week at the State encamptment of the G. A. R & if I do will ask him to answer eny ques you may ask him about if you write him I shall be pleas to anwser eny other thing for you CST [C.S.Thomas] ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p055.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, June 2, 1920. Mr. John M. Hoover, South Main St., Halstead, Kans. My Dear Mr. Hoover:-- Replying to your letter of May 21, the trip to Sheridan has had to be given up at this time. The Switchmen's strike in St. Louis is so operating on manufacturing that Mr. Littmann is very much upset, and he dare not leave with the prospect that the plant may have to close down. He is a manufacturer of chain. He has had to give up his trip to Europe for this year, and says he would not dare try a trip to Wyoming, the way the labor situation now stands. Mr. Claus, in Lincoln, is quite ill, and says he could not go at this time under any consideration, as he is confined to the house. It is true that I had not planned to go, as I could not get away from Chicago at this time, to go as far as Wyoming, but I expect to be out there the latter part of July and early August, and I would be as eage as ever to meet you there then and have you tell me what happened around old port Phil Kearny and out where the Wagon Box battle took place. I will keep you informed of my movements and hope that we can arrange to be out there together. You know that you can get there with only one change of cars, namely at Kansas City. The Burlington trains run through from Kansas City xx to Sheridan and Seattle without change. Greatly appreciating your appreciation of me in these historical matters, I remain Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p056.jpg) Halstead Kansas 22 June 1920 Mr Camp Chicago Illinois Dear Sir Yours of the 19 is at hand you Do not state that you are gowing with the Party if you are shure I will gow but if you are not I think that it would not do any good. you have studied the ground over Difernt times I am sure you know about all there is to know. I will be glad to gow to Kansas City to meet my Comrads if I know time and place. any time after the 1st of the month will suit me. yours Truly John M Hoover Halstead Kansas ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p057.jpg) Soldiers Home, Calif. July 7 '20 Mr Camp I am reading "Famous Scouts" by Chas H L Johnston L C Page & Co, Boston, Pub's In Chap. XI, "Wild Bill Hicok" the auther is inacurate and misleading. Bill was not with us in the Washita Campaign Also in Chap. XII The "Cinn[---] Scout" speaking of the 3 chiefs Custer held as hostages for delivery of the 2 female captives, he writes 10 Chiefs and names Roman N[---] who was killed the previous summer by Forsyths Scouts on the Ari[---] and Lone Wolf a Kiowa as two of the 10 I sent you the pictures of the 3 and their names Read Custer's own books Also G A Forsyth's, "Thrilling Days in Army Life" ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p058.jpg) Saxton Pa, August 14th 1920. Mr Wm ,Camp. 7740 Union Ave, Chicago Ill. Dear Mr Camp , I write this to say some weeks ago I had a letter from Mr W .L .Wilson , Madison Wis. saying that it would be too late in the Summer to attempt that "Trip over the Bozeman Trail" after he finished his Studies at the State University of Wisconsin at Madison. So this matter will be deferred until another summer. A few days ago I received a letter from the Secretary (J. U. Sanders) of the next meeting of the Scociety of Mont Pioneers at Great Falls Mont to be held on Sept 8 &9th . But great as I should like to be with the Pioneers I fear that the cost of Car fare will be so great that I will not have the funds to spare to make the four Thousand miles "round trip" as you are aware Car fare has "gone up" like the "high cost of living" as soon the Car fare will be boosted one fifth above present rates, to which will be added the "War Tax" and with increase in Pullman sleeping car rates it will take about $200/ for this "Round Trip" I certainly would enjoy meeting my fellow old Pioneers and they seem very glad to meet me . for the reason that Montana History shows I am the only and last living Prospector that were of the Prospecting parties that Discovered and located the FIVE first Placer Gold mining camps in (then Territory of Montana)the State of Mont. and at our past Annual meetings one of the interesting features of the meet- -ings was the Presence of one or more of the men that made the Discoveries of the first five mining Camps <,> On a card I enclose a list of the men that were in these Prospecting Parties. with the Dates and places of location of Mining camps. And I will add that at our Pioneer meeting in Butte in 1911 , Hon Granville Stuart ,and myself were the two of these original Praspecting parties<,> Now I did not attend for a few years leaving this to Mr Stuart as the distance being so great I did not attend the Annual meetings. But ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p059.jpg) the Meeting for 1917 was to be held in Livingston, and as Mr Stuart lived in Missoula, the distance was too great for his feebleness to stand, So in order that the presence of one of the Discoverres, would be still kept up, I want to the Livingston meeting in 1917. Now the next meeting was selected at Annnaconda for 1918, this being nearer to the Home of Granville Stuart, Mr was present but in a very feeble condition and died in less than a month later leaving me the only living of the early Prospectors. so in order to keep up the Claim of the presence of one of the Original Prospectors I left here about a year ago and was at our last meeting onthhe 29 & 30th of last August in the City of Butte and surely I enjoyed that "Meet" Now Senator Clark and J. U. Sanders are old personal friends of the writer, and I have written them both that I feared that the trip of 4000 miles would take more money than I could spare considering the increased cost of Car fare War Tax, ect. Now would I be asking too much of You to ? to write to our Secratery (Mr Saun- -ders) and suggest that an effort be made to defray my travelling expenses out and return, of if you are acquainted with Mr Clark write him to the same effect as the Senator is a Multi-Millionare/ he likely would give this matter his attention. and would ask you to consider this "suggestion" confidential and should my trip expenses by paid I surely will try to meet you as I go out or return, kindly let me hear from you , xx I may have told you my Home is in Narberth Pa (2 miles west of Philadelphia) but during the Hot weather I am spending my time among the Mountains of this State 200 miles west of Narberth Pa. But expect to be with my Daughter in Narberth next winter. I am in good health but getting feeble from old age having passed the 4 score mark in years last March. Sincerely Yours.
----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p060.jpg) Sept 2nd 1920 W.M.Camp, Esq. Chicago, Ills. Dear Sir Enclosed you will map of the Smith Creek Battle ground from Mr Quinlan, hopeing that you had a pleasant trip home I remain Very Respectfully JB Hawkins, 601. N. Montana Ave Miles City Montana ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p061.jpg) Dante S. D. 10/14/20 W. M. Camp, Chicago, Ill- Dear Sir - Relative to your letter of the 7th inst. will say that I am not acquainted with any person by the name of Michel Bouyer in connection with Custer's Fight I had a brother, under Gen. Miles division, named John Brugmier. (Scout) but have no recollections ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p062.jpg) of he ever acting in that capacity under Custer or his regiment. Thanking you for thinking me so honored I am — Very respectfully Mrs. Cass. Conger ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p063.jpg) Mohawk. N. Y. Nov. 23- 1920. Mr Dear Mr. Camp:— Your's of the 15th inst;, is received. With regard to the history of the "Adobe Walls." I find the best account in George Bird Grinell's Book "The Fighting Cheyennes" He states (Page 308) that "Wm Bent "sent down to the south-east from Fort Bent's Fort a party to "build a trading fort on the South Canadian River to trade "with the Kiowas, Comanches and Apaches. Just when is not "known; but it seems probably that it was before 1840—Perhaps "before 1837 as suggested in an earlier chapter. Up to that time "the Kiowas, Comanches and Apaches had been at bitter war "with the Cheyennes and Arapahoes, some of whom <(of the latter Indians)> were "almost always about Bent's Old Fort, and the likelihood of "meeting their enemies would naturally have prevented "these more southern tribes from going there to trade." "The fort was built and some of Col. Bent's best men were "sent down there with goods to start a trade. The men chosen were "Casson, Smith, Murray, Maxwell, Finher and two Mexicans, a "cook and a herder." "John Smith states they were directed to trade for horses "and mules chiefly. They corralled the animals every night "inside the Fort." On page 45 same book Mr. Grinell states that some time after a fight with the Kiowas (which was in 1837) a party of Southern Arapahoes went to a trading fort to trade, which he believes was at the Adobe Walls; as they approached the trading store they saw a party of Comanches, Kiowas and Apaches there ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p064.jpg) in camp and holding war dances." Peace was made with the Comanches, Kiowas and Apaches near Fort Bent in the Summer of 1840. From what I read in Grinell's book I believe the trading fort at Adobe Walls was built about 1836. I do not believe it was built before that date as Texas did not get her freedom from Mexico until 1836. And the new mexicans would not have allowed an American post built there before that date. From Lieut Abert's conversation with St Vrain in Dec. 1846. It seems the tea[-] was abandoned in 1845; for a time at least. Billy Dixon in his book states that St. Col. John P. Hatch was there in 1848 with the Dragoons and it was a ruin then. But I think Dixon is wrong in his dates. I have Col. Hatch's record and he did not go to Texas until 1852 and went to New Mexico in 1856. On Page 2 Same Book. Grinell states that Fort Bent was finished in 1831— Grinell has lived with the Cheyennes and Knows more of their history than any other white man. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p065.jpg) Dixon's book was written from memory and he is way off" in his dates. Dixon in his book page 172 states that when hunting in Southern Kansas he met Charley Powell, an old soldier of the Third Cavalry who stated that he marched with the 3rd Cavalry from Fort Smith Arkansas to Fort Bascom New Mexico in 1863. and some of the soldiers crossed over the Canadian River and looked at the ruins. "Have of the buildings were standing." Now the truth is the Third Cavalry marched up the Canadian in 1866. after the Civil War was over— Col. Hawe was the Colonel, and on our scouts and expeditions into the Panhandle of Texas, and in western Indian Territory from 1873 to 1875, we frequently crossed his road,— which was then known as Howe's Trail, there were two parallel ditches in the hard prairie where the wagons had passed, a foot deep. There have only been [illegible deletion] bodies of troops that moved up the Canadian River from Ft Smith, Arkansas, to New Mexico. The first was Capt Marcy in 1849 with emigrants and an Infantry excort. The other was the Third Cavalry in 1866— ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p066.jpg) Gregg went over the same route in 1839 and in his book "Commerce of the Prairies." He ought to have something to say about the "Adobe Walls." I have not got a copy of his book but I read it in the War Department Library about 25 years ago. I do not remember what he said about the Adobe Walls. There are 3 books that aught to have some thing to say on the subject. I have not been able to see the books recently:— 1. Greggs Commerce of the Prairie 2. Aberts reconnaisance of the [-]andian River in 1845 3. Capt. Marcy's March to new mexico in 1849. En[---] "The Prairie Traveller". I believe Dixon states somewhere in his book that there were ruins, old foundations and graves on Wolf Creek. I should like to see that subject investigated some time, but I do not believe they were ever built by Americans or have anything to do with Bent's trading or the "Adobe Walls" It is very remarkable that the history of the Panhandle of Texas has been so little written of. It took 50 years of explorations from Pike in 1805 until Marcy of 1854 to find the scource of the Main Red River—Your's very truly F. West [The following is written sideways in the left margin] In answer to your question. I do not think there is the least doubt but that Bent & St Vrain built the adobe walls, and I believe that was the place meant by St Vrain in his talk with St. Abert in 1846. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p067.jpg) Sam Bruquier 25 McLaughlin I.D. 1-12-21 Mr W M Camp Dear friend I was sure surprised this morning when I opened your letter well I was sure glad to hear from you and to hear you are well, as for my self I have been in a very bad shape on the 2nd day of Aug 1917 something started on the side of my face and head. well [-]see then I have been to Rochester W[--] and to Wis. and many other Drs in the country but nothing doing. I am just the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p068.jpg) same I was 3 years ago its something terrible to put up with. I may go down to Aberdeen some day and try some other Dr again, it makes me feel so that I am no company for any one and no one is any company for [---] are me of the first I have written to for 6 months Grey Eagle is still living but I do not know of the old Sitting bull widow yes a great many of the older ones have gone since you was here that time. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p069.jpg) 27 Well I am glad that you managed to a Photo of brother John. for Culbertsin was here during the early spring and went to Washington D. C. about some per[-]y pay ment which the U.S. Gov't took any away from the Indians in 80 & 81. well if you should ever come this way called and see me I shall be glad to meet again Good-by Respectfully yours Samuel Bruquier ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p070.jpg) Jan. 25, 1921. W. M. Camp, Esq. Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir:— Owing to the death of Profesor Allen C. Thomas last month your letter to him of 1/14 has been handed to me for answer. The only recent book on the work of Friends for the Indians is entitled "Friends & the Indians" published by the Friends' Indian Committee. It contains a chapter of the work of Friends for the Indians under Pres. Grant and his successors, until 1914. Each chapter contains reference to the chief printed and manuscript source material. The Friends' Book Store, 304 Arch St., Phila., will quote you a price on the book. I think it is $1.50. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p071.jpg) Wishing you success in your studies and writing, Most truly, R. W. Kelsey. Kelsey ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p072.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., Feb. 5, 1921. Mr. Frank D. Cole, 1727 Waverly Place, St. Louis, Mo. Dear Sir:-- For some twenty years I have been studying the Indian wars of the West, with a view to write a history of the same, and I have spent eighteen summer vacations out in the plains country following campaign trails and interviewing Indians on the reservations. Among other trails, I have been over the ground of the Powder River expedition of 1865, sever- al times, both the route taken by Gen. Connor and that taken by Col. Nel- son Cole, of the 2nd Mo. Lt. Artillery, and I have talked with both en- listed men who fought with him and Indians who fought against him. In company with early settlers of the country I have visited the points where the horses were killed, and many of the ranches up there have an- vils made from the iron [illegible deletion] 90-lb. axles of the wagons that were burned when the horses gave out or died. A good many of the ranchers take inter- est in that sort of history, and we purpose planting markers at historic landmarks of that campaign, as we have done considerably on some other of the Indian campaign trails. I mention these things to inform you that I have taken some pains to get accurate information of the matters that I have been studying. I am told that you are a son of this/ Col. Nelson Cole, who became a Brigadier General in the Spanish-American war and died in 1899. For historical purposes I would like to have a photograph or portrait of him, preferably one of the Civil War period, if it is a clear likeness and not too yellow with age for reproduction. Can you supply me with such? I might explain that this historical work of mine is not a business enterprise, and I am not seeking subscriptions or anything of that sort. Any assistance that you can render me in the way of collecting material will be much appreciated. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p073.jpg) W M Camp Smicksburg Pa 2/10/21 Chicago Ill, Dear Sir Your favor of the 7th at hand was glad to have a letter from some one who served in Old K Troop of the 1st from your letter I infere you was not in the co at the time I was I joined K Troop in the later part of 1869 at camp Grant Ari the company them was commanded by Capt J.R. Dulkelberger 2 Leut. Bacon while in Arizona we did scout duty & excorting wagon Trains and at various times come in contact with the Apaches in the white Mountains sadle Mountains Mount Tomuble now an then. We would get a few of them by taking by suprise after marching all night in early may 1870 after killing a mass Kenedy & I sereal two suttlers in the can- patso River Vally by following the Indian with Manuel a Montezuemua Indian the cheif of scouts at Tucson in five days ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p074.jpg) The command made a suprise attack & killed 48 out of 52. [-] boys about 12 years of age we took with us one of boys stayed with R Troop & was named Sunday because we got on sunday morning the 10— of May 1870 the other boy went with co B of the 3rd Cav.. Sunday was still with the company when I was discharged at Klamath Ore. 1873 about a month later while out on a scout near the st Carlos river we had another run in and had our Farrier Jo. Groff killed in a [---] fight in Feb. 71 the company was sent north to Halleck Nev. for a rest Capt Dunkelberger having resigned at Benicia Barracks Cal. we got our Captain James A Biddle & 1st Leitt Chas. C. Cr[-]sson (Cr[-]sson was the Judge advocate at the Bergdoll Trial) Then we had 3 of the finist Offisers in the service sec. to none the company stayed at Halleck untill Feb. 1873 was was then sent to the Lava beds in Northern Cal. & Southern Oregon ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p075.jpg) arriving at the Lava beds it fell to K to do all the scouting altho B & G of the 1st were there being a short Term man. I was put on the mail in company with Mr. Lewis Land we carried the Dispatchs telling of the killing of Canby Lord, to Yreka for Washington returning in time (after riding 156 miles). in Time for the fight that terminded the mirdoe campaign Capt Wrighes co I K Inf. was almost all killed in the Lava beds I enlisted under Alias of Henry Wilson to hide from the law for thumking a fellor on account of a young lady Capt. J A Biddle was promoted to Maj of the six cav. while in the lava beds then capt Chas Bendeir to commad I seen him as I was left behind to be discharge while the co. went to Walla Walla Wash. and was Issac Looney ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p076.jpg) will close hoping you are fully convinced that I was a member of K Troop 1s US Cav. Yours Resp B. S. Bivenour Bivenour Smicksburg Pa P.S. If there is anything you would like to know about company I will cheerfully give it that is all I can remember ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p077.jpg) [The following written in the top right corner] Nelson Cole fight Dan H Bowman Febry 14th 1920 Mr W M Camp 7740 Union Avenue Chicago My dear Mr. Camp Sure I ment , Walker instead of Sawyer, who is the man that built the Mountain road about that time & was corralled by Red Cloud I think it was, who bat him off with a lot of beans & Calico & C. one of the Bent boys was with RC was he not! now as to Walkers report I thot you found this report just as we were about to leave I must be mistaken of course but it is strong in my mind that you dug it up just as we were leaving. Do not fail to keep me posted as to your Montana trip this year & we will go & look up this Cole Trail & settle it. I am confident I have the dape now all right. The only place the divide comes so close to Powder River (6 or 8 miles) & in plain sight is on the head of Alkih & his lowest point down the river was on what we know as Hogans bottom just above the Bridge on the west side There were some waggons abandoned here as well as DM Stores Horse ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p078.jpg) (Horse) & mule shoes &c &c we will at all over taking sadde horses of necessary maybe Grinnell would like to go with us I will write him if you would like to have him but the more of us the harder to secure proper transportation & less mobile you know—At the entrance head of north fork of Alkili I am told is an old trail Caming down over the rim very steep & now almost impossible for horseriders this would corrispond to the to the point where they came down I think. It will be lots of fun to look it over I am keen for it Keep me posted. The weather is just fine almost spring like no winter yet stock have done fine & we have used no feed as yet we are all well & I for got to say Berts have a new baby (not all together un expected of course) a girl & they have named her Barbara after my mother & grandmother I am proud of it the with kind wishes to you & the wife I am sincerely yours Dan H Bowman [The following written diagnally in the bottom left corner] answered 5/31/21 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p079.jpg) 427 west Gold St, Butte Mont, Feby, 18th, 1921 Mr W.M.Camp Chicago Ill, Dear Sir I have your letter of the 13th, Inst, my article in the Springfield Republican which you say you read, was not an account of the Custer Massacre, and was not intended as such, its only purpose was to refute the statements of Dr Eastman which appeared in the same paper regarding a matter of whic he knows nothing about. I have a very complete diary of all the important happen -ings of that great expedition from beginning to end, and some day I shall give it to the Public who have been so often misled by articles written by men who have no personal knowledge of the facts. As was said in my article you refer to, the Custer expedition has a history not generally known, Genl, Custer, a Brilliant soldier was the victim of intrigue and treachery, and the many accounts ofthe dreadful tragedy on the Little Big Horn were but little short of slander,of an Honorable manly man. He was called to washington in the winter of 1875-6 to testify before a senate committee the investigating Indian affairs. I stood within 3 feet of him as he was about to board the train at the little n village of Bismarck, when the assembled popula -tion implored mi him to tell the great danger the villagers were in from Indians (who were crazed by years of plunder and mistreatment) he replied if they want to know the truth I will tell it, he did,and his story drove many of the high ups, to cover and obscurity, but they had a come back, and its effect was felt on the Little Big Horn on June 25th, next following----- His testimony before that committee was of a character as to entitle him to the admiration of every honest American. I do not know the Kelly messanger between Creek and Terry, you mention. I assume you are not aware how Genl, Terry appeared in Connection with that expedition, Genl Custer had been selected by the war dept, as leader, with Creek and Giben to assist, but after his testimony before that Committee, his appointment was cancelled. I was at the mouth of Powder River the morning of June 11th, [illegible deletion], 76 when I saw Genl, Custer the last time, I was not a teamster, nor a soldier. Respectfully M. D. Kelly ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p080.jpg) Feb.27-th,1921. Mr.W.M.Camp. Chicago, Ill. My Dear Mr. Camp:-- It has been some time since I received your letter of Feb.7-th. I am glad you called my attention to the Statement of Grace Raymond Hebard concerning the removal of the Reno Monument. I thought that I had made arrangments to have it moved last fall. Lately in Buffalo I met Mr.Clapp,who lives in the vicinity of the Old Fort, and asked him about the removal. He and his neighbors had not moved it, as per agreement with me. It still stands on the old site beside the road at the school house north of Sussex. Mr.Clapp has agreed again that he and his neighbors will move it,as they are very anxious to have the monument on the site. I must confess that I have never been to Old Fort Reno. I supposed until last fall,when I talked to Mr.Clapp about the removal of the monument that it was located on the east side of the river. I planned to move it myself last fall,but our bad storms coming the fore part of November put an end to that plan,and it seemed a very good arrangment to have the people down there, who were interested, move it. I was on the board of County Commissioners that placed the stone at the present site. The plan at that time was to place a bronze tablet on the monument, stating distance and direction of Fort Reno. Since receiving your letter,I am not disappointed that the monument has not been moved. I shall go down to the fort as soon as summer comes again, and look the ground over myself. I have Dr.Hebard's pamphlet, but had not found time or taken interest enough to read it until I reveived your letter. I do not know what she means by the statement concerning the location of the Wagon Box Fight. I am sorry to say that Dr.Hebard is not always accurate in her statements. I found several errors in looking over this pamphlet. Not of much importance,but just misleading to one not acquainted with the country. She has done a splendid work helping locate the sites of a lot of these old forts,trading posts and so forth. I feel that sonme one with more time and money to spend than she has had at her command must supplement this work with further research. But to go back to the Wagon Box Fight, the location as pointed out by Littman and Hoover, was nearly a half mile from the site as decided on by Gibson. I believe that Gibson was mistaken and that Hoover and Littman were somewhere near the right location. That all three were somewhere near the location will answer the purpose of history, and that the exact spot could be accurately located by these men after fifty years is improbable. If in a few years any one of the three had settled in the Piney Country, and had occasionally visited the spot during those fifty years, there could have been no question of the testimony. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F31_B2_F9_p081.jpg) I am glad to know of the celebration at the Custer Battlefield next June. I cannot promise my self to be there, but hope to. I have been on the Custer Battlefield but once, the fall of 1886 I have passed and repassed on the railroad without stopping. The people one would meet at this celebration would well repay the trip time for the trip. I have had a letter from Mrs. Clarence S. Paine, Sec'y-Treas of the Mississippi Valley Historical Association. She stated that you had proposed my name for membership. Later she sent me Proceedings of the Association for 1913-1914 and the March 1920 Historical Review. I appreciate your calling my attention to this association and proposing my name for membership. I shall not become a member at once or purchase all the literature, which I wish to do later, on account of our money stringency, but thank you none the less putting me in touch with the organization. We have had an unusually mild winter and all live stock is doing well It is half tragic to travel over the State and see no cattle or sheep on the range, last winter we stock men fought for our very existance. This winter we are hanging on by grace of the over stained banks and can hope for nothing much better for a year or two. I have had several letters during the winter from Geo.Bird Grinnell. He is quite well, and his wife is somewhat improved in health. zI see Thomson occasionally in Sheridan. I wish I could go and visit him. but do not know when it will be. With best wishes, Very Sincerely [-] R A Candit ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p001.jpg) EDWARD PIGFORD Suck no 3 Pa March 12th 1921 Mr Camp Sir i am writeing you a few lines hoping to find you well i have had a leter from a man named wo Taylor from orange mass he was a soldger in the indian war i knowed him well There is a Dispute a Bout how saw tinker shoat he said he was talking to Bill at the time he was shout and he says Gordan and morros said they were talking to him 2 over ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p002.jpg) i claim the same thing as i wasnt more then 4 feet Be hind him when he was shoat so i looked a Round and i saw the indian that fired the shoat i Puled up and took a shoat at him But he Droped of his Poney as i Puled the triger the Ball hit the Poney in the Back and he went Down But the man gumped up and started 2 Run So i got 2 more shoats at him and mist him he got Be hind what i thung was a Big Rock. So i went on ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p003.jpg) it is a long time cinces i have heard from you so i wish to know if you have got that Book Comtleted yet as i want one Just as soon as they are put on the market they will Sell like hot Cakes i hope i aint annoinon you By writeing this leter i hope you will B kind a nuff to ancer it John Steieling the Bucher wasnt in that fight he was left at fort ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p004.jpg) Rice and 3 authers i cant recall there names but think magmer Rickets was left at fort Rice he Drove the water wagon i supose you remember when you at my place a bout 10 years ago we often talk a bout on yours Res from ED Pigford Lock no. 3. P.a Taylor had a smal picture at the botom did he git it you it so and you have aney more plase send me one E.D.Pigford ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p005.jpg) Miami Texas. March 8-1921 Mr W. M. Camp. Chicago Ill. My dear Sir:- I was very glad indeed to get your letter of the 23 inst. and appreciate your kindness in pointing out the typographical errors in the book "Life of Billy Dixon." I dont know just when I will be able to get out a new edition not sooner than next year I am sure. I think I have already told you that I wanted to bring out some of my own family history in connection with the first settlirs of Virginia in the next I recived quite a lot of information along that line on my visit to my old home last summer. but since I came back in my correspondence with Mr William E. Connelley Dec. of the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p006.jpg) Kansas Historical Society. he has put some new ideas in my head. so I now plan to go again this fall and while getting additional information also get some photographs which I think would be of interest in illustrating the book. The old log home built by my great-grandfather Lewis who was a thorough bred Irish man, and who came into possesion of the land on which he built the house through a grant given by the King of England is still standing and this is one place I wanted to visit but did not, but will the next time I go, and get a picture of it. My oldest son still works for the Santa Fe and as he got me a pass to Va last summer I feell like I can go again at very little expense. I am sending you under separate cover a copy of The Canadian Record which has an article written by my self which ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p007.jpg) will be self explanatory. I dont remember whether I told you when you was down here any thing about mr Long or whether I have ever mentioned him in our correspondence but if not I undoubtedly failed to do my duty. However, I cannot blame my self altogether. It is only lately that I have gotten very well acquainted with him and learned that he and my husband were such close friends. during the early days of the Panhandle. Mr Long is just the person whom you would enjoy talking with. He is very quiet, unassuring and impresses you at once as being thoroughly reliable. I knew years ago that my husband knew and loved "Johnie" Long but not to the extent that I have found out lately. I wont go into details con- cerning the last trip out to mr Teas ranch as I couldnt explain the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p008.jpg) result of what we found much better than what I have in the Record. Mr N. P. Willis of Canadian suggested to me last fall that I take the finding of the Buffalo wallow site up with Mr Long. saying at the time that there was no use to wait on Amos Chapman any longer. I at and wrote Mr Long asking him if he would go out with a party and try to find the place. He wrote me he would go yes, and I said in my letter to Mr Long that I would be willing to abide by his decision in locating the spot We were a long time getting off but when one has no conoyance of their own they have to wait other people pleasure. Monday after we made the trip I sat down and very hurriedly wrote the account out for the Canadian Record and the Miami Chief I did not mean to write as I did at all but when I began to write the things I [--]t down came into ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p009.jpg) my mind so I put them down. Now there is several questions I would like to have your opinion on concerning who is the most capable in making the final decision of the exact depression on the mosquite flat Mr Long pointed out to us a little over a week ago. Amos Chapman? we must remember [---] if he would come, was badly wounded right in the beginning of the fight so I do not feel like he spent much thought on "landscape" Would the soldier with Maj Prices command remember the place and be able to identify it or would any of the Indians who fought there be any better authority than Mr Long. I have given the matter a great deal of thought from every angle, and I honestly believe Mr Long is the best authority we have I am anxious for your comment. H[--] sure you will be sincere in whatever ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p010.jpg) view you take and that it will be worth hearing. I dont know just what more will be made to mark the spot. The Chamber of Commerce at Canadian has led me to believe that Hemphill Co. would see that the place was marked if found. In todays mail I sent Amos Chapman a copy of the Canadian Record. Also wrote him just as nice a letter as I knew how. I asked him if he knew Mr Long personally and what he thought about him being able to locate the battle grounds. I told him I was anxious for him to be satisfied with the location, and that I would be glad if he would come over and visit the place. I am afraid it was time and ink wasted, still, I have a mighty good feeling for Amos Chapman and would like to please him in the matter. Very Sincerely Olive Dixon. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p011.jpg) Columbus Ohio March 11th/21 W M Camp Chicago Ill Dear Sir Your letter of March 5th/21 received in due time answer has been Delayed on acct of Rush of Business. I am Sorry I am unable to help you any in the matter of pictures or photos of either Col Wm O Collins or his son Casper although on Intimate terms with Both of them. I dont Remember of ever seeing a picture of either of them. Neither do I know of any articles printed in either magazines or news papers you probably know of the Death of Lt Casper Collins and the Colonel and his wife passed away soon after the civil war Ended. I never knew he had a daughter. I think it hardly possible th to find a picture or photo of Either of them I have a Roster of all the Ohio Cavalry which gives a partial History of the 11th Ohio Cavalry with an account of thier service and the Engagements they were in with the Indians. I had a few Experiences my self while acting as messenger for Col Collins. but as that is not what you asked for I will not Relate them. If you want the account of the services of the regiment as given in the Roster I have. I will be glad to give it too you anything I can do that will help you any I will be glad to do. Hoping you may succeed in geting what you want to complete your History ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p012.jpg) I Remain Respt yours J. B. Hughey Columbus Ohio 747 Edwards St ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p013.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago,March 13,1921. Mr. R.D.Wilson, 307 South Chestnut St., Newcomerstown, Ohio. Dear Sir:-- I have seen your name mentioned in the National Tribune as one of the veterans of the 4th U.S. Cavalry who was with Gen. Mackenzie in his raid on the Kickapoos and Lipans in Mexico, in 1873, and you would like to learn of others who were on that expedition. Capt. Robert G.Carter, U.S.Army retired, who lives in Washington, and Col. Chas.A.P.Hatfield, U.S.Army, Retured, who lives in Baltimore, were with Mackenzie on that campaign. There is also an enlisted man liv- ing at the Soldiers' Home, in Washington, named Isaac N.Bailey, who is a survivor of that campaign. As you write that you were with the 4th Cavalry from 1870 to 1875 I presume you must have been with Mackenzie in his Red River fight and other battles of the year 1874 in Texas. Have you ever written anything about these various battles besides what appears in the National Tribune of March 10, 1921? If so I would be glad to have references to the arti- cles or suggestions as to where to look for the information. I will ex- plain that I am making studies of the Indian Wars of the West in prepa- ration for writing a history, and of late I have been paying a good deal of attention to the Indian campaigns in Texas. Any information that you can give me will be much appreciated. Yours sincerely, W.M.Camp. [The following hand written on the bottom half of the page] Newcomerstown Ohio. 4/14 - 1921 I never writen any article relative to those Battles you mention. I was discharged January 15-1875. My Reg was under marching Orders for Fort Sill. I.T. My Brother, now ded; was in the Red River Fight you speak of. I remember Capt R.G.Carter & Col Charls, A.P.Hatfield. Hatfield was a Lieut at time, if I rember correctly. Capt R.G. Carter was with Mckinzie on his big campaig aganst the Indian in Texas in October 1870. That was my first real Introduction in real hard ships of Frontier Campaigning. We had had some experience, but nothing like that. I think Captain Carter, sure gave a good discription of that campaign in his article to the National Tribune this last winter. He aught to give some knowledg of the Red River Expidition. Respct. [The following stamped in the bottom right corner] R.D. Wilson 307.S.CHESTNUT ST NEWComerstown OHIO ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p014.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., March 14, 1921. Mr. Mark L. Goodwin, 620 Albee Bldge, k Washington, D. C. Dear Sir:-- I regret that there was not a better opportunity to get ac- quainted when we met at the recent dinner of the Order of Indian Wars, and I left the city the next morning. I think that I told you I had been following the trails of the Indian campaigns of the West for many years, for the purpose of histor- ical studies. North of the Republican river I have been over the country rather thoroughly, in the last twenty years, but down in Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas I have made only four trips, in that many years, and, of course, I have not much more than made a beginning at the "explorations" that I hope to make before I get through. I have interviewed the Southern Cheyennes and Arapaho to some extent, but as for the Comanches, Kiowas and Prarie Apaches I have gotten no further than to put them on my "slate" I have traveled over the ground of Gen. Custer's campaigns and part of Gen. Miles', in Indian Territory and Texas Panhandle, but hope to be able to follow up the ground of more of Miles' campaigns and get at those of Mackenzie and others in the course of the next year or two. I gain much by extending my acquaintance locally, and the next time I meet you I shall hope to be able to talk over with you the campaign territory and ask you to give me a steer to some of the old-timers down in that part of the country. About 18 months ago I visited the Canadian River country, in the Panhandle, and went to see the site of the Adobe Walls battle, the site of Capt. Lyman's fight, and then, assisted by the Widow of Billy Dixon, we made a search for the famous sit of the famous "Buffalo Wallow" fight, but without success. My visit, however, atirred up the people of the towns of Canadian and Mobeetie and they have made two searches, by parties, since then to try to discover the site of this fight. If you are interested in the frontier history of Texas I think we can find some things in common when we may chance to be thrown together again. As for me, I have not more than "scratched the surface" of local history down there, but I am greatly in love with the subject and hope to be able to find time to get at it before long. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p015.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, March 14, 1921. Mr. J. J. Long, Mobeetie, Texas. Dear Sir:-- As a means of recreation and diversion I have been studying the Indian Wars of the West for many years, and about 18 months ago I visited the Panhandle country for a few days. In company with Mrs. Olive Dixon I went to the site of the Adobe Walls fight, up the Canadian from the town of that name, and then we visited the site of Capt. Lyman's fight near the Washita, and made a sort of preliminary search for the site of the Buffalo Wallow fight, in which Dixon, Amos Chapman and four soldiers stood off a large party of Indians. Before we did this I had visited Mr. Chapman and tried to bring him over to help look up the site, but he pleaded previous engagements. I have now had a letter from Mrs. Dixon and a copy of the Canadian local paper in which I find that you assisted in locating the site of this fight recently. The account is interesting, and innit I find that you were one of the teamsters who were corraled with Capt. Lyman's train, just north of the Washita, while on the way with supplies to Gen. Miles, who was encamped on Mc Clellan creek. Such being the case I wish to ask you a question, to help clear up a matter that has often been in my mind. As I understand it, Capt. Kingsbury came out from Camp Supply and relieved Lyman, who then broke corral and then went on south to join Gen. Miles. The same Indian who gave up the siege when Kingsbury showed up were the ones who attacked Dixon, Chapman and their party on Sept. 12. Now since the Buffalo Wallow fight was not far from the main trail over which Lyman took his train south that same morning, how was it that the fight at the Wallow was not discovered by Lyman as he marched past? I am told that the Wallow was not more than ½ mile from the Camp Supply trail. Am I correct in my dates? That is, did not the Wallow fight oc- cur on the same morning that Lyman broke corral and marched south? and was the Wallow fight not going on while Lyman [illegible deletion] marched past, almost in sight of the Wallow? I would like to know your comment on this ques- tion. May I ask you further, as to how early in the day Lyman started from the point where he had been surrounded? and did Kingsbury [-] escort him south from there or go back to Camp Supply? I will greatly appreciate any information or comment that you will give me. When I was in Canadian, in October, 1919, some one gave me your name and address, and I had you down as one whom I expected to call upon should I get to Mobeetie some time, which I still hope to be able to do in the course of my historical investigations. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p016.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, March 14, 1921. Col. Frank West, 40 Orchard St., Mohawk, N.Y. My Dear Col. West: -- You know about the so-called Buffalo Wallow fight, in which Amos Chapman, William Dixon and four enlisted men of your own regiment stood off a large band of Indians nearly a whole day, which Dix- on gives in his book as Sept. 12. This fight occurred only a few miles southwest of the point whereCapt. Lyman's command was surrounded by the same band of Indians, so it is supposed. The distance from your "corral" to the "Wallow" may not have been more than five miles, anyhow probably less than ten miles--the exact site has been lost. Dixon states that their fight began soon after daylight, and that it was only ½ mile from the trail to Camp Supply. I am not clear as to the time relation of the fights at the two . places--that is at Lyman's Corral and at the Wallow. If the fighting at the Corral was over with before the Indians attacked the men at the Wal- low, how did Lyman's command get past the Wallow without knowing that a fight was on there? If the Wallow was only ½ mile from the trail it would seem that Lyman's command would have heard the firing, even if the Indians who were circling around were not in sight, as the troops marched past. If Capt. Lyman broke corral and marched on southwest on Sept. 12 the only way to reconcile this matter would be that he must have started very early in the morning. Or have I got the date of Lyman's march past this point wrong? Do you recall the date? and how early in the morning did you get started? Also, did Lieut. Kingsbury after relieving you, go on with Lyman, or back to Camp Supply? [Illegible deletion] It is supposed that when Lieut. Kingsbury and his company showed up at Lyman's corral the Indians pulled off immediately and started off to the southwest, on the trail, and in this way ran into the party of six men at the Wallow, but I can not reconcile all of what has been stated for the facts. On Sept. 13, according to Dixon's book, Maj. Price, of the 8th Cavalry, with a battalion, came up to the Wallow where the six men had the fight the day before, but the book is wrong where it states that it was price's command that relieved Capt. Lyman near the Washita. Any information or comment that you can give me regarding this matter will [--] likely serve to clear me up on it, and will be much appreciated. Yours sincerely, P.S.- Is Dixon right where he says Price went off, on Sept 13, leaving the six men (one dead) at the Wallow? One account has it that Price sent there men, under escort, until they were sent by Gen. Miles command, and that Miles then sent them & Supply in an ambulance Di[-] you meet Gen. Miles command farther north than Mc Clellan creek? ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p017.jpg) Paintville Ky. 3/15 1921 Mr. W. M. Camp Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir Yours recd I joined the 5 Co C in 1872 Served 5 years I was not in the 5 in 1869 = Buffalo Bill was with the Reg before I Jonid it but left for some years he was with us in The Black but him and Texas Jack left Command up There and never Joined in agin dr[--]ing my enlistment I was orderd out off of the expedition on account of Injuries I do not know of any Thing I Could tell you that would be of any Intrest Hoping I may hear from you agin I remain your Comarads P. L. Davis Box 60 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p018.jpg) FRANK WEST Mohawk New York March 15 1921 Mr. W. M. Camp. Chicago. Ill - Dear Mr. Camp: -- Your's of the 14th inst., is received. I have my notes before me, taken at the time and will answer your questions by referring to the notes. The "Buffalo - Wallow" fight of Dixon and others, occured on the morning of Sept. 12, 1874. From my notes I quote "Firing Ceasedat 7 a. m." xxxxxxx <(at Lyman's corral.) > a larger body of Indians was seen crossing the divide towards Gaguby Creek" (That is They moved south from Their camp on the Washita Towards Gaguiby Creek.) The Indians had been camped about 2 1/2 miles south - west of Lyman's Camp during the fight with Lyman. The fight with Dixon and others at The "Wallow" must have been about four miles south of the Washita. We were watching the Indians move out from their camp and the distance must have been at least six miles for we never heard a shot fired by Dixon's party. The Indians appeared to be following South over the wagon Trail made by Gen. Miles Commander (; when The command went south To Red River. Dixons party was Evidently following The same Trail ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p019.jpg) going north when he met the Indians and then left the trail and went to the "Buffalo Wallow." I went over the ground 3 or 4 days later with Chaffea's Company and saw where it was as Chaffea showed me. Chaffea rescued Dixon's Party. 1st Sergt Woodell who was shot badly in the "Wallow" while with Dixon's party was the First Sergeant of Chaffea's Troop "I" of the 6th Cavalry. I am pretty sure the distance was about 4 miles South of the Washita River. The distance must have been at least 6 miles from Lyman's "Corral." You ask "how did Lyman's Command get passed the "Wallow" without knowing that a fight was on there? I reply that Lyman's train and his Command never did pass the "Wallow", after Lyman's Command was Corralled! I quote from my notes. Sept 12. 1874. "Firing ceased at 7 a.m. I charged the hill in rear of the water hole (with my detachment) a large body of indians was seen crossing the divide going towards Gageby Creek. There were 25 Indians behind the hill back of the water hole <(near the ayman Corral)">. The Cavalry took the hill and the Infantry got water. The indians after a few shots fled. A small party of Indians hovered near Camp all day." That was on the 12th of Sept ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p020.jpg) Page Quotation from my notes. "Sept 13. Remain in Camp all day. Price's Command passed at Sunset (going north) It rained all day." Sept 14. "K" Troop 6th Cavalry arrived at our camp at 2.30 a.m." (from Camp Supply 2nd [---]y) We then broke camp on the morning of Sept. 14, and moved down to the crossing of the Washita River about a mile, and there "Chaffea and us at the crossing of the Washita with 3 badly wounded men." I remember seeing Dixon, Amos Chapman and 1st Sergt Woodell,—whom Chaffea had picked up at the "Wallow." This was on the morning of Sept. 14. Chaffea had been sent in advance by Gen. Miles to look for the Supply Train. Gen. Miles and a part of his command arrived in the afternoon . and went into camp . as soon as we met Chaffea in the morning and learned that Miles' command was coming back from Red River we all went into camp on the north side of the Washita. Lyman's Command the train never crossed the Washita again going south that I know of. Gen. Miles com-a mand camped at or near the Washita for several months beginning with Sept. 14. You will see from the above that Lyman did not break up the corral until Sept. 14. That is 2 days after the fight at the "Buffalo Wallow." and two days ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p021.jpg) after the main body of the Indians moved South from the Washita. Lieut Kingsbury and his troop never crossed the Washita but went back to Camp Supply. The Indians that is the main body of them left on the morning of Sept. 12, a few were seen during the day of the 12th, but none after that time. You will see that they left nearly 2 days before Lieut. Kingsbury's troop arrived which was at 2:30 a.m. on the 14th. I never was position as to why the Indians abandoned the siege; but I have always thought it was on account of the approach of Major Price's Command, as he was the nearest command to us when the Indians left us; and part of Price's Command had a fight with those same Indians on the day they left the Washita, near Gageby Creek. Capt Hartsuff's (?) [--] Long after 8th Cav. command in the skirmish. I have always had my doubts as to whether the Indians ever knew of Lieut Kingsbury's company ever having left Camp Supply. as he made a forced march, and could not have left Supply much sooner than the Indians abandoned the Corral. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p022.jpg) It is correct that Major Price left the six men at the "Buffalo Wallow." Major Price did not send them with an escort to any place. Chaffe picked them up the next morning (I.E.) Sept 14—at the "Buffalo Wallow." We met Gen. Miles main command on the Washita in the afternoon of Sept 14th, and he immediately sent me with some men to build a br foot bridge across the Washita River, as the River was up even with its banks, and he did not think his wagons could cross. a few companies of Gen. Miles Infantry command were coming along behind him on the trail and they joined him in a few days at the Washita. The scout Swalslee left the Lyman Corral just before midnight of Sept 9th-10th. and rode to Camp Supply, I believe he got there on the evening of Sept 11. and that Lieut. Kingsbury with K. Troop left on the morning of Sept. 12. arriving at 230 a.m on the 14th. The distance was 78 miles. If I am correct you will see the main body of the Indians left the Washita about the same time the Reson[---]y party <(R Troop)> left Camp Supply. On Sept. 15th Capt. Chaffea with his Troop was ordered to return on the Miles Trail to Red River and deliver rations to the companies ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p023.jpg) that were returning along the road from Red River to join Miles on the Washita. . On that date Capt. Chaffee showed me the location of the "Water hole "and the place where a part of Major Price's command had their fight on the same day; which was not many miles from the "Water hole." We passed these sites again a few days later when the Troop returned from Red River. I went with Chaffee. I was 2ond Lieut. of his Troop. When we returned, Gen. Miles whose command was camped on the Washita. I could not tell now, where the Water hole was exactly located, for there are no distinguishing landmarks in that section of country; but I remember the 8th Cavalry fight was on the south side of a divide to the west of the trail. I am surprised that Dixon got his dates correct, as he dictated his book entirely from memory, and I noticed several Mis mistakes in his book. A man who is not used to writing history is liable to make many mistakes in his dates as well as in events. I have just been reading Col. Inman's "The Old Sante Fe Trail" and I find it full of errors. your's very truly. .F. West. If there are any other [-]ains you wish to know about kindly let me know. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p024.jpg) Page P.S. Since writing the foregoing letter I have re-read Billy Dixon's Book. He states page 255 <200> "We nearing a divide between the Washita River and Gageby Creek. Riding to the left of a little knoll, we found ourselves almost face to face with a large band of Kiowa and Comanche warriors." The distance between Gageby Creek and the Washita by the Miles' Trail is eight miles, and as the party were just approaching the divide, they must have been at least 4 miles from the Washita, and I presume a little farther. If Dixon had been over the divide he would have seen the Indians sooner on account of more open country, or looking down the north slope of the divide—as it was he had the divide to obstruct his view. Dixon states on page 269 <211> "The commanding officer was Major Price with a troop accompanying General Miles Supply Train." I do not see how Dixon could make such a statement as that! Major Price's command had marched from New Mexico, was out of rations and was hunting for Miles Supply Train so that he could get rations. I believe the near proximity of Major Price's command did raise the siege. and the Indians ran into Dixon's party in trying to get away from Price (just as Dixon states ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p025.jpg) on page 270. I heard at the time that the reason one of Dixon's party shooting the horses was that the rider had a red saddle blanket on his horse. (That is an artillery saddle blanket) but as the Indians also used red saddle blankets, the soldier was position the rider was an indian, and shot at the blanket killing the horse. I think it was the surgeon's horse that was killed. Page 272. "Next day the wounded were sent to Camp Supply" I do not think that is correct for General Miles did not get to our camp on the Washita until that afternoon, and I am sure no teams left for Supply before the 15th of September. As I left for Red River with Chaffee on the 15th. I do not know when the wounded left after that morning. First Sergt Woodall was made an Ordance Sergt. and afterwards died in Havana of Yellow Fever. He was a dead shot with a Carbine. I believe Dixon is correct in his statement that Price's command was the cause of the Indians leaving Lyman's Corral. Gen. Miles camped on McClellan Creek on the 10th and at the Washita on the 14th of September. Yours Ete. F. West ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p026.jpg) Dwight Kans March 19-1921 E S Godfrey Dear Sir and comrad I saw your inq -urey in the N.T. in answer, Col W.O.Collins home was at Hilsburow highland co Ohio he died several years ago. & lies by the side of his son Casper, who paid the extreme penalty at flat bridge in July 1865 he was A Lieut in Co G. He took the plase of an other officer. to comman A squad of men to ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p027.jpg) to go to the aid off A train that were being attacked by the Indians. Himself & 19 out of 20 men & all the freigters lost thair lives. I served over 3 years with the 11 Ohio cav. was with Gen Connor on powder river little big horne. yellow expidt. hept build the Stockade fort on upper powder river & fort Phil Kearney on clear creek aterward change to Feteman. won my congresnal Medal of Honor near that historic spot where Custer & his brave men met thair watter -loo my Dear Comrade ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p028.jpg) if you were with the 7th you know & appreciate what A Soldier had to do to draw A Congres Medal of Honor. & in my declining years I look back to that act with A degree of pride that is akind to vanity with my kindes regard I am yours in F C & L Charles L Thomas Sargt Co E 11 ohio Cav P.S I se[-] by refering to the Medal of Honor that you allso wone one at bear paw mountain mont ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p029.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, March 22,1921. Mrs. Olive Dixon, Miami, Texas. My Dear Mrs. Dixon:-- Your letter of 8th inst. has been reveived, to- gether with the copy of the Canadian Record of March 3, giving the ac- count of Mr. Long's finding of the site of the Buffalo Wallow fight. I desire to thank you for sending me this. In regard to republishing your book, it seems to me that this is no time to do it, and you seem to have decided Costs of publishing are outrageously high, and are sure to come down in a year or two. The cost of printing has not yet begun to drop with the almost general decline of the prices of other things. The scenes of the homes of your ancestors, in Virginia, which you have written me about, are interesting, and I think will be a desirable matters to add to your book. Yes, either you or some one else, told me of Mr. Long when I visisted Canadian, in October, 1919. I find that I put his name down as one I should call upon if I ever should get to Mobeetie. As to my opinion of Mr. Long's search and the result of it, as you invite me to express myself,I am sure that I do not know just what to say. If Chapman will come over and verify the location I would have him do it if I were you and if he will come. If Mr. Long is sure of the site, as he remembers it, having been with Capt. Lyman at the time, he ought to be right. I do wish I could get down that way this year to see the Ind- ians and to take another look at that divide since talking with the man who was with Maj. Price. However, as the matter stands, if Mr. Long is sure of what he found I think his location of the site should be ac- cepted as the correct one. Let me ask you two questions:-- 1.-- The site found by Mr. Long--on which side of the divide is it? Is it on the Washita or the Gageby side? or is it so near the top of the divide that it would be difficult to determine on which side it is? Can one standing on the flat or on the knoll near it see the timber on either stream? and which one? It would seem to me that a point "just a mile south of the Pease house" would be on the Washita side of the divide, would it not?? 2.--The old trail which passes near the spot selected by Mr. Long as the site: What is the direction of the trail at that point? Does it run north and south, or east and west? Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p030.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, March 22,1921. Col. Frank West, 40 Orchard St., Mohawk, N.Y. My Dear Col. West:-- Your letter of 15th inst. was recieved at my home while I was out of the cuty, and I want to thank you for such a prompt and full reply to my inquiries regarding what happened on around the Washita at the time Capt. Lyman was corrald with the train by Indians. When you tell me that Capt. Lyman <(that is, not farther than the Washita)> and the train went no farther than the point where the fight occurred, that clears up the whole matter. The information that I previously had, to the effect that Lyman passed on south the same day that Chapman, Dixon and party fought the Indians, puz- zled me, for I could not understand how the troops could have gotten past without being aware of the fight that was going on around the small party in the buffalo wallow. My information that Lyman went on south, or southwest, as soon as relieved by Kingsbury, came from a good source, namely Gen. Frank D. Baldwin, but I can readily understand how he could be mistaken, for he went on the Leavenworth after meeting your command on the Canadian, and probably never knew that Gen. Miles' command followed up so closely as you tell me he did. Gen. Baldwin told me that he and a party of civilian scouts were the first to discover the camp of Indians on the Washita, near where they had you surrounded the next day, and his story runs this way: Baldwin and the scouts, one of whom was Schmalsle, were on their way to Camp Supply, with dispatches which he, Lieut, Baldwin, was to personally carry to the Department Commander at Leavenworth. When they came to the Washita they found a big camp of Indians right on the trail that Gen. Miles had made when he went south to the Red River. They went around the camp and crossed the Washita about five miles below it, then struck back northwest and hit the trail again, after dark, and about 11 p.m. came in sight of Lyman's camp on the north side of the Canadian. They yelled over, and Lyman send some men over to assist them, their horses being too tired to ford the stream, which had a bad bottom; or, at least, they feared the tired horses might give out if they attempted to ride them across. They got to Lyman's camp some time after midnight and told Lyman about the Indian village on the Washita, and that he might expect to be attacked the next day is he (Lyman) went on, which proved to be the case. They remained with Lyman until the next morning and then went on toward Supply, leaving Schmalsle with Lyman. They also left with Lyman an Indian whom they captured on their way north, turning him over to Capt. Lyman as a prisoner, but the said "prisoner" escaped about the time you were attacked. Now I am not certain about the dates, but infer that Baldwin came to your camp on the north side of the Canadian about midnight of Sept. 9-10, and that you were attacked by the Indians and driven to corral on the forenoon of Sept. 10. I would like to ask if you have a note of Lieut. Baldwin's appearance on the said night, what date you recorded, and whatever comment you may wish to make. As Gen Baldwin told me these things from recollection he was not sure of the dates within a day or two. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p031.jpg) Although Dixon does not state in his book that they heard the fir- ing of Price's battle with the Indians on Gageby the same afternoon that they fought them at the Wallow, yet I find where Chapman, a long time ago, made the statement that they did hear the firing over toward Gageby and then knew that the same Indians who had fought them had encountered troops, I agree with you that the presence of Price's command in the vicinity was probably what caused the Indians to give up the siege of Lyman and his train, and the presence of price is also probably what saved Chapman and the party at the Wallow. You quote from your diary an entry to the effect that on Sept. 13, at sunset, price's command passed, going north. Let me ask if this was determined by actual observation at the time? The reason I ask this is that it accords exactly with what I have been told by an enlisted man of Price's command, but he seemed not to be aware that there were any troops on or near the Washita at that time. In other words, no one of Price's command observed the presence of Lyman's command, although you, as I infer, from you diary, may have seen Price's command on the march. The story of this enlisted man is to the effect that the same day that they came up ththe men in the Wallow they marched east a few miles and then struck north and camped that night on the Canadian. The next morning (the 14th, according to your notes) one of Price's scouts came in and reported that he had seen a troop of cavalry over on the Washita. One of Price's companies was then saddled up and went over to the Washita and found Kingsbury at the spot where Lyman had been corraled, but Lyman's command was not there. This man seems not to have known where Lyman had gone, but told me simply that Kingsbury was in camp where Lyman had fought, and "Lyman had gone", Price was entirely out of supplies, so this company obtained some hardtack from Kingsbury and went back to Price on the Canadian. The next day (the 15th, it must have been) price went over to the Washita and found Gen. Miles in camp on the Washita, not far from where Lyman had been corraled. If what this man told me is correct, then you must have been camped near Kingsbury the day the one company of Price's command visited Kings- bury, but when Price's command came over the next day you probably had gone south with Capt. Chaffee. May I ask what entry, if any, you have in your diary as to the visit of the one company of Price's command on the 14th, or what comment you may have on this incident? After more careful reading of your letter I find that you place the time of Schmalsle's leaving the Lyman corral, for Supply, at "just before midnight on Sept. 9-10". This being the case it must have been on the night of Sept. 8-9 that Lieut. Baldwin's party came to your camp on the Canadian, and if such is the case will you please confirm it? I have the following questions to ask:-- 1.-- The soldier Geo. W. Smith, of M Company, 6th Cavalry, who was killed at the Wallow, with Dixon and Chapman--was his body ever removed from the Wallow, where he was buried at the time he was killed? 2.-- As to the identity of the Indians who fought Lyman at the corral and the Chapman-Dixon party at the Wallow--It seems to be the opinion of those who participated in these fights that they were Kiowas Comanches, but those who were at the agencies think they were all Cheyennes, or nearly all Cheyennes, these being the last who left the agencies and had not gone far when these fights took place, the main bunch who had left ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p032.jpg) the agencies all being down in the Red River country at that time. 3.-- What was the direction of the trail at or near the Wallow? In other words, what was the direction of the trail where it passed near the Wallow? Was it east and west? or north and south? Two years ago, when I visited the site of Lyman's corral, a settler pointed out to me where the trail passed, for several miles, along the divide between Washita and Gageby, almost due east and west. He said it was the same old trail on which Gen. Miles went south to Red River, in 1874, and the one afterward used between Supply and Fort Elliot, on the Sweetwater. At that time I assisted the widow of Dixon to take a look around the country. She was very anxious to discover the site of the Wallow Fight, and has made two searches since I was there, without entire satis- faction, not having found any buffalo wallow with the remains of a man in it. That part of the country is full of old buffalo wallows overgrown with grass. I intend to visit that country again whenever I can get away from my work for several weeks. You comment on the fact that Dixon got the date of the Wallow Fight correct. I think he had an autograph letter from Gen. Miles, or a copy of such a letter, giving the date of the fight and Gen. Miles' commendation of the stand they made against such a large body of Indians--this letter written by Gen. Miles at the time or soon after. Let me tell you something as to how that book of Dixon's was got- ten up. Late in life Dixon married a school teacher, from Virginia, who was a woman of good energy. He was then a homesteader at the very site of the old Adobe Walls building. The walls of that old ruins were only about 50 feet from his door. Here seven children were born. If accounts are correct Dixon was a heavy drinker, and did not get on well. Anyhow he sold out his ranch and moved some distance to the northwest, and after living amid such scenes Mrs. Dixon had formed the idea of having his life written up and published. Dixon consented rather reluctantly, and they did not get at the matter until shortly before he died. Mrs. Dixon sort of pried the thing out of him piecemeal, as it were, and did not start writing it up until after his death. She turned her notes over to an editor for compilation and to give the story a style, so that the matter comes to the reader third hand, as it were. Considering that Mrs. Dixon was not born or bred in that part of the country, don't you think that, after all, she did a good job of it?t Considering the process that the material went through before it got into book form it beats anything of the kind that I ever read. If Dix- on could have lived to read the manuscript or the proofs he would, no doubt, have made many corrections of details, if not of dates. I do not think the editor could have taken many liberties with the statements in Mrs. Dixon's notes, as the accounts run straight forward, and there is absence of the usual habit of exaggeration, which is so characteristic of the writings of men of the plainsman type, or, perhaps I should rather say, of their biographers. Where men write from recollection, without memoranda, they are, almost without exception, inaccurate in dates, in chronological order, and in details generally. However, men who write in their own language and in their own style, if they can write at all, do better than those who employ a biographer, as some army officers have done while still living, and in some cases have made a rather unsatisfactory job of it. Your letter gives me much light on the subjects I have been inves- tigating pertaining to the actions of Sept. 10-12 on or near the Washita, (over) ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p033.jpg) and I am not only pleased but gratified that I took up this investigation with you. I surely would have gone wrong as to Capt. Lyman's movements after the seige on the Washita but for this letter of yours; and, as you will see from the foregoing long letter, there are still some matters on which I am not yet sure that I have the clear idea. Many times have I found that one should not hesitate to pursue such investigations to the utmost in order to arrive at the facts. There is no one more satisfac- tory than the man who made notes at the time, and such further information or comment as you may feel like giving me on the questions herein raised will be greatly appreciated. Yours truly ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p034.jpg) Mar. 25, 1921. Mr. L. O. Armstrong, c/o Canadian Pacific Railway, Windsor Station, Montreal, Que., Canada. Dear Sir:- I am informed by Mr. Fairbairn, Ch. Engr., C. P. R., and Mr. J. R. W. Ambrose, Ch. Engr. of the Toronto Terminal Railway, that you take much interest in Canadian Indians. I have been a student of American Indians for more than twenty years, and have spent nearly all of my summer vacations, during that time, among Western Indians of the United States, being personally acquainted among nations speaking more than 14 different languages. As for Canadian Indians, I am particularly interested in those who were divided in their habitations across the Border, such as some of the Sioux, Blackfeet, Crees, and Chippewas. If your Company has published any literature that you think might be interesting to me, either for free distribution, or which may sells at a price, I shall be pleased if you will give me reference to titles and prices. I am also informed that you travel a good deal, and some time when you are coming to Chicago and have time at disposal, I would like to meet you and talk over this subject of the Indians. Yours very truly, Editor. WMC-DW ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p035.jpg) Day Montreal L.C. Cementary Industrial ast. C.P.R. might have literature following A history or Indians might write him [---] maisonville H.C.A ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p036.jpg) Mar. 25, 1921. Mr. J.M.R. Fairbairn, Ch. Engr., Canadian Pacific Railway, Montreal, Que., Canada. Dear Mr. Fairbairn:- I have received your letter of the 22nd inst., in which you inform me of your conversation with Mr. Ambrose and kindly mentioned Mr. L. O. Armstrong, Official Lecturer for the C.P.R., as the best authority you know of on Canadian Indians. I thank you for this information, as I am, indeed, much interested in American Indians and have spent many summer vacations visiting them and studying their characteristics and past history. I shall, according to your suggestion, write Mr. Armstrong and acquaint him with my interest in the subject. Yours very truly, Editor. WMC-DW ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p037.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, March 25, 1921. Col. Frank West, 40 Orchard St., Mohawk, N.Y. My Dear Col. West:-- I certainly owe you an apology for not making much use of the copy of a portion of your diary for September, 1874, which you kindly sent me a year ago, before writing my letter to you of 22nd inst. In it I find that the visit of Lieut. Baldwin and party to your camp on the Canadian, on the night of Sept. 8-9, is mentioned, as well as the turning over to you of the captured "Indian"; and that in your entry of Sept. 13 you explain how Maj. Price, going north, got past your camp without either side being aware that another command of white troops was in the vicinity--this by reason of your scouts having mistaken Price's scouts for hostile Indians. Your entry of Sept. 14 does not mention anything about a company of Price's command having visited Kingsbury on that date, but as the part of your diary that you gave me a copy of stops off at that date, it may be glad, however, if you will confirm or comment on the information given me to the effect that Kingsbury camped on the site of the Corral where you had your three-days' fight with the Indians. In the Chronological list of battles, actions, etc., of the Regular Army, as compiled by Heitman, with which no doubt you are familiar, find the following data covering the period that we have under discussion A Sept. 7--Elm Fork of Red River, Ind. Ty., Indian Scouts B Sept. 8--Wichita River, Tex., Indian Scouts C Sept. 9--Dry Fork of Wichita River, Tex., Detach. H and I, 6Cav: I, 5th Inf. D Sept. 9--Sweetwater Creek, Tex., Detach. H, 6 Cav. E Sept. 9-13--Near Canadian River, Tex., Detach. I, 6 Cav. F Sept. 11-12--Near Wichita River, Tex., Detach. H, 6 Cav. G Sept. 11-12---Mc Clellan Creek, near Wichita River, Tex., Detach. I and M, 6 Cav. H Sept. 12--Between Sweetwater and Dry Fork of Wichita River, Tex., C,K, and L, 8 Cav In the above I take it that "Wichita" River in every case should be corrected to read Washita River. The letters designating the different actions are mine, and my identification of each of them is as follows:-- Actions A and B were the running fights of Lieut. Baldwin and party of civilian scouts, erroneously recorded "Indian" Scouts. Action C must have been the first day's fight of Capt. Lyman's. Action D I am not able to place. Action E must have been some fight [---] or fights that you had at the corral. Action F I can not place unless it was a sortie that you made from the corral. Action G must have been the fight of Chapman, Dixon and party, and, if so I do not understand how "Mc Clellan creek" applies to it. Action H must have been price's fight on Gageby creek. I would be glad to have your comment on my interpretation of this record, making note of whatever geographical corrections you might think to be necessary. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p038.jpg) March 25th., '21. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Ill. My dear Mr. Camp: I must apologize for not having replied earlier to your kind letter of March 14. I was interested in what you had to say at the dinner of the Order of Indian Wars, and had thought that you might have information which would make good reading in the Dallas News. I have written one story about the battle of the Washita, fought on that Thanksgiving day in 1868, I think it was, while the information being available was rather meager, I think it made an interesting story. I was at the time it was published representing my paper in the State of Oklahoma. I have taken the liberty of sending your letter to Mr. E. B. Doran, chief of the News and Telegraph departments of our combination, at Dallas, and it may be that you will hear from him with reference to the frontier stuff. I am so tied down here with last minute news, I have no time to devote to Special matter. I am Cordially yours, M. L. Goodwin x ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p039.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, March 26,1921. Mr. W.O.Taylor, 34 Mechanic St., Orange, Mass. My Dear Mr. Taylor:-- Your postal card of 9th inst. was duly received, but I was away from home at the time. I have heard of the De Rudio story of the battle of the Little Bighorn, published in some newspaper, but do not recall that I have ever seen it. I do remember, however, that I asked Maj. De Rudio about it when I met him, in 1911, and can recall quite well what he told me. He warned me that the story was not correct, as he saw the battle, and, although his name was attached to it, he said he did not write it, but gave it to Maj. Brisbin an interview, and Brisbin exaggerated the facts and colored the story a good deal in writing it for publication. Brisbin wrote it for pay. With such a statement from De Ruido himself I lost interest in the story. I am under the impression that the story was copied by a good many newspapers. I think I have heard Capt Ryan (First Sergeant of M Company) speak about this story, and have an impression that he has a copy of it. He lives in West Newton, Mass., and you probably know him. Answering your inquiry about the address of any man of B Company, it has been a good many years since I have seen any one of that company. John A. Bailey I met in St. Paul, but he died a year or two later. William M.Caldwell died in Clearfield, Pa., in 1913; and Edwin B.Wight lived in Togus, Maine (Togus is not a post office),and died in 1917. About ten years ago I met a B Company man at 2435 Morris Ave., in New York, named Thomas Carmody, and he may be living yet. I have not heard of his dying. How are you getting on with your book? I have decided not to write mine for awhile yet, perhaps a year or two. The cost of publication is very high these days, being largely under the control of the trades unions. I recently designed a monument to be erected at Hardin, Mont., at the mouth of the Little Bighorn, in memory of Gen. Custer. This coming 25th of June will be the 45th anniversary of the battle, as you are aware, and there is going to be a big celebration up there on the battlefield and at Hardin, which has become quite a little city. White people are leasing Indian lands along the Bighorn valley for raising sugar beets oil has lately been struck and the old Crow reservation has become a scene of a good deal of activity. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p040.jpg) Friday Arose at 5 & took morning train for Lalu village. A[-] then at 10 and wached out. Weather cloudy in morning, turning clear. [---]y & windy. Took a nap after dinner, fed goats in brush lot, [illegible deletion] cut & split posts in barnyard 1½ [---]. Spent evening writing notes [-] my speech at banquit Order of Indian War & went Ahed at 10:30. Night clear & windy. Saturday Arose at 5 & went to work at 6:45. Fed Goats in brush lot and finished cutting up & split into fence posts the [illegible deletion] trees cut down in barn yard. Set posts in vineyard and 3 on line fence between Staber and me. Called on Staber & pr[---]d [---] grape river for him Weather clear, warm & windy, with rain at night After supper read newspaper & went to bed at 9:45 Sunday Arose at 6:50. Fed goats in brush lot hay & corn and worked at cutting down oak trees in brush lot from 9 am to 1:30 p.m., Spent the p.m. looking over the place, reading newspaper, shoring, etc. Weather warm, with hard southwest wind all day. The temperature the part two days has been above 70 deg and [---] in beginning grow right over ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p041.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill., March 28, 1921. Cemeterial Branch, Quartermaster General's Dept.,U.S.Army, Washington, D.C. Gentlemen:-- For historical purposes I would like to have information as to any records that may be in your files regarding two enlisted men killed in the service, and the place of burial, if it can be stated. My inquiry relates to:-- 1.-- Sergeant Amos J.Custard, Company H, 11th Kansas Volunteer Caval- ry, killed near Platte Bridge, Wyoming, July 26 or 27, 1865. Do your files contain any record of burial or disinterment? If so, where was the final burial place? and the date? 2.-- Private George W.Smith, Company M, 6th U.S.Cavalry, killed on Sept.12,1874, near Washita River, in Texas Panhandle. Do your files con- tain any record of burial or disinterment? If so where was the final burial place and date? Thanking you for any information that can be given, I remain Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p042.jpg) KIDDER MASSACRE [see verso for response,n.d.] 7740 Union Ave March 29, 1921. Postmaster Atwood Kansas Dear Sir— In 1867 a Lieut Kidder and 15 soldiers were killed by Indians in a fight somewhere in the valley of Beares Creek. For historical pur- poses I would like to get some idea as to where this happened. If you can refer this letter to some old settler of your neighborhood whom you think might be able to tell me where the battle occurred I will much appreciate the favor. Yours truly W.M Camp. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p043.jpg) The Indian fright you speak of in your letter was some where near Wilsonville Nebraska. Very Truly A.C Blume Ludell Kansas ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p044.jpg) 7740 Union Ave March 29, 1921 Postmaster, Minor, Kans, Dear Sir: -- In 1867 a Lieut. Kidder and 15 soldier were killed by Indians somewhere in the valley of Beaver Creek. For historical purposes I would like to get some idea of where this happened. If you can refer this letter to some early settler of your locality whom you think might be able to tell me where the fight took place I will appreciate the favor. Yours Truly W.M. Camp. McDonald Kans 5-2-21 The P.O. of Minor Kaus has been discontinued and all mail for that office is delivered to this office. I have made some inquires in regard to the matter you refer to and can find no one who seems to have any knowledge of it nor do I find any one among the oldest settlers who could tell me of any and who would know any thing about it H.L. Caswell P.M. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F32_B2_F10_p045.jpg) March 31, 1921. Mr. W. C. Cushing, Engineer of Standards, Pennsylvania R.R., Broad Street Station, Philadelphia, Pa. My Dear Mr. Cushing: Having done me the courtesy to express some appreciation of my hobby, I am sending you, by registered mail, some evidence of my "knitting work" in the form of an enlarge- ment from a photograph of a Crow Indian village. This stood on Lodge Grass Creek, a tributary of the Little Bighorn, in southern Montana, and I took the photograph in September, 1913. Trusting that it may reach you without being damaged, I remain Yours truly, WMC-S. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p001.jpg) Apr 2, 1921 Mr W.M.Camp, Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir; Replying to your inquiry relative an Indian Fight on Beaver Creek which runs thro this County we think this fight must have happened near Atwood,Kas and suggest you write Atwood,Kansas about it.Post Master. There was an Indian Massacre on the Arickoree, at Beecher Island, Yuma Co,Colo. just North of here and full details of this fight can be had of Margaret Hill McCarter, Topeka, Kansas if you will write Mrs McCarter and tell her of my informing you, I am sure you will be well repaid for your efforts and will no doubt get the information that this is the battle referred to. I have lived in Sherman Co.Kansas which joins or corners with Rawlings and Cheyenne on the North,Thomas on the East and Kit Carson Co.Colo. on the West and Kanorado, Kas is just half Mi from Colo line and 16 Mi S of Yuma Co line. I have lived in Co 35 years. Yours truly John L Heston ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p002.jpg) 293.3-Cemeterial Branch No: 293.3--Cemeterial April 6, 1921 From: The Quartermaster General of the Army. To: Mr. W.M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Subject: Disposition of remains Sgt.Amos J.Custard,Co.H,11th Kansas Vol.Cav., and Pvt.Geo.W.Smith,Co.M, 6th U.S.Cavalry. 1. Replying to your letter of the 28th ultimo on the subject mentioned above, you are informed that the Adjutant General of the Army reports that the records of his office show that Amos J.Custard was enrolled August 15, 1862, and was mustered into service September 15, 1862, as a private in Co.H, 11th Kansas Volunteer Cavalry, to serve three years, and that he was killed in action near Red Buttes, Dakota Territory, on July 26, 1865, while defending a train attached by Indians. He was a Sergeant in this company at the time of his death. Nothing has been found of record relative to the date and place of burial or of the disinterment of the remains. 2. The Adjutant General of the Army also reports that the records of his office show that George W. Smith was enlisted January 31, 1870, at New York, N.Y., for three years, was assigned as a Private to Troop M, 6th U.S.Cavalry, and that he was killed a Private on September 12, 1874, near Washita River, Texas, while in the discharge of his duty. He was buried where he fell, near the Washita River, Texas, grave not numbered. Nothing has been found of record to show that the body was ever removed. It appears that after his death his effects were sent to Charles G. Smith, Greenpoint, Long Island. By authority of the Quartermaster General: H. J. Connor 1st Lieut., Q.M.Corps, Chief, Cemeterial Branch. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p003.jpg) April 7th 1921 Mr. W.M.Camp. 7740 Union Ave. Chicago. My dear Mr Camp. Yours of March 28 is at hand & I was certainly glad to hear from you again. now that the winter is post I will try & get on with my correspondence as I should. This the post winter has been very bad on all of us stock people we have all of us had to take a loss again, which with the general deflation & 3 or 4 dry years with no feed puts us all almost down flat, but maybe if we have some good years we can come back if our banks stay by us & they will. I have missed your letters this winter & I hope to see you out here this year in that new speed wagon & we will run that man Col. Coles Trail out. I was ready ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p004.jpg) for you last year but you did'nt come. I spent a day trying to find where he hit the river, but dident find it. but I dident go to the divide. If we dont find it now, it will be lost I am afraid for the country is changing & the old ones drop one by one, one of us, of the old guard passed over a couple of days ago. a Mr Selway who lived at the Powder River bridge if you remember. he came from wester Mont to Powder River Country in 82 he was burried yesterday & I couldnt go in as it was so muddy I am sending you a clipping now & then that deals with the old west It maybe [-] they will help you a little bit in some way & things along that line is about all I can do & say Mr Camp dont wait to long to get that stuff in print for as I told you when you were at the ranch, we are geting older & we are almost in the front ranks now & I want to read of those old things, but still when I am gone what difference can it make. Funny isnt that we feel that way. We are all as well as usual. Berts kids are sure the stuff. They are gowing fine with kindest regards to you & yours from us all I am yours Truly Dan H Bowman ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p005.jpg) Natl Mil Home, Dayton Ohio. April 8th 1921, To Mr. H.J. Mills My dear Comerad, I was more than glad to hear from you, or anybody, who, was with the 12th Mo Cavl. on all its rounds. We certainly saw some service.⁠—Dismounted and charged a four gun Battery (Brass guns) at Nashville and got em, and my number was'nt 4 holding Horses I went up the hill. And I had a close call on Powder River, once, yes I was in Co. B. Lieutenant Charles Springer, was in Command of Co. B. on that trip. Capt Leach, was'nt with us. Springer and about 15 of us boys wer sent to a point on the river to watch what the Indians wer doing, but all was quiet, but there was hundreds of the Red men, on the hills, what seemed to be about One mile, away⁠—and without orders, We crossed Powder River,—deployed as skirmishers,—and about ½ mile from the River we got close to a brush thicket,—that we couldn't see from the river,—and about [the following written upside down at the top of the page] I read this letter with yrs. he seems, while not schollary, a well preserved veteran and no doubt could detail more possibly than I can about this Powder River Expedition my squib brought me in touch with 5 or 6 old comrads, why not peet yr qu[-]iz up to the tribune, you doubtless would revive quite a number of the old Powder River Expedition. I had an old Iowa comrad who was Genl Wheaton Secte he was a methodist cir[--]ist [---] in Iowa he wrote up that Expedition entitled "Drifting of the Plains for Harford weekly if Im not mistaken if alive [the following written sideways along the left margin] he could give you more information than any person on the Powder River Expedition perhaps some one in the [the following written in the bottom margin] Iowa Methodist Episcofol Conference would locate him for you if alive [the following written sideways in the right margin] his name if alive is Edward B. Heaton. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p006.jpg) 100 Indians was in the brush waiting for us, we staid on our horses, and used up all the amunition we had, and we made a run for the river, Indians after us,—two of the boys got arrows in the back,—one George McCullah, was captured alive,—we never saw him after that. One of the boys died that night Jim Morrison one old scout just behind me said me get you, but he did'nt make good that time. Well, you wanted to know something about the Soldiers Home. There are 10 national homes. This is called the Central Branch and is the largest one the Board of managers are here, there Headquarters is in the Home Hotel. They are making wonderfull changes here for the benefit of the World War boys, 5 of the larges barreks are being remodeled for them which will be connected with the Hospital. We have good beds, and comfortable Quarters, Missouris Soldiers Home is at St. James about 60 miles from St Louis.—I am the only 12th Mo Man in the Home. Would like to hear from you again, Yours Respectfully John Shook Co: 7 [The following written upside down in the top margin of the page] I worked at Carpenter and Cabinet Making for about 35 years, at St Louis, Kan. City and other places, Chillicothe, was my Home Town. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p007.jpg) AN EARLY PRIZE FIGHT. Editor of The Journal: Dear Sir—Speaking of old-time prize fights sets me back to the time when Tom Allen and Mike McCool had their knockout near St. Louis. I think this was in the spring of 1876. As they were not allowed to fight in the city, a ferryboat was chartered for one day and they went up the river about 20 miles, or near the mouth of the Missouri. I believe there were no prepara- tion made for the scrap until they arrived at the place selected. Just stretched a rope around four trees and went at it good and hard. Tom Allen's weight was 210 pounds, but, listen now, McCool weighed 350 pounds. Allen was the winner. And all it cost to see that fight was $5 for the round trip on the boat. Well, yes, they took along several kegs of beer and a case or two of — (no, not raisinjack); that other stuff that was on the market at that time. Only standing room at that fight. Those that wanted a good view climbed a tree and sat on a limb. Not much gate receipts, for the fighters just wanted to know which was the best man, and no Tex Rickard at that time to pull it off right JOHN SHOOK, Soldiers' Home. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p008.jpg) Joe Culhertam Jr Poplar. Mont. April 11—1921. Dear Mr Camp:— Your letter has been read and was very glad to hear from you. regarding Mr Burhe's appointment as commissioner I suppose is alright, as far as my concern I don't go much on any of them as they all came out of the same shell & what they don't know about Indian's would make a damn big book. I'd like to see heart land the job that he is slaighed for I read a very nice letter from Gen Baldwin two or three days ago. I was with him in the at Bank & Hell Creek. Gre Pipp lived at Brawning ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p009.jpg) I suppose you know that I am in the movie's representing Mill's old scouts at the Cham battle last fall at Glacier park I was the principal man representing Custer's last stand although I was not there my self but had an indian with me who was right in the fight, With kind regards I am Your Friend Joseph Culbertson JR, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p010.jpg) [The following printed on a label] MSS WALTER CAMP 57 Original Letter (05 Photocopy) H.J. Mills to Camp 1921 April 12 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p011.jpg) #465 Stewart Ave. Capital New, Atlanta, Ga. 4th—12—1921 W.M. Camp, Chicago Ills,, Dear Sir:—yr letter of inquiry promoted by my little squib in nat-Trib, of a recent date, seeking information relative to the 12th Mo.Cav. Vols exploits in the Powder River expedition under the command of Col. Cole during summer and fall of 1865 reached my address this morn, At this late date envisoning near 60 years ago [---] revives old memories as I look down the corridors of time and awakes incidents in that expedition, that had long since past out of my recollection, to go back to begin where the Nashville Campaign ended in which we captures over twenty thousand of Hoods demoralized army and run him away from a Xmas dinner at Campbellsville, after which we spent remainder of the winter of 1864 at East Port on the Tennesee River above Florence Ala. where Hood rested three days on his way from Atlanta to Nashville. In the spring of 1865 we sailed down the Tennessee & Ohio & up the Mississippi to St. Louis, the war being practically over we were ordered on up the Missouri to Fort Leavenworth Kans. where we were mounted on mules and sent out on that dreary wild Powder River Exp. in the Sioux, Arappaho Shyenne hunting grounds among the Black Hills, where we lost quite a number of good boys who had escaped many a confederate bullet, at that period no R.R. had traversed or wen penetraded that Indian wilderness, which seemed still in its primevil period for on Powder River and among the Black Hills, Deer moose, Elk, antelope, Buffalo, Mountain Sheep Bear seem to roam unmolested by the savages. We had a great many skirmishes and surprises from the Indians especially when crossing the Powder River at its many winding fords, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p012.jpg) we had to depend up grozing our stock and although grunt and sides hobled they would dash in at dusk or about day break and succeed in running of many horses and mules, our boys would pursue and over take stock that had stampeded over 20 miles with heavy army hobbles still on their legs and the Cather had ground their ankles off raw—to the naked bones, they captured several of our boys alive but we never saw them again, some they would kill cut their ears eyes, privates and stuff them in their victims mouths, we would often haul our dead all day at night bury them in one grave and build our campfire over them to prevent the Indians from digging them up. I dont think we ever quite got to the Yellow Stone, as the Indians grew more numerous as [--] advanced down Powder R. My recollection, at this late date is that the Pawnee Indian Scouts had no white commander, Genl Connor was a Buffalo Bill, Kit Carson Charceton in his make up and was just like him to pat those Pawnee scouts and the back and wave them to "go to it" On our return from Powder River Ex. we rested up several weeks at Fort Laramie, Wyoming Territory, Gen Frank Wheaton who was at Fort Larimie with his Hd.Qrs for the Dist of Nebraska appointed over Reg. Sury Maj Gen. W. Cory on his staff as med Director of the District of Nebraska and I was detailed to the Genl Hd.Qrs as private secty to the med Director, Dist of Nebraska, as cold weather approached we the Genl staff all struck for the East and Civilization and the Genl made his Hd.Qrs in Omaha Neb, my regt. 12 Mo. Cav. (my Co was "F") drifted down to the junction of the two Platts then called Julesbury and perhaps Fort Sedgwick where they suffered many provations winter of 1865, in april 1866 they were all musted out at Fort Leavenworth Kans, I've never seen any of my Regt. 12th Mo.Cal. Vols after leaving them in fall of 1865 at Fort Laramie Wyoming Territory. as soon as the ice broke up in the Missouri River I was ordered from Omaha Neb, to Fort Leavensworth where I was mustered out in may, come to Georgia in 1867 married a Georgia angel and raised 8 children, 3 boys 5 girls all alive 7 in Atlanta married doing well the eight as son is a practicing physician in Milan Ga, dont suppose family affairs interest you, scratched before I thought, while my real name is H.G.Mills. I was known under the assumed name of James H. Thomas—My father was a strong union man but was bitterly opposed to my quitting college and joining the army h[---] the assumed name of James H. Thomas Espab H.J. Mills ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p013.jpg) [The following written at the top of the page] Letter from Mills & Shook re Powder River Exp 1865 reavale[-] W.M.Camp, 7740 Union Ave Chicago, Ill. [The following stamped on the left] ATLANTA APR 12 230 PM 1921 GA. [The following stamped on the right] UNITED STATES POSTAGE 2 CENTS 2 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p015.jpg) Wyola Mont April 18 1921 Wm Camp, My Dear old Friend I will Dope you a few lines hoping they will find you well, I got you cind and welcomed letter some time a go and was glad to hure from you. and all so a thanking you for the truble you went to [illegible deletion] in lunting up my lawers in markinton and giving the the importent information a Bout my Listemer in 1876. Well we have Ben a having good wether here this winter not much of loss of stock ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p016.jpg) and Evring is a looking good so fare. But money is scarce her not and hard to git but tho futher is a looking Nery Bight. The Pople is Puling in Big cropes this oping and we have a big oil ex[--]em her. all of my children has oil on ther Lands. and I feel that my medisen is a gitting very strong every day, and I Began to think that I will live 40 years yet I have 2 grand children that is 2 new ones. and a nother grate grand child so you see thare will Laforges for next 100 years to come ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p017.jpg) so you see I have Blsed and marked my trail well as I have Left Living montuments all a Long my trail. I have a Living moument up to alaska a Boy now he is 19 years old. So when I go over the Big Devide the Be Pofle can fouler my trail and theay can say the old scout has Ben through country meny years a go I have one Daughter down in Chiacago and 2 Grand Children and she is a Bout 22 years old and I have on Daughtr out in Seattle she is going on 24 years old so Pal. I have marked my trail plane ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p018.jpg) well I Dont knon what else to write you so I will close for this. I think 2 Bairs has cam out of his hole you see Baires come out a Bout this time in the spring I hurd he was out the other Day so I guess he came though the winter all right well I will close for this time hoping I will hure from you soon I all the I thill time now is a looking found to the time that you and our old friend will Be out here on time will have a good tripe to gether and then we will Drume up. a Nugh medisen to Last us a ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p019.jpg) long time well I will close hoping I will hear from you soon frome you old friend Thos H Laforge Laforge Horse Rider Old scut My best regards to you loved ones, Tom ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p020.jpg) F.G. Burnett Ft Washakie Wyo. Apr 18, 1921. Mr. W.M.Camp 7740 Union Ave Chicago Dear Mr Camp youre Letter with Photo received. I am Sorry to learn that you will not be able to visit us this Summer. I wish that I could have been with you on youre Trip last Summer. What a pleasure it would be to visit the old Places onc more! Mrs Hebard expects to make a visit to the Wagon Box and Hog Field Battle Grounds. During this Summer and wishes me to accompaney her. I will make the Trip if Possible. I hope that Capt Calvin is enjoying good Health. Gen Hugh T. Scot would be the right man in the right place as Emtreadar to Mexico. I hope that he gets the Appointment. Black Bear was killed in the Summer of 1869 on the Papragia River about one and one half miles North East of Old Camp Brown. the present Sight of Ta[-]der. The cause ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p021.jpg) leading up to the Fight was the murder one or two days before the Fight of fourteen men in the vicinity of South Pass Atlantic and Miners Dilight and the War Party had been traced to the Arapahoe Vilage this Northern Band of Arapahoes were considered by all Western men who knew them as the worst Band of cowardly Sneaks in the west. it Seemed to be the hight of their ambition to murder wimen and Children or to catch Some land Trrapper as Prospector murder and mutilate them. the Citizens at this time with the assistance of Some Shashanes and Barracks atacked the arapahoes killed Black Bear and a number of others Took the Rev Sherman Coolidge and his Sister Prisnors. they were children then about Seven and Nine years Old. Coolidge is now living in Denver the Sister mrs Julia Hereford is living here having married a half Breed Shoshone there are ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p022.jpg) several Shoshones here who were in the Bates Creek Battle and some few arapahoes I was not in the Fight beaing at Greene River at the time with the Agent of this Reservation. Greene River beaing the County Seate of this County at that time. Nelson Yarnall a white man who was Shoshone interpreter is the only white man living who was in the fight that I know of, and who is now living some wheare in California. I do not know his address but if you wish it I will get it for you. Hoping that this findes you well and Prosperous and that you will make us a visit in the near future. Youres Sincerely F.G. Burnett ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p023.jpg) April 21, 1921. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir: We have your inquiry of the 18th inst. asking whether we can supply "The Indian War of 1864" by Eugene F. Ware. We regret to advise that we are not in a position to supply a single copy of this book. The book went out of print about four years ago and we are not in a position to advise you where a single copy might be procured at the present time. Yours truly, CRANE & COMPANY FSS-HS By F.S Schaefer F.S. Schaefer ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p024.jpg) FRANK D BALDWIN 1440 Detroit St. Denvor Colorado 4/23-21 My Dear Mr. Camp. I have often started to write you. When did not do so hoping that would be going East before long and would see you in Chicago, I have now decided that shall go between now and the 1st of June so as to attend the re-union of my Civil War regiment [-]e. I may go on to Washington and see how Mr Harding is coming on. To get into the lime light give him a chance to defeat me at a game of Gaff on his [---] links or whatever you call them. I was much interested in your story of what you did after you left me at Miles City last fall. I hardly thought you would find the spot where Miller had his scrap with the Indians in March 1880. Hawkings is a very bright man and if any one could find the spot he would. I was always sorry that Miller did not follow the Indians after he had got them on the run. He would have joined me at the point where I left the Yellowstone following the trail over to the Parcupine. It was his failure to do this that caused me to hesitate to recommend him for a "Medal of Honor" (Subrosey) as I surely will see you in the near future will close. Very Sincerely Frank D. Baldwin U.S.A. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p025.jpg) April 28, 1921 Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. Dear Sir: I have been interested to learn in your letter of April 25th of the diary of John Woods found by you in the Chicago Public Lib- rary. The journal to which you refer is not the same as the one in regard to which I wrote you. The John Wood or Woods, I am not sure as to the name, about which I wrote you, went from Ohio to Independence, Kansas in 1850, and his journal is an account of a trip across the prairies of Nebraska in that year. He continued his journey to the gold diggings of Cal- ifornia. I believe the latter work is one of the most graphic accounts I have read of adventure of the sort he describes. Very truly yours, John I Lendal JFC:H ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p026.jpg) Ainsworth Nebr May 1st 1921 WM Camp 7740 Union Ave Chicago Ills My Dear Sir yours of april 20" at hand and in reply will say that I never was a Member of the 11th Ohio Cav but my information came from my wife Jou[-]rly Flueuce Schuydon and Sister to Mr. J.B. Nottingham of Tobias Nebr I was a Member of Co "A" 21st New York Cavalry in the Civil War and came west after the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p027.jpg) big review at washington in May 1865 enlisted in the regulr Service Jany 18" 1867 and was assigned to Capt Henry Haymunds Co 7" 27th Inftry an July 5th 1867 and was discharged from the service March 5" 1881 and have resided here ever since Mrs Magin says there was a Mrs Saws a sister to Mrs Collins and a family named we[--]r Mrs Virginia her husband was a member of the 11th Ohio is living they may give you ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p028.jpg) some information also Mrs Buskur and a man named Reed was also a member of the regt Lieut Collins remains was sent home and all the officers and men that could get there attended Mrs Magill only remembers two officers Major JB Furcy and Lieut Pettygobes it was the Sargent Ju[--]enl e[--] held ind Highland County at that time there is no photo of the Col or the Lieut that we know of ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p029.jpg) there is a man named John Hunton Care taken at Fort Laramie now who was there I think when Col Collins was there in Command he may give you some information the last time I saw the Grathers Monument six miles east of the old Fort it needed attention I was with Col D B Bradly 27" infty in Sept 1868 when we went to relive Col Forsyth on the south fork of the Republic River are you looking ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p030.jpg) up that fight also for that was a hard fight we got with in a few miles when a cairier came stating they wer relived by Capt Corputry 10th cavalry se[-]er to me at any time that I can be of any service to you and hope you will be succesful in getting your history of the Indian Wars and the West I had the pleasure of leading Genl Godfreys articles in MC Cluus Maqagiue years ago Very Truly WH Magill ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p031.jpg) [The following written diagnally in the top left corner] Answered 5/31/21 Miami Texas. May 2-1921 Mr W. M. Camp. Chicago Ill Dear Sir: I feel like I am due you an apology for not answering your letter of March 26th, but just as your letter came we were planning another trip out on the Washita in response to a letter I recieved from Mr Chas, Teas telling me that there had been found—just after we were out with Mr Long—another spot one mile east of where we were the 27 of February, when we so were we had located the place— which he, Mr Teas, thought corresponded much better with the discription of the place where the fight took place as given in the book "Life of Billy Dixon" and of his own idea for a location for a fight. The same parties who had gone with me before from Miami, went the last time. We went ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p032.jpg) direct to Mr Teas home. He and his wife went out with us. we took the same direction you and I did the sunday we were out there when we started over to see the old rifle pits. Going almost one mile east you remember the knowl where we got out of the car and walked over? Well, the last place found is about one half mile due north of that knowl and is in a plowed field. The ground [-] is sandy and the man who justt plowed ple the field told us that there were two depressions about forty steps apart one longer and deeper than the other, and in plowing he found slulls of the 45--70 type and some arrow heads, around [---]de depression the greater no. being near the larger place. Mr Teas is a very inteligent man and reasons things out for him self, and while I had promised to be satisfied with the place Mr Long located I could not afford to ignore the information Mr Teas gave me. The last place place is really ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p033.jpg) under the best location as described by my husband. "It is on the devide between the Wachita and Gagebe" over looking both streams. A party going north west on riding up on the Knowl would have a splendid view in all directions. Mr Teas figures that the first Wallow south up the Knowl is where Amos Chapman fell and lay for several hours—He of course must have kept shooting at the Indians and the larger depression forty steps father south is where the final stand was made. We are rather on a stand still now as to the next move. I am very under opposed to hurting Mr Longs feeling over the matter, but as Mr Teas explains, it, and I see it too, where the different lies In pointing out the location after wards to Mr Long. by Mr Dixon, the latter must the place was farther away from the trail than the former realized. I am wondering if I have made this at all plain to you and how you will look at it. It is really getting on my ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p034.jpg) nerves and I will certainly be glad when it is definitely decided on. I am thinking very seriously of making a trip to Seiling Okla to see Amos Chapman and at least have a talk with him. Some say, among them Mr Joseph B. the man of the Oklahoma State Historical Society, that they [---]edent sily on what he would say if he came to find the place but the more I study about it the more anxious I am to see and talk with Amos and I think I will go. Another thing that has come up now for discussion is what kind of guns were the men in the Buffalo Wallow using. I have just gone over the original man- uscript and it says where Mr Dixon first saw the troops the moring after the fight "I fired off my gun" to attract their attention, the book says I fired off my big 50 which of course was changed by the compiler. but the statement answering their fire arms being different. is correct according to the manuscripts, [-]ither it means only the scouts guns were ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p035.jpg) different I am unable to say and that is one thing I feel like I could find out by going to see Mr Chapman. Mr Tho b[---] writes me some amusing letters concerning Amos and always says, "he wouldnt believe a word he says" but if I could meet him personally, I would be my [---] of what I thought of what he told me. Now I am just getting to what I really started out to tell you. Mr Stribling, one of the party who has made the trip out to locate the Buffalo Wallow site lives here in Miami and has for years—He is a surveyor and a man who can be relied on, told me while we were eating dinner the day we made our last trip out on the Washita that he knew all about the Good [---] trail and related the story of 1500 Gov. horses being killed at one time rather than have them fall into the hands of the Indians When we got back to town that evening I said to Mr Stribling "Will you write out briefly the story of the Good [---] trail" and ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p036.jpg) he promised me he would but sin[-]e then there has been serious sickness in his family so I am sure it has either slipped his mind or he has not had time but when it is so I can I am planning to go to Mr Striblings home and get the story for you I felt like it would be almost a waste of time to write either Mr Good night or Mr Catar for the story. Both men are old, and it is hard to get them to answer letters, altho I dont remember that either one ever failed to answer one of my letters. Now this letter is very poorly written, and I am afraid badly disconnected, but I have written it out very hurriedly just as I do all my writtings, often in writting a letter, I get up to tend to some household duty, [---] but to tend to the chickens or some other duty. You can depend on me getting the story of the "Good night Trail" when I can. Very sincerely, Dixon Olive Dixon ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p037.jpg) May 6, 1921. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. Dear Sir: Pardon me for failing to answer your letter of April 17th at an earlier date. Your letter became mis- laid and therefore, failed to receive a reply. I am glad to state that H. C. McGregor, formerly of this city, but now living at 1625 West Market Street, Bloomington, Illinois, R.F.D. I understand he was a member of the Nelson Buck surviving party, which was attacked by the Indians in the summer of 1869 in southern Nebraska. If you will write to him, tell him that you secured his address through the writer. If you donot get a record of the incident through Mr. McGregor, for any reason, please write me again. The incident has been written up and published in some histories of Livingston County, if I am not mistaken. Please feel free to call upon me for any further assistance, for I deeply appreciate your courtesy in giving information in regard to the Camp family. I am Yours truly GC Armstrong GCA-MH P.S.: If you do not get the desired information from Mr. McGregor, write Mr. H. C. Jones, Pontiac, Illinois, a man who has lived here since 1847 and who surveyed with Nelson Buck, but who was not with Buck when the attack was made by the Indians. G.C.A. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p038.jpg) St George Hotel, 1007½ Fourth St Sacramento, California. Tuesday. 10th May. 1921. 1030A.M. Mr. W. M. Camp Ellsworth Building Chicago, Illinois Dear Sir:— Will you give me some information in regard to a man named Charlie White who served as a scout with the troops sent against the hostile Sioux in the summer campaign of '76.? Gen. King tells me in his letter bearing date—30th April that White who was known among the other scouts as "Buffalo Chips" was killed in the "brush" with Crazy Horse band on the afternoon of Sept 9th '76 at Slim Butter, South Dakota. I wish to learn if possible if young White was ever known by the name of Morgan? Gen. King was not able to tell me but kindly referred me to you. Awaiting a favorable reply I am Your obedient servant James D. Moore. Late Sergt Maj 9th US. Cavlry [The following written diagnally in the bottom left corner] answered 5/29/21 from Lawton, Okla ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p039.jpg) 5/19/21 Mr Dear Mr. Camp; Immediately on receipt of your letter, I got in touch with Mrs Shaw, I inclose herewith her answer, Old Shaw himself is not what one could term "creditable" in a matter of this kind. The Valentine "Democrat" some few years ago published the "memoir's" of the old gentlemen and I have no recollection of this feature being published. In my request to Mrs. Shaw I requested her to just spring the question casually so as not to excite him or to inform him the purpose of the question. You can see by the inclosed the answer. I spent much of the winter in P[---]e looking after much needed legislation for the benefit of our county. The members sure and we fine on my brie giving us the franchise on State and national officers the vote in both branches was unanimous. We now have a county school board and a Highway board, a Sheriff, justice of the peace ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p040.jpg) County Constable and an assessor all of whom are appointed by the Governor. I feel the splendid treatment acended me was way beyond what I deserved. On the 10th of June the Governor will be at St Francis, to confer with the people of the county on all matters pertaining to our welfare, from present indications it looks as tho the entire County, as well as a large number from the surrounding counties, will be present and we look for a big outpouring of the people in his honor. Of course a "few" Indians will be present. I am contemplating a trip to Washington, some time during the session of the present Congress, and of course will go via Chicago, where I trust I will have the pleasure of meeting you. Mrs Weston, joins me in extending kind regards and best wishes. Sincerely S.B.Weston ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p041.jpg) Dwight Kans May 23, 1921 My Dear Sir. Yours to hand I hast to reply. Yes I will be at home & will be more than pleas to have you stop & see me. & give you eny information I can. I will all so write my comrad Hutson & if it is posabel have him meet you at my home I did not meet him at the G.A.R. encamptment last week. I told him I would send him A telegram when you would be here if he could come. When I heard from you. I would like for to meet him & hear from him about the condition off Coles men Rept C.S.Thomas ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p042.jpg) 16 Warnock Road Brookline Mass May 27/21 Mr W.M.Camp 7740 Union Ave Chicago Ill. Dear friend: Your letter of the 24 written on team came today. I am enclosing my correspondence with the War Dept see [---] to my last latter to Genl Mills showing Genl [---] complimentary order on the Parcell fight and the fact (offically) that Hoover and Littman were present with the Company Now if you will have them make out seperate affadavite (each for the other and himself) giving as full facts as possible of the fight and their presence in it. and forward them to me I will formulate one of my own & send all to the Adjt Genl requesting that medals be given. Very Sincerely Yours William [-]. Bisbee Bisbee ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p043.jpg) [The following written diagnally in the top left corner] answered 5/24/21 on train C.B.&A. 16 Warnock Road Brookline Mass May 6/21 Dear General Mills: In regard to Mr Camps letter of April 9 which is herewith returned as you re- quested I have to say that there was issued in the month of Sept 1867 or about there by General C. C. Angus Co[---]dy Dept of the Platte a command a tory general order complimenting Major Powell and his men for their action against Sioux Indians in the Wagon Boc (or hayfield) fight in August The order recommended Powell for [--]eact of Lt Col. which he recieved. I seg[--]d all these orders a Aid to Camp and am sure The discontinuance ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p044.jpg) [Column 1] of the Dept of the Platte some- time later must have sent all these records to the Adjt Genl at Washington or possibly to Hd.Q in Military Division of the Mississippee St Louis This can easily be found out An application to the Adjt Genl will probably produce the order and I will make a request today taking no further steps until getting his answer or hearing again from you or Mr Camp This order which I believe also commended the men would be a founda tion for the medal of honor but in support of a claim by Hoover and Littmann good strong affidavits would have to be made by them (each could swear for himself and the other) that [Column 2] they were present at the fight [--] My cerfificate could be added stating my confidence in their statement &c (the Master Roll of C. Co. 27[-] Inf will show their names for identification &c. It seems odd that Powell or the man did not do some thing about this before P. died but you and I know how modest these regular soldiers were about such things—and on second thought these medals of honor were not known in those days. or medals of any kind. Men did their duty and received thirteen dollars a month Sincerely Yours William C Brisbee Bisbee ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F33_B2_F11_p045.jpg) May 31, 1921 Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Illinois. Dear Mr. Camp: I presume you will be in attendance at the Custer cele- ration at Hardin this year. Unfortunately I will not be there but will be in Chicago. I am planning on taking the summer quarter at the University of Chicago in graduate work and will try to drop into your office sometime during the summer. I have asked Mr. Ryman, who is the county agricultural agent at Hardin, to meet you during the celebration and offer any services he can to regarding any work you may do this summer. I did not return until late last summer and there- fore do not know the outcome of your work last year and if the County Commissioners in those various counties stood the expense of the transportation of the markers. With kindest regards, I remain Very truly yours, M.L. Wilson MLW'C ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p001.jpg) June 2, 1921 Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Ill. My dear Mr. Camp:-- I hope you have arrived home safely and are quite well again on receipt of this letter. I have read General Bisbee's letter and feel that he will do his best to get those medals, not along for Hoover and myself, but for all those that can be found still living, such as: Gibson and Claus. I should certainly be pleased if the General will make up a form of affidavit, which I am sure I can honestly swear to and so can Hoover and Claus and Gibson. Enclosed please find letter of Gen.Bisbee returned. With kindest regards, I am Yours truly, M. Littmann ML ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p002.jpg) [The following written at the top of the page] Thus H Lafonge Answered 6/20/21 Wyola Mont June 9 1921 Wm Camp Dear old Frien I will write you a Lette to Day hoping it will find you well I would of writing you some time a go But I have Ben sick for some time. well I see we are a going to have a Big Lot of Pople here on the 25 of June, and that you are to Be with us. That is good. well Every thing looks good here. the cropes is just fine here this spring there will Be a Big crope, and with the oil Business I think thng will Be good ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p003.jpg) [The following written sideways in the top right corner] as Ever your old Friend Thos H Laforge [The following written in pencil next to the signature in the top right corner] LAFORGE is the futher well I have Not seen Q. Banes for some time I have he is all right and has Plentey to Eate so he is all right well. Thare is a good meney of the old time Pople, a. going over the Grate Devide But I am still a camping here But a Dont Know when I will Brake camp and move over to the Big Vligl. yet I am in hopes. my Lease wont run out for a while well as I Dont have Eny news to tell you nor and that I will see you soon so I will close hoping I will hear from you soon ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p004.jpg) June 14, 1921. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Dear Camp: I have your letter of June 8. Evidently there wasn't much of a reunion last Saturday without you and me. I am writing this to suggest that if you want to know anything about the Delaware Indians, make it a point some time to visit Mrs. Eugene Lawson, Nowata, Okla. She is a grandaughter of the last chief of the Delawares. They are very well-to-do folks, and fine people. I took dinner with them last night. She has an immense collection of Indian curios, and an ex- ceptionally fine collection of Indian arrows. I am quite sure that she can tell you many interesting things concerning the history of the Delawares. She started in on me with some of it, but I backed off and began talking about the fine Jersey cow which they keep in the back-lot. I am sorry that your trip to the Coman- ches was not entirely satisfactory, but am glad that you located Quinett. He is the man of whom I was trying to think. Regards. Faithfully yours John Fields ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p005.jpg) Princeton, New Jersey. June 14, 1921. Dear Judge Williamson: Referring to H. R. 6715, introduced by you May 31, 1921, a bill to amend Section 1, of an Act entitled "An Act to pension the survivors of certain Indian wars from January 1, 1859 to January, 1891, inclusive, and for other purposes" approved March 4, 1917: I am heartily in favor of this measure for it is designed to pension a few men whose services in the Indian campaigns of General Crook and General Miles, alone, were so valuable and were given under such circum- stances and in the face of so many perils that they deserve well of our country. I would suggest that the words "in the field under fire" be inserted between the word "serve" in line 8 and "in" in line 9, so that the bill, beginning with "Provided" shall read, "Provided, That this Act shall apply to the surviving civilian employees of the Quartermaster Department of the Army who served in the field under fire in the campaigns mentioned in this Act." This slight change will make the provi- sion of the measure applicable only to the scouts, guides, interpreters and packers who actively participated in skirmishes and battles and will exclude clerks, mechanics and such men who did not take part in the actual field operations where they would come under hostile fire and who, therefore, are not entitled to the benefits your bill seeks to confer upon the fighting civilian employees of the Quartermaster Department who served in the Indian campaigns referred to. The services of these scouts, guides, interpreters and packers were many times more valuable than those of the usual enlisted men. Through their in fluence with the friendly Indians they obtained coopera- tion and assistance of inestimable value to such com- manders as Generals Crook and Miles. Their duties were infinitely more dangerous than those of the ordinary enlisted soldier for they often were in the camps of hostiles alone, in constant danger of detection and assassination and they always held very prominent ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p006.jpg) Judge Williamson - positions in battle. The packers carried food and ammuni- tion to the front, often under fire and were frequently exposed to attack on the march without escort. There never were many of these men and I doubt if there are a dozen survivors. At this writing I can only bring two living to mind but they are so typical of the class that I shall mention them. One is Baptiste Pourier, known as "Big Bat," who is living, I believe at Manderson, South Dakota. Big Bat was born at St. Charles, Missouri, July 16, 1842, so a mere boy and began driving teams in the employ of traders with the Indians. In this work he acquired that thorough knowledge of Indian language and ways which made him one of the most valuable of the scouts and interpreters. In 1869 he was employed by the United States military author- ities as government scout, guide and interpreter at Fort Laramie, serving there and at Fort Phil Kearney, Fort G.F. Smith and other points. He served with General Crook in the campaign of 1876 against the Sioux, was with Lieutenant Sibley in his scout on the head of Tongue River in the mountains with thirty men where they were compelled to leave their horses and escape in the night, taking two days to return to Crook's command on Goose Creek, Wyoming. He also served under General McKenzie, General Merritt and General Miles on the frontier and was in the Messiah Craze and Ghost Dance troubles in 1890 and 1891, including the so-called Wounded Knee fight on Pine Ridge Reservation, South Dakota, December 29, 1890. The other is William Garnett of Pine Ridge, South Dakota, a half breed. He was born at Fort Laramie, Wyoming, April 25, 1855, so he now is 66 years old. His mother was a full-blood Oglala Sioux. He lived around frontier posts and in 1873, when but 18 years old, was employed by Indian Agent Saville, of Red Cloud Agency, where for three years he served as agency interpreter. In October of 1876, he was employed by the United States military authorities at Fort Robinson, Nebraska, as inter- preter, guide and chief of Indian scouts, continuing with the military authorities until 1878 and serving in a number of campaigns as a fighting civilian employe. He then re- entered the Indian Service under Dr. Irving, Indian Agent and, practically ever since has been employed by the Indian Office as interpreter and in other important positions. "Big Bat" is old, poor and feeble, unable to earn a living. Garnett is not making enough to support his ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p007.jpg) Judge Williamson - family and is feeling the effects of his arduous and dangerous services with the army. Both performed highly meritorious services in the field under fire and in hostile camps and on the trail. Both faced more dangers than en- listed men did; in all respects saving only they were not enlisted men, they were fighting soldiers and clearly are entitled to pensions. Their names are prominent in the history of the northwest and every white man who is living in security in Montana, Wyoming and the Dakotas is under obligations to them and to the other men of their class. I cannot too strongly urge the passage of your bill for we have delayed too long the substantial recognition of the invaluable services of these old scouts, guides, interpreters and packers, these civilians who not only risked their lives in battle but who went out alone to face the perils of ambuscades, running fights, assassi- nation in hostile camps, and capture as spies with certain death as the quick penalty. They carried dispatches through hostile Indian infested territory; they acted as guides and interpreters for the troops and without them the commanding officers in these campaigns would have been almost powerless to enlist the Indian scouts who did such fine service or to gain the helpful influence of friendly Indians. More than once they prevented bloodshed by boldly and alone riding into the Indian camps to finally win the restless Indians over to the side of the government. I earnestly hope your bill will pass. Sincerely yours, Hugh L. Scott Major-General U.S.A.,Retired. Hon.William Williamson, U. S. House of Representatives, Washington, D.C. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p008.jpg) June 15th—1921 My Dear Sir" I had a sentiment on Dec[--]action day to visit our protege in Ashland Cemetery. The grave had been rounded - and potted Geraniums placed - and I placed a placard at foot of grave and it was worded - in this way - beneath this stone lies the remains of Frank Groward. A celebrated scout in the Indian War of 1876. as you pass this way won't you bow the head and bend the knee as a tribute to his worth and his loyalty to his government. A.U.Banes M.D. I intend to plant in the spring a fine shimmering white Birch and made arrangement with the caretaker to keep the grave always in good order. Thot you would like ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p009.jpg) to know as you were instrumental in bringing this about. I leave on the 5th of July for Hotel Colorado Glenwood Springs, Colorado to rest for two months only around the corner. You might drop in [--]." I am worn to a gray[-]e as my coffier is crowded daily but very few men buying the health & vigor as the undersigned born 1845 and practiced 52 years sound as a Buck never sick in my life Irish, scotch, & welsh, a very good blend. Hope to meet you some day before taps are sounded Truly Yours Artilens Valerins "Bones" Whoop. [-]. [-]. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p010.jpg) 5120 Interior Building, June 16, 1921. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. My dear Camp: General Hugh L. Scott has become much interested in an effort to place upon the pension rolls a few remaining civilian employees of the Quartermaster Department who served under fire in the field in the Indian campaigns conducted by Generals Crook and Miles. Judge William Williamson who succeeded Harry Gandy as a member from South Dakota, has introduced a bill to effectuate this purpose and I am sending you a copy of it. Also I am sending you a copy of General Scott's letter commending the bill to Judge Williamson, which will tell you all about the men the General has in mind. I am writing to ask you if you know any such men and if you do will you send me their names and addresses if possible. If you approve of this bill General Scott would much appreciate your cooperation which could best be given by writing a letter to Judge Williamson something along the lines of the enclosed letter from General Scott. If you do this please send the letter to me for I am acting as "headquarters" in this little campaign and I am getting other letters. Sincerely yours, Malcolm McDowell (Malcolm McDowell,) Secretary. P. S. Enclosed is a list of Indian wars, etc., recently compiled by the Indian Office. You may find it interesting. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p011.jpg) Miami Texas. June 18-1921 Mr W. M. Camp. Chicago. Ill. Dear Sir: Your last letter was full of interest to me. I am glad you found so many of the Indians who remember the Adobe Walls fight. I thought that especially interesting about the one who saw the old ariginal Walls when he was just a boy. That spot ofcourse hold a clour interest to me than the later Adobe Walls because I lived there a long time and the most of my children were born there. You wont be at all surprised I dont guess when I tell you that I have had no reply to my letter to the Chapmann asking for permission to visit thing a couple of days. I wrote to Frank telling him that I was planning a business trip to Guthrie some time this month and would like to come by and see his father. I stated in my letter that I did not mean to ask them to intertain me in their own home ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p012.jpg) that I would put up at a hotel while in Seiling. I thought posible the idea of having me in their home during my stay would not suit them. I told Frank that my interest in his father layed in the fact that he was with my husband during one of the mortifying times of his life. In fact I wrote just the but I knew how to get their consent to let me come but I very much fear I failed to make my impression I also wrote Mr Thobson of my intended trip He wrote back sigest straight telling me to write to a friend of his at Touloga—Mr William P. Hickak—a lawyor—telling him of my plan to visit Amos and ask him to use his influence with Chapman in my behalf Mr Thobson certainly has very little confidence in any thing Amos Chapman says or does and he seems to think that he may retuse to see me at all That would indeed be a calamity long to be regreted by me. I have written Mr Hickak of my intentions of coming by to see Amos I intend to get started just as soon ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p013.jpg) as my pass comes. Mr Thoburn told me in this letter that there would be an ajourned session of the annual meeting of the Oklahoma Historical Society held in Oklahoma City the 25 of this month and it would be very nice if I could come on and meet some of the people In case the pass gets back in time I think I will go. The parties who have made the trip out on the Washita the last two times with me looking for the site of the Buffalo Wallow battle grounds are waiting for me to make this trip to see Amos Chapman before going out again. We want to go and stay several days next time. Before I forget it I want to tell you that I also wrote the War Dept concerning the removal of the soldiers body from the wallow. They wrote me saying there was no record of the body being removed. However, I can readily understand that such a thing could have happened with out the Gov. having a record but it would be hard to make me believe it. My husband was at T. Elliot from the time it was established and until ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p014.jpg) it was disbanded and if such a thing had happened I surely think he would have known about it. Mr Stribbling came to me a few weeks ago when we were having an eastern star public installation on the masonic hall and told me that he had recently talked with a man who lives in Clarendon who could tell me a lot of things which he knew would be of interest to me. Among the things being a full account of the killing of the large number of Gov. horses by McKinzie rather than have them fall into the hands of the Indians also said this man could tell me all about the Goodnight trail. Mr Stribbling added "some time we will take you down to see this man" That would be very nice and when I go I will tell you all about it. I havent got your last letter before me so dont know whether I have answered your questions or not but do know that I have written a long letter. With very best wishes I am, Sincerely Olive Dixon ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p015.jpg) June 21st 1921 Mr W M Camp 7740 Union Avenue Chicago, My dear Mr Camp Your 2 letters dates May 31st & June 2nd came to hand in due time. I will not try to answer in detail at this time but will waite untill you are here to talk things over we had a 2 days rain yesterday & the day before & the country looks green & wet also good to us as this is the first good rain for 3 years. Now about your visit come when you can & that will be the time for me win me when you start & I will try & meet you at Ismay or Miles City & if I am not in sight when you arive at town call over phone from eithe place we will arange details of trip after ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p016.jpg) you are here & just by ourselves as you suggest will be best I think I wish we had Walkers report as it might help us did you try Topeka as he was from Kansas—oh well we will go with what we have & if you should get the Cole documents from the Son dont forget to bring them will I am hoping to see you soon I am yours sencerely Dan H Bowman ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p017.jpg) Nowata, Oklahoma. June 30, 1921. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir: Your letter of June 21, has been received and I am glad to be able to give you a little information about the Delaware Scouts who were with General Nelson A. Miles. I have often heard my grandfather and some of my uncles speak of this expedition and have heard a number of stories regarding those who went from the Delaware Tribe, but it is just real hazy in my memory at this time. However, one scout, John Stout, of Delaware, just about six miles North of here is one of the remaining scouts. I under- stand he is now very ill and it is feared that he will never re- cover. I shall make further inquiry and see if I can secure any data from him which might be of interest to you. My father, J. E. Campbell, who has been in this country about forty-five years knew captain Fall Leaf and not Falling Leaf as you have it. He has a son George Fall Leaf who lives either near Dewey or Bartlesville, Oklahoma. I think you might find the information you want regarding Captain Fall Leaf from Rev. John Sarcoxie, Bartlesville, Oklahoma, as he is one of the oldest prominent men of the tribe left, and I feel sure he will be able to assist you. Calvin Everett was also one of the Scouts, but he died several years ago. However, tow of his children are liv- ing in this County. I am sending you under separate cover biography of my grand- father's life which might be of some interest to you, and you may return it when you have finished with it for we have only a few copies left. If at any time you are in this part of the country I should be very glad to have you see our Indian collection, and talk with you about the Delawares. Mr. Fields was very kind in his praise of our collection and felt sure that you would be interested in it. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p018.jpg) Page # . W M C Any added information I might be able to secure I will gladly forward to you. Most cordially, REL-NH Mrs. Eugene B. Lawson ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p019.jpg) [The following handwritten at the top of the page] Gen Bisbee 7740 Union Ave., July 13, 1921. Gen. William H. Bisbee, 16 Warwick Road, Brookline, Mass. My Dear Gen. Bisbee:-- In accordance with your letter of May 27 I have had Sergeants Hoover and Littmann make out affidavits as to their pres- ence in the Wagon Box battle, of Aug.2,1867, and enclose them herewith. I regret that absence from the city at the time your letter arrived and several times since has delayed me somewhat in attending to this matter. It appears, from the affidavits, that there are two more survivors of the battle still living, namely Claus and Gibsen. I have not written them about this matter of applying for medals of honor, but will do so and ask for their affidavits if you think advisable. I am herewith returning to you your correspondence with the A. G. O. and their replies to the same, with the exception of printed Gener- al Order No. 39, Headquarters Dept. of the Platte, which I will forward in the course of a few days. It contains valuable information of three seperate engagements, including the Wagon Box fight, which I would like to make a copy of before returning. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p020.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., July 14, 1921. Hon. William Williamson, Congressman from South Dakota, Washington, D.C. Dear Sir:-- I have been informed that you have introduced, or are about to introduce, a measure (H.R.6715) for the relief of civilian employees of the Quartermasters' Dept. who saw service in the Indian Wars of the West and were actually under fire. I understand that it is the purpose of this bill to pension such men. I desire to express to you my approval of an Act properly drawn for such a purpose, and I sincerely hope that it may pass and become law. For more than twenty years I have been making historical studies of the Indian campaigns of the plains country since the Civil War, and I have met a goodly number of men who served as civilians guides, scouts, packers, teamsters who endured much hardship and performed valuable services for the Government. From the statements of officers and enlisted men whom I have interviewed many of these civilians who accompanied troops on cam- paigns were indispensable. Many of them were killed in the service, and, from the nature of their duties, they were often in greater peril than were the soldiers whom they accompanied. Their knowledge of the country and of the movements or habits of the Indians was frequently sought by commanding officers, and the success of a campaign or the ability to extricate troops from desperate situations often depended upon information made available by these civilian fighters. These men are now old, and some of them are in want and but few of them are surviving. I have traveled the West quite widely, and I know that in recent years the majority of the Civilian Army Scouts and Guides whom it has been my fortune to meet have passed away. Out of some fifty or Sixty whom I have known less than twenty are now living. As a class I should say that they are as deserving of pensions as are the officers and soldiers with whom they served. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p021.jpg) 67th CONGRESS, 1st Session. H. R. 6715. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. MAY 31, 1921. Mr. WILLIAMSON introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Com- mittee on Pensions and ordered to be printed. A BILL To amend section 1 of an Act entitled "An Act to pension the survivors of certain Indian wars from January 1, 1859, to January, 1891, inclusive, and for other purposes," approved March 4, 1917. 1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa- 2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, 3 That the first section of the Act entitled "An Act to pension 4 the survivors of certain Indian wars from January 1, 1859, 5 to January, 1891, inclusive, and for other purposes," ap- 6 proved March 4, 1917, be amended as follows: "Provided, 7 That this Act shall apply to the surviving civilian employees 8 of the Quartermaster Department of the Army who served 9 in the campaigns mentioned in this Act." ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p022.jpg) 67TH CONGRESS, 1ST SESSION} H.R. 6715. A BILL To amend section 1 of an Act entitled "An Act to pension the survivors of certain Indian wars from January 1, 1859, to January, 1891, inclusive, and for other purposes," approved March 4, 1917. By Mr. WILLIAMSON MAY 31, 1921.—Referred to the Committee on Pensions and ordered to be printed. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p023.jpg) [The following written in the top right corner] FALL LEAF Delaware Scout July 17 1921 Mr W. M. Camp. Dear Sir. In reply to you letter of July 8 will refer you to Philmore Secondine of Alluu O.K as he was one of the men that went with Fall Leaf. and the only one living now that i know of. i will send your letter to him and maby he can tell you of some one elce your truly John Sarcoxie 924 Senica Bartlesville O.K. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p024.jpg) these men went with him but are Dead Jackson Simon. Siles Fall leaf. Charie Armstrong. Haris Swansick. Bill Swansick. Mornern Evertt. Gorge Willams this man was in the Mexico and Civls wars also. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p025.jpg) 5120 Interior Building, July 18, 1921. My dear Camp: Thank you for your letter of July 14th. in which you name some of the civilians who accompainied the troops on Indian campaigns and for whom General Scott is trying to get pensions. I will send the letter which you wrote approving the bill for this purpose to the Hon. William Williamson of South Dakota. There is a fair chance of my going to North Dakota the latter part of August. If I do I will be among the Sioux for a month or more. As ever yous, McDowell McDowell Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave. Chicago, Illinois. [The following handwritten on the bottom of the page] How's the book coming on? are you placing on poper what you know about Indian campaigns? ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p026.jpg) Dodge City, Kans July 23-21. Mr. W. M. Camp. 7746 Union Ave. Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir:- In one of your letters sometime ago you said that you were contemplating making a trip to the Pan handle and as I have not heard anything further in regard to it I thought I would write you about it. Brisk Band, Tom Stanth and myself are going down about the 1st of September. Have you ever finished the story you were going to ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p027.jpg) write about the Adobe Walls. I am enjoying good health. Kindly let me hear from you. Yours truly Andy Johnson. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p028.jpg) 106 W. Green St Johnstown N.Y. July 24—21 Mr W M Camp Yours of the 19th inst is received. Thank you for the compliment. I said in the New York Herald either of the 21st or 22nd of this month a letter from a party who signs himself "H H" at Washington D.C, in which he denies some of my statements in regard to the Custer affair but says nothing about the balance oft the rest of my letter, He says Custer was in command, and he and Reno was sent out together by order of General Terry, also that Reno charged the Indian Village by order of Gen'l Custer and some other "rot" that I am not going to take the trouble to answer. I did think I would answer and ask him how Custer could get or take any orders from Terry if if he (Custer) was in Supreme Command Does he think that Terry was such a fool as to think that a skelatin of a regiment could wipe out between 2000 and 3000 Sioux warriors well armed with repeating rifles & "busk", Besides there was no Indian Village for Reno to charge upon, The sqaws and papooses was not there. If "H"H" had seen life on the Frontier I would it back to him but the chances are he was never far West. (over) ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p029.jpg) No I did not know Philo Clard personally, but if memory serves me right [--] he was a trustey and reliable scout of Gen'l Miles in other campaigns. I was in the Civil War, then in 1864 went in the regular army, and after the war closed I served on the Frontier until 1871, The last fort I was on duty was Fort Ellis Montana in the Gallatin Valley. Was afterwards connected at intervals the army as a citizen. You ask about There was no "herding cattle" in that part of the milk river country through which we passed, we saw no signs of civilization whatever, not even a fence, ranch, home, or anything like a settlement until we got back to starting point at Fort Keough near Miles City at the mouth of the Tongue river where it emties in the Yelow- stone. I kept no diary so am unable to give days of the month. You must remember these things happened over 40 years ago, but the most im and main incidents are fresh in my memory. If I had kept a diary, the minor incidents and some dates would make interesting [word smudged] reading now. Wishing you every success in your his- torical work I am Resp Yours James H Park ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p030.jpg) Brookline Mass July 28/21 My dear Mr Camp: Thinking it best that you should know all that is being done for Hoover and Littman up to date and that you may want to inform them I am enclosing all the papers which you are at liberty to forward to the Adjt General adding such further re- marks of your own as might be of help. Army Officers are not permitted to influence legislation this congressman or a good term might be done these men, sooner, by an Act of Congress. The secretary of ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F34_B2_F12_p031.jpg) War may however see fit to act upon my letter (enclosed) You may do as you think best and in regard to the other two men it is suggested that we wait upon the outcome of there already sumitted ke[---]th With best wishes Sincerely William A. Bisbee 16 Warwick Road ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p001.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Aug.6,1921. Gen. William H.Bisbee, 16 Warwick Road, Brookline, Mass. My Dear Gen. Bisbee:-- I have received your letter of July 28 enclosing your letter to the Adjt. General, U.S. Army, the affidavits of John M. Hoo Hoover and Max Littmann, and two affidavits of your own, all with refer- ence to an application for medals of honor for these two men for their gallantry at the Wagon Box battle, Dakota Territory, Aug.2,1867. The affidavits and the letter addressed to the Adjt. General I have forwarded to the latter, and I have also sent to Hoover and Littmann the copies of your letter of application which you kindly enclosed. I know that it will please these old men to find learn that, at this late date, an officer of their regiment at the time of their service more than 50 years ago, can attest to their gallantry and ask for recog- nition in the form of the granting of medals. I trust that the request for these medals will be granted, and desire to thank you for the prompt and hearty manner in which you have done your part toward securing for these veterans the recognition that is due them. Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p002.jpg) July 18, 1921. TO REO DISTRIBUTORS AND DEALERS:- We are preparing to give you an advertising service which should be of immense assistance to you, and we are confident that every dealer will readily appreciate its great value to them. It is to be a monthly magazine known as the "Reo Review." It will be devoted to both Passenger Cars and Speed Wagons, and so will absorb the "Speed Wagon News" and broaden its sphere of usefulness. The first issue will appear September 1st. It will be a handsome sixteen page publication, 9 x 12" in size, printed in two colors on first-class paper stock. Each issue will contain six full page illustrations reproduced in colors from drawings by high-class artists. The remaining pages will be profusely illustrated with photographs of REC Passenger Cars and Speed Wagons in their many intersting and novel experiences and occupations. "Reo Review" will interest every member of the family. We will stand the entire expense of this proposit- ion with the exception of the postage (one-cent per copy) which will be charged to you. Circulation is to be made exclusively by mailing single copies direct from the print- ers to individual names furnished by you. Each distributor and dealer will be entitled to furnish five names for each car or Speed Wagon in his yearly allotment. In other words, a dealer contracting for one hundred units will be entitled to furnish five hundred names for the "Reo Review" mailing list. In the near future we will mail you blanks for listing names. In the meantime you can be selecting your names. Utmost care should be exercised in doing so for the benefits you will receive from this advertising will depend solely on the character of the names you send us. We would suggest that you include the names of all loyal REO owners and also the owners of other cars you hope to interest in the future. Also include the names of promi- nent and influential men and women in your community--bank- ers, lawyers, docters, merchants--you never know when some- ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p003.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Aug.6,1921. Mr. Max Littmann, 900 Howard St., St. Louis, Mo. My Dear Mr. Littmann:-- I presume that you are now in Europe, but when you return I know that you will be pleased to learn that application had been made to the War Dept.,by Gen. Bisbee, for medals of honor for you and Sergeant Hoover for gallantry in the Wagon Box battle. I enclose a copy of Gen. Bisbee's letter to the Adjt. General in behalf of you two men which accompanied your affidavits. Gen. Bisbee also made sworn affidavit stating his belief that you two men were actually in the fight. Gen. Bisbee says that he will take up the cases of Gibson and Claus after he learns the result of the present application. Hoping that your trip in Europe will prove a pleasant one and that you and Mrs. Littmann are enjoying good health, I remain Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p004.jpg) GOLFERS! —FORE! FOURTH 1921 TOURNAMENT Monday, August 15th At the Attractive OAK PARK COUNTRY CLUB OAK PARK. ILL. ~Events~ Low net, 18 holes, either morning or afternoon, for classes A, B and C. First and second prizes for each class. Best foresome. Handicap. 18 holes. Low net, either a. m. or p. m. Prizes. Ball sweepstakes in the afternoon, 18 holes. Handicap. A new system will govern the distribution of the ball prizes to winners. 36 hole event for all classes. Handicap. Low net. Prize. For guests, 18 holes, low net. Prize. Continued play for the new President's Cup, Denise Trophy and Llowellyn Cup. Luncheon at 1:00 P. M. ~ Dinner at 6:30 P. M. Please send in your acceptance early on the enclosed card. Please register your guests, giving your name, and thereby help the committee. ~Trains~ Going: Automobiles and C. & N. W. R. R. at 7:25, 7:50, 8:16 and 11:25 a. m. and 12:26 p. m. (Railroad Time.) CHICAGO ENGINEERS CLUB Golf Committee ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p005.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Aug. 6, 1921. Mr. John M. Hoover, Halstead, Kans. My Dear Mr. Hoover:-- I am pleased to tell you that application for medals of honor has been made to the War Dept. for you and Mr. Littmann, by Gen. Bisbee, and I enclose a copy of his statement to the Adjutant General in you behalf. He says he will take up the cases of Gibson and Claus as soon as he learns the result of the application for you and Littmann. Did you send the affidavit to the State Library at Cheyenne, Wyo., and what reply did they make to the same? I trust that you are still in good health. It is now nearly a year since we met out in Wyoming. I did not go out there this year, and have not yet had a vacation. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p006.jpg) Chicago, June 1, 1921. Dear friend and neighbor:- I am exceedingly anxious to make the best possible showing for the Republican Judges, Election day, June 6, 1921, and would urgent- ly request that you take just a few minutes to vote before going to work. The polling place will be open from 6 A.M. until 4 P.M. Your support and vote for the Republican ticket will be greatly appreciated, and considered a lasting obligation by, Yours respectfully, Wilbur McGinnis, J. G. Mitchell, District Manager. Precinct Committeeman. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p007.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Aug.10,1921. Mr. Andrew Johnson, C[-]o St. Mary's Academy, Dodge City, Kans. My Dear Mr. Johnson:-- Your letter of July 23 was duly received, but absense from home has prevented earlier reply. I have not yet published the story of the Adobe Walls battle. The war prices of publication have been so high that it is too much of an undertaking to try to bring out a new book during these days. I was in Oklahoma in May and talked with some Comanches who were in the battle at Adobe Walls. Their account is quite interesting. They lay the blame for the attack on Quanah Parker and a medicine man. These old Comanches say that Parker and the Medicine man schemed the whole thing, thinking they would make themselves famous. They say that the white men who defended the place were a nervy bunch. They tell how some of them got up to the stockade and tried to set it on fire, and how some others hugged up close to one of the buildings, with a heavy pole, and tried to ram the door down. I note that you, Bond and Stauth are planning a trip into the Panhandle about Sept. 1st. How I wish I could arrange to go down there with you at that time, but I shall not be able to get away from my work that early. I contemplate making a trip into the Panhandle about the end of October or early November, this year, and next summer may make an au- tomobile trip into Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas looking up battlefield landmarks. If you men should visit the site of the Adobe Walls fight I wish you would set a stake or other marker where the buildings stood. There in nothing there now to mark the place, and the ridges of earth where the sod walls fell down are hardly noticeable with certainty. The place is on the Turkey Track ranch, and the owner of it and I are planning to put up a bronze plate where the battle [illegible deletion] occurred, so be sure to mark the place or get the exact legal description by measuring to the survey lines. Please let me hear from you after you have been there. Yours truly, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p008.jpg) THE CHICAGO BAR ASSOCIATION 105 WEST MONROE STREET CHICAGO May 31, 1921. TO THE VOTERS OF COOK COUNTY: Have you decided how to vote at the important election of judges next Monday, June 6th? If you go into court to assert or defend your rights, you get a lawyer to represent you before the judge and jury. He fights your case for you. You follow his advice because he knows. The lawyers in their daily work come to know the judges. The lawyers know that unless we elect honest, fearless, independent judges we cannot protect our liberty or our property. They know it makes no difference whether a judge is a Republican or a Democrat if he is honest, fearless and independent. The lawyers know that in a court controlled by political influence a citizen is helpless when that influence is used against him. The lawyers know from every-day experience which of the candidates will make the best judges. The Chicago Bar Association is made up of a majority of the lawyers who practice in Cook County courts. It represents all classes of lawyers and all political parties. The Chicago Bar Association voted as between the two tickets for Circuit Court judges as follows: For the Coalition non-partisan (Democratic) ticket......1545 For the City Hall machine (Republican) ticket............. 177 By this overwhelming majority of 9 to 1 the lawyers who know the can- didates have voted to recommend the Coalition non-partisan ticket which you will find on the ballot under the heading "O DEMOCRATIC." There are twenty candidates. Ten are Republicans and ten are Democrats. Seventeen of the twenty are now sitting judges. The ten Republicans were placed on the ballot in the Democratic column because the City Hall machine having gained control of the Republican party machinery tried to drive from the bench all of the sitting Republican judges except five whom it renominated for its own purposes. The City Hall machine already controls the legislative and executive branches of the State and City governments. It now seeks to control the courts which make up the judicial branch. It is ruthlessly sacrificing honest, fearless, independent judges of its own party to obtain absolute power over the people of this county. If you want independent judges, free to give justice according to law, who will protect your home and your family, vote the non-partisan Coalition ticket by placing a cross in front of each name in the Democratic column. Do not be misled by those who tell you that if you vote the Democratic ticket you lose your right to vote at any Republican primary. IT IS NOT TRUE. You can vote whether you are registered or not. If not registered, obtain an affidavit at the polling place on election day. Women now for the first time have an equal right with men to vote for judges. In the spirit of civic interest, vote and get your friends to vote. Yours very truly, THE CHICAGO BAR ASSOCIATION. By John R. Montgomery, President. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p009.jpg) Halstead Kansas 15 August 1921 Mr W M Camp Chicago. Dear Sir Yours of the 6 came to hand in due time glad to know that you were well & glad to know that General Bisbee has not forgotten what we had to take around Phil Karney. I think that he ought to put all of the names in together and if one failed let all go together. I do not want any thing more than the Rest. I hope you are well I will send The Reply I got from Shien yours Truly John M Haus ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p010.jpg) [The following handwritten at the top and in the right corner of the page] FISK expedition Deep Creek fight 7740 7740 Union Ave., Aug. 16, 1921. Mr. H.H.Larned, Lansing, Mich. Dear Sir:-- For diversion and recreation I have, for a good many years, been studying the Indian wars of thePlains country, with a view to write some history of these wars and of frontier days of the West. I have paid some attention to the expedition of Capt. Fiske, in 1864, but without getting much first-hand information. I have two orthree soldiers who were at Ft. Rice at that time, but their information was based on heresay only. A friend in the West has sent me a copy of a Hettinger news- paper, in which I find an account of the finding of the graves of eight men of Fiske's party who were killed in a battle on Deep Creek in what is now the southwestern North Dakota. The same account states that you were recently out in that part of the country looking up landmarks. I would therefore like to ask you if you can refer me to any published account of the expedition written by you or others in magazines or newspapers, giving me dates of publication; or [illegible deletion] have you any newspaper [illegible deletion] clippings that you could lend me? The Hettinger account states that Casper Schafer, a local rancher, found the graves near his home, but does not give the name of any town near the point that would assist me to look up the loca- tion. Could you give me the postoffice address of this man Schafer? May I also ask you about how far it was from the battle of Deep Creek to the point where the party was corraled by the Indians many days, until reinforcements [illegible deletion] were sent out from Ft. Rice? I might say that I have traveled pretty much all over the plain in the past 21 years in a study of the Indian campaigns. I have de- voted 19 summer vacations to this kind of study, and have talked wit the old Sioux and Cheyennes about these battles a good deal. The nearest landmark that the Indians have given me, referring to this battle and siege, was Sentinel Butte. They told me it was not far from Sentinel Butte. I have made two trips with an automobile in that part of the country, passing through Marmarth, and think of going again next year, on my way to Miles City. Any information that you can give me regarding this historical matter will be useful to me in my investigations, and will be muchappreciated. Yours sincerely, [The following written upsidedown at the bottom of the page] Why is it that an industry ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p012.jpg) Rock Port, Mo., 8-25 1921 W M Camp Editor Chicago Ill Friend Camp It has been a long time since I have heard from you. So thought I would drop a line. We are well at our home & able to eat & drink—Now Camp how about the book. anything new to tell—I wish you would send me a copy of my travels in the big horn country. Not that I expect to publish it but to look out over in a while. With best wishes for you & yours I am very truly D A Calvin [The following written diagnally in the bottom left corner] answered 9/29/21 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p014.jpg) Nat. Mill Home Dayton Augst 25th 21 Friend Camp I am a Delegate to a Soldiers Convention that meets Sept 16th in the Northern Hotel Chicago and will last 3 days I will arrive in Chicago between the 10th and 1[-]th and will likely remain about 18 days. I hope to see you at that time. There was a full Page article in the Mel Milwaukee Journal of June 10th about Custer last fight. from the Pen of General King. I seen in the National Tribune that General ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p015.jpg) Godfrey has published a pamplet of the Battle of little Big Horn. I wrote to General Godfrey for a copy of it 2 weeks ago and have not received a reply yet. I hope to meet a few Indian fighters at the Convention I think unfug of San Francisco will be there. After I return from Chicago I think I will go to the Home in Washington for the winter as I would like to see John Fox There is another D Troop man by the name of Green there I do not know which one as we had two Greens in the Troop in the Seventys. We have about 700 late war men in this home now and the Marion and Johnson City Homes are turned over to them Entirely there is a good many of them in all the other Homes to I think as nearly as many as of all other wars combined. hoping to see you next month I Remain Truly Yours Fremont Kipp ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p016.jpg) Nat Mil Home Dayton ohio Sept 2nd 21 Friend Camp I expect to be on the train that arrives in Chicago at 5.30 PM Sept 13th Stop at Northern Hotel the next morning I will go to my Sister Home for the day. and return to the Hotel late that night and will be at the Hotel until the the Eve of Sept 17th after that time will be at my Sister for about 2 weeks. our comrades in ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p017.jpg) Chicago have arranged for a trip on the Canal for Sunday the 18th So I think I will be with them on that trip. I received Pamplet and am Encloseing Kings article in this. I sent my aplication for addmission to the Washington Home in yesterday, and will hear from it while I am in Chicago. hoping to see you in Chicago I remain Yours Truly Fremont Kipp ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p018.jpg) 4 Sept 21 Dear Mr Camp: You may be interested in the inclosed from "Brin". Need not re- turn them. Had five weeks camp July with some horn each day in saddle. and have been very busy can sin[-] but am figuring in a run to Camp, Frank & Shirdan in near future & if I stop over in Chicago an hour or two will look you up. As ever yours Charles King Charles King [The following written diagnally in the bottom left] Answered 9/10/21 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p019.jpg) Sept 9 1921 Mr W M Camp 7740 Union Ave Chicago Ills. My dear Sir. I reached home yesterday PM from a 95 day trip over western prairies and mountains and find yours of Augt 16th awaiting me. I visited many places in the Dakotas which I knew well from 1864 to 1870. one of the spots and events was the Capt Fisk Expedition in the summer of 1864. I am enclosing a paper (separate wrapper) discribing my recent visit to that spot 7 miles East of Marmarth where we spend 20 days of thrilling experiences in Sept 1864. the paper has it very nearly as I told it to the party on the ground with me July 1st last. Very truly H. H. Larned Larned ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p020.jpg) Wyola Mont Sept 15 1921 My Dear Old Friend I will write you a few lines to Day. Hoping they will find you well. I my self. I am Not Very will. yet I am not sick I think. I have seen to meny snows is one thing. I think is think is the cose of it. I can git a round yet on horse Back and I am a good walken yet. But I feel hevey I think I will take a trip off some whare. The senery a round here is getting to old. For me I will go som whare the senery is New ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p021.jpg) and then will feel young a gane. well I saw 2 Bairs a week or so a go he Looks fat and said the family was as all well I was Down to the 45 Devings at Coles Battle field I met meny of my old time Friends thare thare was a Big Croud thare very s[---] you could Not Be thare with us. Well if our medisen keeps good mabey the Next an[---]sty. we will Be thare well I have writing 2 Letters to Gen Scott and good No anser as yet I sent you a coppey of Billings Gettets Paper [-]id I hop you got all Right it gave a very good acount of the ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p022.jpg) [The following written in the top right corner] Laforge [The following written sideways in the top margin] write soon as I take to hure from you after tom Denings of the Day at Custers Battle Field. Well my arme a Broke is not well yet I think I will make a tripe over to Lodge Grass in a few Days. and git some trout. over at my Daughters Place thars is good Fishing Now so she tell me well as I dem not know of Eney thing Elce to write you I will Bring my letter to a Close hoping I will hure frome you soon, and that we will meet a gane G[-]set my Best wishes and regard to all of you loved ones From you old Friend, Horse Rider. Thos N. Leforge ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p023.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Sept.16,1921. Dr. Gertrude Minthorn, Newport, Oregon. Dear Madam:-- Out in Idaho, near Lapwai, there is a Nez perce Indian, about 60 years of age, named John Minthorn. He was one of the fighting men of White Bird's band (associated with Joseph) in the Nez Perce war of 1877. I understand that he is a full-blood Indian, with no blood rela- tionship with white people. His Indian name I am not now able to recall. The origin of English names among Indians, if not by intermarriage, is of course, by adoption. Being well acquainted with , personally, among many Indian nations of the West, I am aware that the adoption of English names among them came [illegible deletion]<[---]> various relationships; in some cases out of consideration purely of friendship; some adppted the family name of a missionary or other person who had befriended them; others took the name of some white person of prominence or a white person whose character or qualities was held in admiration by the Indians, and for other reasons. I would like to ask if you are acquainted with this namesake of yours among the Nez Perce Indians, and whether you can tell me how he came to adopt that name. 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Name_________ Address________ ____________ ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p025.jpg) Oct 13 1921 Mr W M Camp 7740 Union Avenue Chicago. My dear Mr Camp Your letter date 17th Sept came in due time & I was glad to hear from you I had been expecting you instead of the letter & planning on that Cole Trip. but after all we can do it next year just as well or better & I too hope to have more time, this has indeed been a strenuous season for us in fact this whole western country has had more real grief piled up & handed out in a financial way than I ever thot could be experienced by a set of people—Oh well—I will at Chicago Stock Yards on monday Oct 24th & maybe I will get to see you & we can talk things over. I am sending back the Calamity Jane picture I think this Calamity all right but highly made up as photogs do in loses of this kind some time ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p026.jpg) I am geting some good dope rel to her you may have it but but no matter it wont hurt & I tell it when I see you—I am on the trail of the pamphlet for you & hope I can round it up I wont write much now hoping that I may see you soon I am yours sincerely Dan H Bowman ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p027.jpg) Washington, D.C. Oct 15,1921. Mr W.M. Camp, No.7740 Union Ave, Chicago, Ills. Friend Camp;- Pleased to hear that you are coming this way, and expect you will find me at Ward S, Hospital. Will be at liberty to accompany you at any day with the exception of Wednesday of each week. Did you see a Butte, Montana paper of August 27th 1921 inregards to the Little Big Horn Battle. Three old Comrades, one a former member of the 7th U.S. Infty, one a former member of the 2nd U.S.Cav., both of whom were in Gibbons Command, which accompanied General Terry to the Battle-field on June 27th. The third Comrade was Donahue, of Troop K 7th U.S. Cavalry, and in their Re-union they were spinning tales for the benifit of a Reporter of the Butte Post. They mentioned some of the truths, but also some that were Whoppers, they had Major Reno's Battallion with Sabres drawn, Carbines out, Charging and Re-charging through the Indian Village. They picture Major Reno as a Hero and speak very highly of his Gen- eralship. In my Military career, I am un-able to remember anything in the Dr- ill Regulations that would re-call Carbines Out. I am of the opinion that the members would have to had rather long arms to reach back to Ft Lincoln to draw their Sabres, as they had been left behind. However, it might be worth your while to send for a copy of this pap- er as you may un-earth something in the contents of that date that will in- terest you Younhave not fell down in your predictions as to my liking the Home here, for I am certainly in love with the general conditions and surround- ings. Will be more than pleased to see you on your arrival in the Capital City, and expect to introduce you to a former of the 7th U.S. Cavalry who is here by the name of Cockran, serving in Troop K on the Big Horn. Friendly as ever, Frement Kipp, Box 1907, Washington, D.C. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p028.jpg) Rock Port, Mo., 10-17, 1921 Friend Camp Your kind letter came duly also Mrs Custer's book. I was glad to hear from you & also glad to get the book. I did not see what became of Mich Bony an scout I think he got away. I was acquainted with him. he was ½ Indian & ½ French a good scout. The Indians was better armed than the troops caused the trouble. We are all Well at home & would be glad to see you at any time. Yours Truly D A Calvin ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p029.jpg) 11/8/21. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. My dear Mr. Camp: I have just had several copies made of your letter addressed to Mr. McDowell and I am inclosing one copy herewith. I am certainly very glad that you called my attention to this letter as it gives me a viewpoint on the American Indian which I have never had. I appreciate it very much and shall make good use of it. I also received the book "On the Indian Trail", by A. Lyle Van Dyne. I read this book yesterday, and I will admit that it has started me to thinking; I wonder how much truth there is in it, that is how much true local atmosphere it furnishes. Of course I can see the reference, now that you have called my attention to it, to Dr. Montezuma, but I have been wondering who were the other characters in her book. You and I will talk it over the next time you come to Washington, but in the mean time I want to thank you for so kindly sending it to me. Very truly yours, Winifred E. Allen. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p030.jpg) Fremont Kipp Nov 14th 21 Box 1907 See P.S. Page 5 Washington D.C. My Dear Mr Camp we had a nice time with the general at the club after lunch we met Gen. Scott and Col. Merrel, and some talk with them am sending news Cliping of the same. We had with us a man who claims to be Peter Thompson of C. Troop. he is either a liar or is not Peter Tompson. I think that Tompson was with Pack Train. but this man tells a Cock and Bull Story about the last set of forms of C Troop falling out near the lone Teepie and two of them taking the back Trail and going Pack Train and Claims ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p031.jpg) that a man f that a man named Watson and his own horses were played out and they left their horses and followed Custer Custer's Trail to a point 300 yds from where Custer was killed then seeing that Custer and his Batalion were all killed he and Watson tried to get in Indian Vill Vilage getting within 75 yards of the nearest Teepies when they were Discovered by the Indians. when I asked if he crossed the river he said they got to the midle of river and were driven back by the Indians, he did say how they being a foot got away from mounted Indians and I asked him where he joined Reno's Command all I could out of him ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p032.jpg) was that he he Bore to the left. he also told me that you told him that Gen Edgerly had told you about seeing two men join the Command on the hill but that Edgerly did not know who the two men were and found out. when I asked him why they did not report as soon as they joined as about Custer command being all killed and the fact that the officers now men of Renos Command did not know of Custer fate until Terry's Com- mand came up on the 27th of June he said do you think they would have believed what two privates reported he thought they might have been believed if they had been officers or even sergeants. he also said he made six trips to the river after water ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p033.jpg) if he is Peter Thompson he must have been a packer but Peter Thompson may be dead and this man may have got posession of his Dicharge and Medal of Honor some way. none of us at the Club believed him therefor when Gen Godfrey gave our names to the reporter his name was not given. There was a small item in the Star of the 10th from the relatives of a W J Bailey of 1233 Penn Ave Southest who had read the account of Peter Thompson arrival in the claiming that Mr. Bailey was also a survivor stating he was Sent to Gen Terry Command just before the fight for Medical Suplies Mechlin and I intend looking him up, hoping [illegible deletion] a early reply I remain Fremont Kipp ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p034.jpg) P.S. This Suposed Peter Thompson lives in Montana Near little Mosouri River. I do not remember of any Horses playing out in fact our Horses were in fine Shape when we left Fort Lincoln and our Marches were not Extrmely Hard F Kipp ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p035.jpg) THE SUNDAY STAR. WASHINGTON, D. C., NOVEMBER 13, 1921-PA[-] [column 1] Now Ready—The New Homefurnishings Section. This department is now located on the Fifth floor—where you will find at all times complete lines of high quality Rugs, Floorcoverings, Cur- tains and Draperies. Many useful articles for Christmas giving will be found there. [column 2] LANSBURGH & BROTH[-] HOM[-] NEWS for Monday, November 14, 1921 A Home-Decoration Sale--Curtains, Creto[-] ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p036.jpg) SUNDAY STAR, WASHINGTON, D. C., NOVEMBER 13, 1921—PART 1. [Column 1] [Page torn on the left side, making many words illegible] [-]if I were to be riding [-]ew automobile." [-]u achknowledged to hav- [-]soap-box orator," but de- [-] had made a bid for the [-] by kissing their chil- [-]gienic," she said, "and [-]bies." [-]RUMRUNNERS HELD. Fla., November 12.—Bond [-]r Capt. Burns and $2,000 [-]four members of the crew [-]oner C. C. Jr., captured [-]00 cargo of liquor Thurs- Gulf and brought here, [-]y United States Commis- [-]e this morning at the pre- [-]earing. Trial has been set [-]ay, November 17. [The following title above the third and fourth columns] Men Who Served With Custer Recall Little Big Horn Fight [Column 2] Oblivious to the buzz of conversa- tion that emanated from the several hundred American, British, French and Italian officers as they recounted experiences of the great war in the dining room of the Army and Navy Club yesterday at luncheon, a little group of Indian war veterans, sur- vivors of Troops D, H and K, 7th United States Cavalry, part of the forces led by Maj. Gen. George A. Custer when he made his last stand at the battle of the Little Big Horn, [Column 3] sat by themselves and re[t]old again the harrowing tale of June 25, 1876. Guests of Gen. E. S. Godfrey, who led the medal of honor m[-]n in Fri- day's funeral procession, a[page torn] who as Lieut. Godfrey commanded [Page torn] Troop in that campaign, the six [page torn]er griz- zled fighters, all now liv[page torn] at the Soldiers' Home in this city, [page torn] nsacked their brains to recall to e[page torn]h other many little incidents of t[page torn] heart breaking battle. These troops were thre[page torn]of four [Column 4] that made up the battalion command- ed by Capt. Benteen, and separated from Maj. Reno's battalion at a trib- utary of the Little Big Horn, now called 'Sun Dance." Custer's column followed Reno's closely, bearing to the right and rear. Benteen's squad- ron was ordered to the left and front, to a line of big bluffs about three or four miles distant. Obstacles, how- ever, threw the squadron by degrees to the right until it came in sight of and not more than a mile from the Indian trail followed by Custer. Heard Cheering and Shots. "During this march on the left we could see occasionally the squadron under Custer," said Gen. Godfrey to- day," distinguishable by the troops mounted on gray horses, marching at a rapid gait. Two or three times we [Column 5] heard loud cheering and also some few shots, but the occasion of these demostrations is not known." "That's when we came to that water hole, chief," spoke up Henry Mechling, blacksmith of Troop K. "Yes," replied Gen. Godfrey, "with a stream of water at its source. It was there that Benteen halted the battalion." "And remember, general, how im- patient Capt. Wier of D troop became at us watering the horses," said Trooper Matin McCue, as Gen. God- frey lit his cigar. "You're right, Martin," replied the commander, "and he started off with his troop, taking the advance, where- as his place in column was second. But we were right on behind him and soon coupled up." "And recollect that burning tepee we passed right then and found the [Column 6] [The right of the page is slightly faded, making some letters illegible] body of that old warrior who we al[-] allowed had been killed in the bat- tle with Crook's troops a few day[-] before?" asked Private Patrick Coco- ran, who had kept quiet until now. Interest Never Lags. And so it went all through the luncheon, first one and then the othe[-] would recall some incident, refres[-] the others, and when the representa- tive of The Star left the club the old fellows were still there rehashing the campaign that stirred the whole nation at the time, and is still one of the most ineresting stories of all American expeditions. The men he invited to luncheon yesterday were Sergt. Fremont Kipp Troop D; Sergt. John Fox, Troop D Henry Mechlin, Troop H, and Patrick Cocoran, Martin McCue and John Sinkens, all of Troop K, 7th Cavalry, U. S. A. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p037.jpg) From Peter Thompson To Rapid City, S. D. November 16 1921 Mr W. M Camp 7740 union Auvune Chicago ill Dear sir i called you up By Telleph on Sundy the 13 but i was informed that you was not at Home i Went to Washington D.C to atend funeral of unknone Dead on Sat the 12 some of the medal of Honor Men Beloning to the 7 cav Precipated in a BanLuit Namley General Geodfrey (Pat Cocaran) (Fremont Kipp) (Henry W.B. Mechling) (John Fox) (John sinkens) (Martin Mcier) Peter Thompson Thoes inside of lines are at the solders Home i also saw Magor tillford A ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p038.jpg) cousin to Burnted Foot Tillford i understan that Geodfrey is thinking of Publishing A Book what on i dont know Magor tillford says that you Have the facts conerning custer fight where it is about Right me i will not aske you concerning as to wheather you are Going to Publish articals for there is several things in Writing busness to be conciderd. me and my Dauigher went to the crow agency on the 25 June the 45 year since the Battle an ordely and A Good natured Geathering it was i remain ame Respectivly submited Peter Thompson Alzada Montana ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p039.jpg) 7740 Union Ave., Nov 19, 1921 Mr. Fremont Kipp, Soldiers' Home, Box 1907, Washington, D.C. Friend Kipp:-- Since I wrote you yesterday I have received a letter from Peter Thompson, from Rapid City, telling me all about being in Washington and mentioning the names of you an Fox, Mechling and others whom he met there, including Gen. Godfrey. You may, therefore, rest assured that you met Peter Thompson, the genuine survivor of the battle of the Little Big- horn. Thompson writes me that [illegible deletion] he heard from some of you that Gen. Godfrey was thinking of writing a book. Do you know anything about this? and what will be the subject of the book? Or did Thompson merely hear about the pamphlet on the Battle of the Little Bighorn that Gen Godfrey got up for Mrs. Custer last summer, a copy of which you have? With best regards, I remain Yours sincerely, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p040.jpg) SB-10 Sept. 19, 1921. To DISTRIBUTORS and DEALERS: Here's the most important announcement the REO factory ever made. 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They stood about 1½ miles back from the river, higher than the level of the river bottom, and there is now, and probably was then, a good deal of heavy timber aronnd the place. There is quite a little hill to the east of the spot, only a few hundred feet distant, and heavy timber which makes a sort of semicircle around to the southwest of the ruins. As I recall the surroundings since my visit there two years ago, there is a clear view from the walls in a direct line southward to the river, but not either to the southeast or the southwest, so that, one passings along the river bottom would not be likely to get a view of the site of the Walls until right opposite them, or, say, directly south of them. Had the party passed this vicinity in the night or very early in the morning, or on a stormy day, they might easily have missed seeing the walls of the structure. It stood within 50 feet of a stream of clear monntain water--a stream 10 or 12 feet wide and knee deep, so is is reason ably supposable that the view of the spot may have been shut off by timber. Last May I had to go to Oklahoma on business, and while there I visited the Kiowas and Comanches at Ft. Sill and for a days drive to the west of there. All of the old people with whom I talked were familiar with the locality of the Adobe Walls, and an intelligent old Kiowa was able to tell me something about the origin of the building. He was so ac- curate in matters of another character that we discussed that I took him for a man who knew what he was talking about. This man, who said he was 74 years old, said he saw the Walls when he was about 12 years old, and played around them. He said he remembered distinctly that at that time the walls were standing full height, but that the roof had fallen in. If he was correct then that was the condition of things in 1859. Unless the roof had been destroyed by human agency, the building must have been standing there quite a long time before 1859. The timber there is cottonwood, and it might be supposed that poles and beams of such wood would not rot down sooner than 15 or 20 years. Your impression that the building was erected in the early '40s seems to me to be reasonable enough. As to the origin of the building he said it was well understood, among the old people when he was a boy, that the building was erected by Americans, for a trading post. I took pains to ask him if the builders ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p042.jpg) September 19, 1921. TO REO DISTRIBUTORS AND DEALERS:- Enclosed herewith are proof Sheets showing copy for newspaper advertisements. One of them is a Speed Wagon advertisement and the other is a Sedan advertisement. Each ad is worked into two different sizes. 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We have also sent them mats of the small illustrations to appear in the square space at the bottom of the ad. All that is nec- essary for you to do is to order the space and give the proof sheet to your newspaper to set up the copy. If you have failed to receive the mats sent you, please to write us to send you mats of borders. Where newspapers cannot use mats they can set up the copy in an ad in some way that will make good display. Very truly yours, REO MOTOR CAR COMPANY McC:JEH Advertising Department. Encl. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p043.jpg) might not have been Mexicans, and he replied emphatically in the negative. He repeated that the builders were Americans well known to his people at the time. The interpreter seemed not able to get anything more definite from him as to the identity of these Americam traders, but from the fact that they were well known to the Indians of that part of the country they could hardly have any other than Bent and St. Vrain. George Bent told me, without any hesitation, eight or ten years ago, that his father built Adobe Walls. He seemed to be entirely familiar with that matter. I, now regret that it did not then occur to me to go into particulars with him, for he died three years ago. I am greatly pleased that this matter has come up again with us, and hope that we may later run onto further clues. Yours truly ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p044.jpg) FROM REO MOTOR CAR COMPANY. LANSING, MICHIGAN. ALL THE COMFORTS OF HOME IN THIS MAN'S PERIPATETIC HOUSE E. J. Carmichael of the Silver Springs Transportation Co., of Ocala, Florida was ordered to Arizona by his physician. Plently of fresh air was prescribed along with the transfer of headquarters. Carmichael has a comfortable home in Ocala and disliked the idea of giving it up. He also disliked a long train trip. So he rigged up a house on a Reo Speed Wagon he owned and is taking all the comforts of his home along with him, is getting the fresh air, and escapes the train riding. He expects to reach his destination early in September, rather a long time perhaps but he is in no hurry and whenever he finds a good camping place along the road he stays there until he gets ready to move. The moving house of this tourist, is equipped with all modern con- veniences of the stationary domicile of modern type having a combinat- ion folding bed and wardrobe, eight lockers for linens, a kitchen cabinet, a stationary wash stand, shower bath, ice box, four folding chairs, one folding lounge chair, a willow rocking chair, a straight back willow chair, a two burner gas stove, a 40 gallon water tank, with faucets, and in fact it contains everything necessary for comfort. Mr. Carmichael states they have passed through Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana, enroute to the arid state of Arizona with- out having any engine trouble, with their home. He adds that the reason he selected a Reo Speed Wagon for touring purposes was because of the comfort it afforded together with the fact that touring car speed is always available. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p045.jpg) Nov. 20, 1921 Sunday morning My Dear Mr Camp Just received your letter. I am going Tuesday morning to Hollis Long Island New York to viset at the home of the oldest Daughter of my Sister. my Sister being there at this time will be there one week. Yes General Seen S Scott seen Peter Thompson I did not see the General Speak to him as at that Thompson was talking to me. I do not know if Sctt Scott and Godfrey talked of Peter or not. yesterday I met a Patrick Brady who joined the Regiment at Peas Bottom Coming up on a Boat with 150 recrutes Capt Hale being in Charge of recrutes Brady remembers Thompson and Watson well, and say he always heard they were with the pack Train and never heard of any story of their being Seperated from the Same or from Reno after Pack ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p046.jpg) train Camp up to Reno Hill. Brady states that after the fight at diffirent places there was Eleven men left living and he thinks if Thompson story were true he would have heared of it. I am not sure if Brady said he joined us at Peas Bottom or at mouth of the Rosebud that being Some weeks after the fight Brady Statement is hearsay but Mechling and I think he is right. Mechling and I viseted W J Baily and there is no doubt in our mind he was just as he says Enlisted as a Indian Scout the same as other Indians were and was with Reno in the Bottom. When I repeated Thompson Statment to him about his Thompson being some 300 yards from Custer when he was killed and then trying to get in the village getting within 75 yds of nearest Teepes and to center of River when they were Discovered and driven back. Mr Baily became very mad saying Thompson was a G—D— liar that with all that ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p047.jpg) hord of mounted Indians it would not be possible for him and Watson to get away Mr Baily becoming so mad that Mrs Baily had to quiet the old man down Mechling and I beleive Thompson and Watson were with Pack Train and that he is lying when C Troop was going toward the Battle there must have been some officer Nom-Com-officer in the rear to prevent men from falling out as Thompson says they did a whole set of fours falling out near the lone Teepe and two men taking the back trail is unbelivable I think he wants to be Considered the last man that seen Custer alive. Gen Godfrey tells me that a man by the name of Henry P Jones who joined I Troop the fall of 1873 at Fort Totton was in the Pack Train after the fight Transfering to a Troop and was in the Nez Perce fight at Bear Paw his address is Gen Delivery Washington D.C. who is now 77 years old over ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p048.jpg) Godfrey received a letter from him dated november 9th Godfrey sent the letter to me but as Michling has it today I am not able to quote from it but I think he is Sraight. and was there with Pack Train I may see Gen Godfrey while in New York and have another talk with him the General was quick to correct the statement of the Star about him being the Host at Army and Navy Club and Stated that he he did not know who made the mistake he as he remembered telling Col. Merril that we of the home were the Hosts as soon as I read the star I knew the General would corriect ut when I get in touch with Jones will let you know the results of our talk with him your truly Fremont Kipp ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p049.jpg) n.d. Dear M Camp i sent mr Honsin your letter and supposed that [---]you would Communicate with him as i have nothing to do with the writing of any Buck m Honsin has entire Chose of it I Tunshed the information i was out to Dinner Firday with Capt Dale and [---]d affiers and shared him your Letters and he told me about what to say to you he trated m nice he is a gentlmen very Respectfully Grant P Marsh P S Mr Camp Dont Forget about the Painting it would Be the Best Drawing Card in the united States G P M ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p050.jpg) W M Camp, 7740 Union Ave. Orange. Man. Nov 28th 1921. Chicago. Ill. It is rather late in the day to acknowledge your kind reply of March 26th 1921. if it had been of any importance to you I would not have been quilty of such a delay. I have not published my story yet, and so far as means to do so is concerned, there is not much of a prospect ahead. I keep at it however adding a little but now and then and rewriting some parts. A Mr Brininstool, of Los Angeles. Cal. has been most urgent in his desire that "I loan him my Mrs." but it is very doubtful if he ever gets it. my best thought, at present, is to send it to the Montana Historical Society in the hope that they will publish it in a Vol. of their Proceedings and, if I am alive, give me a copy. It is possible perhaps that some magazine might use it but I have little knowledge of such matters or how to find them. I have just been informed that Sergt. Ryan of West Newton, Mass has written up his experiences in the battle of the Little-Big-Horn and that it is to be published as a serial in the Hardin Tribune. Hardin Mont. Among those who were wounded in that affair was one Peter Thompson of C Troop. I located him at last and wishing to get the full names of such members of C Troop as he might recall wrote him to that effect, and in my letter assumed that his being with Reno was due to his being detailed with the Pack Train. After nearly a year I had a letter from him, and the statement he makes is ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p051.jpg) so strange to me, that I am sending the letter with this for your consideration. personally I cannot accept it as a fact, only that he was in the fight up on the bluffs and wounded. please return the letter, with such comments as you deem proper. I am not in a position to swear that none of Custers men tried to get away, as did the Crow Scouts, but I have my doubts about this story. I have learned, or at least been told within a few days, that Peter Thompson aforesaid had "passed over." A friend at Hardin has sent me a Post Card Picture of the new monument, may I ask if you was out with Gen. Godfrey, G B Grimwell, and others a few years ago when they rode over the trail from the yellowstone to the battlefield, and if so do you recall or know if any pictures were taken along the Rosebud. especially of the locality of the first camp, made by Custer about 12 miles above the mouth. I want one very much indeed. Wishing you all the conpliments of the coming season, and hoping to live until your book is published I am very Sincerely yours. Wm O Taylor. 34 Mechanic St. Orange. Mass. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p052.jpg) Dec 1st 21 My Dear Friend Camp Tuesday morning Nov 22nd I left for a weeks viset at New York City. getting home late the evening Nov 29th. as a results I did not get your letter until the morning of the 30th sorry to miss seeing you I feel sure you are right about Peter Thompson being at the Big horn fight. but as it was some little trouble to learn a new man to Pack a mule useing the Diamond Hitch I Can not understand why a man should be learned and then releived the last Day of a 4 day trip and as the officers of the 7th Cav would likly require good reasons before substituting two green men in place of Thompson and Watson just going into Battle and then the Idea of them concealing the fact that they had seen Custer and his men wiped out for I think it more likly they had strayed of from the Pack Train as in that case they might think they had something to cover up I have asked Gen. Godfrey ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p053.jpg) to find out from Gen Edgerly what part of the field he saw the two men when he took a shot at them. after having a rather hard days work and with a number of mules mireing down at the water Hole they may have been pretty tired and droped Some distance behind and come to Reno Hill for for sometime after the Pack Train. They may have not followed the trail after Sighting the Troops on Renos Hill and aproached the hill from a slitly different direction than the Pack Train did. and Brady of C Troop who joined us on the Yellowstone when Capt Hale came up insists that one Nomcommissiond officer and 6 pvts of C Troop who were with the Pack Train were all that was lift of C Troop. now if Thompson and Watson were with the Troop that day there Should have been Eight pvts instead of six left on Renos Hill. from the fact that he showed you a place two miles from Custer and told us 300 yds I think in afew years more he will be claiming he was along side of Custer when he was killed. yours Truly Fremont Kipp ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p054.jpg) December 10, 1921. Mr George L. Boyle, American National Bank Bldg., Washington, D. C. My Dear Mr. Boyle: I have received your three letters of the 5th and 7th insts. I am enclosing herewith copies of telegram and two letters which Mr. Stephens wrote me in reply to my telegram asking whether or not his con- trol system conformed to paragraph three of the United States Railroad Administration requisites. I thank you for the copy of Mr. Borland's memorandum of October 15th reporting operating percentages of the Miller, Regan and American train control systems. It is true that I did have a copy of this report of Mr. Borland, but I am not now able to find it and I am under the impression that either I must have left it in your office, along with the bundle of documents with which you supplied me the first day I called at your off- ice, or it must have been stolen from me on the street car at the time I lost the draft of the order. The bundle of documents referred to was left in your office wrapped up in heavy wrapping paper at your left hand as you sit at your desk. Regarding the map of the United States showing location of accidents, I now recall that you had one of these in Judge McChord's office on Sunday when I met you and Colonel Brown . However, I did not bring either this or any other copy of the map to Chicago with me. I looked for it that Sunday evening (December 4th) when I took up my papers but did not find it, and thought that you must have taken it As for the proposed association of proprietors of train control appli- ances, it seems to me that such will be very much needed very soon after the order to the railroads will have been issued. I can well imagine that a number of questions pertaining to requisites, and which cannot now be foreseen, will be raised either by the railroads or by the government, and that it will be to the advantage of all of the train control companies to combine their interests in the solution or disposition of such questions. In talking over this matter with Mr. Shaver yesterday we concluded that the most satisfactory way of starting such an association would be for the train control companies now most intimately concerned with control installations to organize, somewhat exclusively: say that the Regan, the American, the Miller and the Shadle, all of whom have working installations in regular service on the railroads, together with the Sprague people, and perhaps Finnegan, as representing a number of fundamental patents for in- ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p055.jpg) duction systems, and also the Bostwick concern which has an installation on the Southern Pacific road, - say that these six or seven companies get together, make such organization as they think proper, and then take up for consideration and decide whether additions to the membership will be sought from only such companies as do actually make installations, or whether any and all who have advanced as far as the blueprint stage may be taken in. It seems to me that conflicting interests, loss of time and wasted effort might result from trying to combine those connected with practical installations with the theoretical class, all at the start. Washington would probably be the most desirable headquarters for such an association, and it would seem to me that in addition to looking after thise engineering class the association should organize a depart- ment to keep tab on congressional activities in this direction, as well as take care of a reasonable amount of publicity. I agree with you that it would seem logical for Mr. Regan to take the lead in organizing this association. I think you are not just quite fair in your interpretation of the statement on the last page of my pamphlet on "The Need of Automatic Train Control" to the effect that I "hinted at the impracticability at this time of espousing the cause of train control". At the time I wrote the pamphlet I had no doubt about the practicability of speed control, but railway managements were then magnifying the difficulties of speed con- trol, which led me to take the ground that, in order to get the thing started a beginning might be made with automatic train stops which, in any case, could be used without going further. It was in my mind that the delays which would result from the use of the automatic stop alone in congested territory would lead to the addition of speed control later on. <, as a matter of course. Now that practical speed control is a demonstrated fact the situation is somewhat different.> I think it rather unsatisfactory, if not unfortunate, that the words "train control", in Section 26 of the law are now being interpreted to mean only speed control, for the automatic train stop is just as much a part of train control as is the feature of speed control. I know that when the law was passed "train control" was intended to mean either train stop or speed control, or both of them combined, and you will find that even the learned body known as the Joint Committee has so interpreted these terms down to the present day. I hope you will keep me informed of the development of this matter before the I.C.C. I shall be glad to learn, at your earliest convenience, when it is intended to bring the specifications and order up for the ap- proval of the whole Commission, and about when you think the order will be issued to the railroads. I am writing a letter to Commissioners McChord and Esch suggesting some slight revision of the order and memorandum, one of these being a correction of typographical error, and I enclose copy of the same to you. Yours truly, WMC-S. Editior ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F35_B2_F13_p056.jpg) Brookline Mass Dec 22/21 Mr Camp Dear Sir: The enclosed I ask on copy of the Adjutant Generals (Sec. of War) decision on the cases of Hoover & Littmann explains itself. I am sorry for these brave men but nothing except an Act of Congress can help them as I understand the case and that might be a long haul Medals of honor come easier these days. In older time we did not know such things and, therefore good men were not recommended Yours William P Bisbee Bisbee ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p001.jpg) 1/3/22 My Dear Friend Camp glad to learne you are comeing to Washington this month. Henry P Jones called on me about 2 weeks ago and I made up my mind he was a survivor allright. he lives near Arlington Past off address I believe is Roslin Va I will get his address so I will be sure I am right and drop him a line and try and have him meet you. he tells me there is a John Dolan of M M Troop 7 Cav lives near him. also that Joe Kratectmeyer Kretchmeyer that used to I M Bells Striker or dog rober lives near the home here. as soon as Mechlin get gets home from his leave of absence we will look Kretchmeyer up Jones says it is hard to get him to talk that he just grunts in his German way there is an old Soldier that used to keep a Saloon in Bismark by the name of Geo Elder who I know well is living near near him. Godfrey sent to me a X mas card to the 7 Cav. Bunch at the Home ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p002.jpg) the old boys were pleased to be remembered by the old General. I am now in Ward A. it is at the Extreme Southern part of Hospt on ground floor and is a Convalesent ward so I can come and go about as I please. and can have visitors all day long there will be no trouble about seeing Brady as he does not go out much he is in the Sherman building Gen Scott told the day we were at the A & N Club that Major Mclaughlin the old Indian agent lives in this City. I will try and locate him from the City directory if I Can. I am feeling fine Sleeping 10 hours a night. and will be able to put in Some time with you when you are here Yours Truly F Kipp ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p003.jpg) Pine Ridge, So. Dak. January 13, 1922. Dear Mr. Camp: I was just talking to a friend of mine who recently returned from Chicago where he said he met you, and he said you told him you had not heard from me for some little time. This man was C. A. Bates. I am writing to let you lnow that I am all right and will be glad to see you if you make a trip to Pine Ridge this coming summer. There isn't much to write about but we can, as usual find a lot to talk about if you come and I enjoy your visits more than any I have. With my best regards, and hoping to see you soon, I am, Sincerely, William Garnett ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p004.jpg) Halstead Kansas 16 January 1922 [The following handwritten diagnally below the date] answered 3-30-22 My Dear Mr Camp 7740 Union avane Chicago I received your kind letter in Due time I am very sorow you went to so much Trouble for sometin That Cant be allowd Captain Powell Coud have Done This If he had Been a gent- leman. But let it gow. you had Better let me Pay you for your Trouble. I have Been in The best of health all the Time, Just Save $10000 to near East Releif. Last summer I gave $150.00 to China Relief. of Course This is not all smaller amounts at Diferent Times to near Relief work. I hope They will get enough to keep alive ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p005.jpg) have you heard any Thing more a bout Mr Littman That is Two bad he went to Germany and had to Die. have I got any thing besides Gen Bussbee Letter That you Want Hoping you and yours is All Well I remain as ever yours John M Hoover ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p006.jpg) 1/18/22 Friend Camp I am now in the Scott Bldy Room 22 if this gets to you it might be worth while for you to come by way of Indianapolis Ind. there is a D Troop man by name of Jacob Hetter at 1842 N Alabami St that City who was in Cleveland O on Jan 28th he was looking for old comrads and put a peice in the Cleveland Plaine Dealer containing my name and my Niece got in touch with him. I do not know if he has gone home yet or not. I remember him well and will write him tomorrow I wrote Jones a few days ago. hoping to see you I am your Truly Fremont Kipp Hetter also lives part of the time on a farm 12 miles from Greenwich, Ohio ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p007.jpg) Ind, Indianapolis ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p008.jpg) M. L. Wilson January 20, 1922 Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Ill. Dear Mr. Camp: Am glad to get your letter of December 29th. I note you received the pioneer edition of the Forsyth Times-Journal. The story of the Bozeman expedition which they printed was copied verbatum from "The Chronicles of the Yellowstone". The editor, I suppose, in the hurry of a country newspaper shop, neglected to make the proper mention of this. I was up at Harlem this fall and had a visit with Mr. Hart, who was, I believe, Herendeen's closest friend. He told me that they were surprised when they went to Herendeen's cabin after he was buried to find such a small amount of stuff in it. Should not Herendeen be buried on the Custer Battlefield, and inasmuch as he was not an enlisted soldier would we have to get a special order from the War Department, permitting him to be buried there? Also, would the War Department pay the expense of the disinterment and transporta- tion? If not, I believe it would be possible to collect a little jackpot around Harlem and some of the other places in the state. I have been out of the state, as you perhaps know, for the past two summers and I do not know whether you got those markers up on the battle of the Rosebud and on upper Powder River or not. When I left as I recall in 1919 I made some arrangements with county agents about them but I recall of doing nothing further. We now have a county agent in Big Horn county and if you did not get the markers out for the battle of the Rosebud I am sure I can have this looked after for you. You perhaps know that they have struck a fairly heavy flow of oil near St. Xavier and there is a fair prospect now that the Burlington will build a railroad up the river to the mouth of the canyon. At least this is the talk in Hardin. I suppose there is undoubtedly a good deal of Commercial Club boost behind this but one of the most influential business men there told me if this Soap Creek region proves to be a good oil field undoubtedly a good road will be built. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p009.jpg) -W.M.Camp If I am going to be in the state next summer and you are coming out I should like to make a deal with you to start in on the Bozeman Trail at the Montana line and follow it across to the Yellowstone. This must be done soon and I think I get the money for permanent markers where the Trail crosses the divides and important streams. The most important thing however I want to bring up in this letter has to do with our proposal of taking in the whole of the battle- field of the Little Big Horn. You remember perhaps we had a mem- [unreadable line due to folded or torn paper] asking that the whole of the battlefield be set aside, that a road be constructed from the Reno-Benteen end to the Custer end with proper markers, etc., so that it would be comparable to the battle- fields of the Civil War. Nothing ever came of this because we declared war on Germany very shortly after our memorial got to Washington. We have the support, of course, of the Montana dele- gation on it and I see no reason why it would not go through if we did a little prodding on it. It is unfortunate that there is no historical society in Montana and there probably will be none un- til most of the pioneers are dead, because they seem to vigorously object to any "interference" by the younger element. However, I think we can get enough people interested to stir up some inter- est in the thing and get somewhere. What suggestions have you to make should be get behind it as a state and do you think it ad- visable for you to bring this up at the next meeting of the Society of Indian Wars? I think of nothing new which would be of interest to you which has developed since you were last here. Very truly yours, M.L Wilson MLW-C ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p010.jpg) April 11, 1922. Mr. W. M. Camp Ebbitt House Washington, D. C. My dear Mr. Camp: Your interesting letter of March 29th, and an envelope which con- tained your interesting paper on automatic control of railroad trains, came in due season; and I read both of them with great pleasure. I con- clude that the control of the trains is something that is coming, though like many other things, it may be a little slow. I am glad to have you recall to my mind the details of the visit to the site of the wagon box fight with Hoover. I remember, as I told you before, the site of the fight that had been already marked; and I remember also that Hoover's identification of the spot was very close to this. We went also to a rather distant locality which you told me had been identi- fied by somebody else. This no doubt was the Gibson site. Hoover's selection of the place was less than a stone's throw from the Littmann site. I should think it would be well worth while to get Little Wolf, Braided Locks, and any other men on the Tongue River Reservation that you could get hold of, and take them over to the site of this fight. These Indians, you see, are not like the white men who pass through a country or see it for a few times during a season. The Indians know most of the localities in the country where they ranged, just about as well as you know the nearest corner of your street. All the different landmarks in particular places are absolutely familiar to them, and they do not have to walk about and consider and look at the mountains and back and fill before making up their minds that probably a certain thing took place here. The Indians know this region as well as, or better than, you know your own farm. If you could take some of the men who were on the ground, with a good ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p011.jpg) Mr. W. M. C. -2. interpreter - as Willis Rowland - over to this place, I believe you would get testimony of the very highest value. I do not know where Braided Locks now lives, nor even if he is still alive; but Young Little Wolf, as you know, is eight or ten miles above Busby, and so that much nearer to Sheri- dan. I have an idea that you could take these men over, go over the ground with them, and get them back to their place in a couple of days, if you had your automobile with you. If you have not your automobile, you could perhaps make a bargain with Hogan; or you could get some of these chaps in Sheridan that have automobiles, who might help you out. I have been greatly saddened for the last day or two by news of the death of Howard Eaton who, it is said, died April 5th in Sheridan, at the hospital, after an operation for appendicitis. I presume you knew him, but I do not know how well. His death is a grievous loss. If you see Col. McLaughlin in Washington, give him my cordial regards. It is not likely that I shall be down there for two or three weeks, though I want to visit the Capital before the weather gets warm. Let me hear from you as you can; and I should greatly like to be informed of the results of the hearing before the Interstate Commerce Com- mission if I can. Yours sincerely W. Bird Grimwell ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p012.jpg) Soldiers Home, Calif. April I0 I922 W.M.Camp, Dear Sir; I have some recent letters from Comrade J.H. Wooley of our old Troop "M" 7th U.S. Cav. His address is Penacook, New Hampshire. If you were one of us, I would be glad to correspond with you. I and he were both at the fight on the Washita, Nov 27th I868. I dont recall that you were one of our Troop at that date, but I am very forgetful these latter days. There was a Camp in my Co in the volunteers of the Civil war. He was from western North Carolina. He was in this "Home" for a time. I guess Wooley has seen your inquiry in the Tribune and will be ahead of me in writing to you. He can put you on track of 2 or 3 others of our old Co. yours truly, J.C.Pickens, Soldiers Home, California. [The following handwritten at the bottom of the page] I have a daughter in your city, and grandchildren ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p013.jpg) [Two stamps in the top right corner, one with the words "SOLDIERS HOME MAY 11 1 PM CALIF"] [The following a stamp in the middle of the page] THIS SIDE OF CARD IS FOR ADDRESS Mr W. M. CAMP 7740 UNION AVE. Chicago, Illinios. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p014.jpg) Miles City Mont Mar 30th 1922 Dear Mr Camp Chicago Ill as I Have not Heard from you for some Time Thought i Had Better Write as i Would like To aske you about When you Expect To Have your Book out i am in The Best of Health But am getting to The age That it is a guess Wether or not i Will live To see it and i Have Planed so much on it. Best Wishes. J M Sipes P. S. i may Be in Chicago in May or June ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p015.jpg) [The following written under the address] accounts of Lt. James Bradley May 30th 22 Mr W M Camp 7740 Union Ave Chicago My dear Camp In going through my desk I have some old clippings that may be of interest & some asstne to you hence I am inclosing them for your use—we are having much rain here this Season & I will say it was needed & is a boon with kind regards I am yours truly Dan H Bowman P.S. I hope I dont worry you with this stuff ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p016.jpg) June 6, 1922. Mr. W. M. Camp 7740 Union Avenue Chicago, Ill. Dear Mr. Camp: Your letter of June 1st is received and I am very glad to hear from you. I had hoped that we might have seen you during the winter but, since that has not happened, I am still hoping that I may get out as far west this summer as Eastern Nebraska, and may catch you as I pass through Chicago. The so-called Double Trophy Roster is referred to in a paragraph on p. 353 of "The Fighting Cheyennes," and it is indexed under the name White, John J. Of course I do not know how the book was lost by Sergt. Brown, but it must have been lost to get into High Bear's possession. W. O. Taylor sent me a roster of G Troop, 7th Cavalry, June 25, 1876, at 10:30 A. M. He mentions there Sergt. Brown, but says nothing about his being killed or wounded. I sympathize with you in your inability to get out West this summer. As you say, the old men who took part in the wars between 1870 and 1880 are rapidly passing away, and with them pass the only original sources of information about those times. Pretty much all the old Northern Cheyennes have gone, though there are still left a few who were young men and active fighters in 1876. I hope with all my heart that before I pass away from these scenes you may get your book in type; but what you say does not give me much en- couragement on this point. I am hoping to get my big Cheyenne book more or less ready for the printer before this summer is over; and if I do that I shall certainly not get away from here for any extended trip. Let me hear from you as you can, and I hope that I may see you before too long. Yours sincerely W. Bird Grimnell ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p017.jpg) W W Camp. 7740 Union Ave. Chicago, Ill. [The following written in the top right corner] 34 Mechanir St Orange. Mass. July 9th 1922. Dear Sir. Thanking you for yours of the 5th I will say that I have just written to Kansas City in hopes of finding Mr Goldin. if I can reach him he ought to be able to give the first names of some, if not most of his comrades of G Troop in June 1876. That is about all I expect from him. His story, as I have seen it, does not appeal to me as being strictly correct, there are many others that do not. a Boston man poper of this date has one, a story told by a man named Russell, who met Custer at Fort Robinson, and tells how Sitting Bull tried to have a lariet thrown over Custer, take him and Tom prisoners and hold them for ransom. What wont some one say next.? As for my Book I hardly know what to say. I wish it was done, but there is so very much that might be learned that I find it hard to stop I have about 200 pages of mess done, as I thought, but have started to rewrite some of it. The No. Dak. Historical Soc. has offered to publish it giving me a few copies in return, but I dont know what to do. Only this, if it is published in my life time you will get a copy, without price. I suppose you have read the "Aribara Narrative" in Vol [illegible deletion] of the N D His. Soc. published about 1920. Just got a copy, clears up some things to my way of thinking, but I am taking up to much of your time, good luck to you always. Sincerely W O Taylor Orange. Mass Wm O. Taylor A E [The following written diagnally in the bottom left corner] Answered 7/12/22 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p018.jpg) July 11, 1922. Mr. W. M. Camp 7740 Union Avenue Chicago, Illinois My dear Mr. Camp: You and I feel precisely alike about Mr. Condit. He is a splendid man, and nothing that will befall him can change his character. I am glad to answer, so far as I can, your questions about the big Cheyenne book. This is the substance of the material that I have been gathering about the Cheyennes for the last thirty years and, when you ask about its scope, I may reply that it will cover all that I know about the Cheyennes, except their oral literature. The myths, folk tales, animal stories, and so on, will have to go into a book by themselves if they ever see the light. The big Cheyenne book, so-called, contains all that I know about the history, habits, and customs of these excellent people. It hasn't gone yet to a publisher, and of course may not find one in my time. Yet I think it will. I suppose the book will make a couple of fat volumes; but even about that I do not know. I have three or four times as many pictures as can be used in it. On the other hand, I hope I am not like your judge in Colorado, who said that he was going to write a thorough-going history of the Sioux. I do not profess that my Cheyenne story will be thorough-going at all, but it will contain pretty much all I know. I do not know the Judge Ricker, or Richter, of whom you speak, and do not think that I ever heard of him. There was a Ricker who, in the late '80s, went down with C. J. Jones when he was catching buffalo calves; but I never heard that he was a writer. He was rather an illustrator - I would not say an artist. As you say, very few people appreciate the grind of getting to- gether historical matter in a conscientious way. The main thing, I sup- pose, is to use your nights and Sundays getting your stuff down on paper ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p019.jpg) Mr. W. M. C. -2. as far as possible in an orderly manner. You have a lot of time left in which to get your material in shape; but, on the other hand, you must have a good part of the stuff gathered from eye witnesses already among your notes. I wish that I might see your book, but you have a very large subject on your hands. I think I told you that I had turned in my little story about the Medicine Wheel, and sent in the cuts. The editor professes himself much pleased with the article. The Anthropologist has just changed its printers, and the new printers are profuse in promises of the good work they are going to do. Just what will happen we cannot say. It is quite certain that the story will not make its appearance before some time in the autumn. I wish you would let me know whether you expect to be in Chicago during the summer or not. There is always a possibility that I may get out there, and of course it would be pleasant for me if I could see you. Yours sincerely W. Bird Grinnell ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p020.jpg) W M Camp. 7740 Union Ave. Chicago. Ill Orange. Mass. July 20th 1922. Dear Mr Camp. Queer is it not how some things turn out, I followed your hint as to Goldin's last known address and wrote to the Secretary of the Y.M.C.A at Kansas City, stating my wish, Friday morning June 1[-]th brought your own interesting letter and in the afternoon came a long letter from Mr Goldin. quick work I think. I have often wished that you and I had become aquainted when you were first interested in the Little Big Horn affair, it might have been of advantage to both of us, My intrest started the 25th of June, 1876. and continues yet. I have, as well as yourself, a great desire to see as truthful and compleet a story of that memorable campaign published as may be possible at this late day. The men who knew of what they done, saw, and believed with good reasons, to have occurred, have largely passed away, but their place's seemed to have been filled with a lot of Fakiers. I have one [-]oop Book that is devoted to their stories and nothing else, A lot of them get by me however. If some one as deeply interested as you and I had tackeled the question right after the return of the expedition, or within a year or so much more of the true details would be known. Now for your question, I, William Othniel Taylor enlisted at Troy. N.Y. Jan 17th 1872, was assigned to Troop M, 7th Cavalry, in which I served until late in 1875 when I sought and obtained a Transfer to A Troop, of the same regiment in which was my Brothers brothers-in-law, General Alcott, now of Toronto, Canada. I was discharged at Fort Rice, Dak, Jan 17th 1877, having served my full period of five years, was out on the Yellowstone Expedition of 1873. Black Hills in 1874, Scouting around in 1875, and to the Little Big Horn in 1876. I find in some of my notes that there was in G Troop some time during my enlistment one Walter C Taylor, am not postive about the C, but that is the way I have it, Goldin says "Taylor was the Company Blacksmith." I shall write Goldin in a few days and will send you the result when he answeres. meantime I will send you a copy of the Roster of G Troop as I now have it, part of it is taken over ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p021.jpg) from Grinnells "Double Roster Book" of which you have probably seen or heard of. so I will not go into the details except to say that there may be some mistake in the spelling of the name, it would not be strange if there was considering what the book has been through, and perhaps the indifference of the copiest. I am also enclosing that fake story, as I call it, of Russells, the pictures are, well I wont say what, Lord us, as John Ryan has some times said to me "I begin to think that I never was in that affair." A lady at Lame Deer, Mass has sent me a picture of the "Crows Nest," where Custer, Varnum and others went up to observe the valley beyong. it look all right, but I have no knowledge if it is correct or not, am thinking of sending it to Varnum to see if he recalls the place, as it appears to day. Pray excuse this "long winded" letter from your Sincerely W. O. Taylor. 34 Mechanic St. Orange Mass ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p022.jpg) W M Camp. 7740 Union Ave. Orange Mass. Chicago. Ill. July 28th 1922. Dear Sir. Have just heard from Goldin and enclose his letter, it may interest you and may not, I do not expect it will add much to your knowledge for I suppose you must have met him and got all he could tell. But it is well to check up things from any source. Please return his letter as soon as you are done with it for I want to query him some more. Two of the names he gives I am doubtful about. Vig Lathman and Weiss, ? did he mean Norman, or Herman, as their name, I assume it was intended Herman. He says it was Trumpeter Dose killed with Custer instead of Vose, as papers gave it. Sincerely yours WC Taylor, Orange Mass ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p023.jpg) W M Camp. 7740 Union Ave. Chicago. Ill [The following written in the top right corner] Orange Mass. Aug 7th 1922 Dear Sir In reply to yours of July 29th many thanks for the names sent, every single one is a source of satisfaction to me. The address wanted is Samuel Alcott, 419 Shaw St. Torento, Canada. he owes me a letter now but he is not much given to letter writing, his sister, my brothers wife, has not had a letter from him for many years. Of course you know that he was not in the battle of the Little Big Horn, but was left at Powder River with the company property. I am sending you J A Richardson's list of 7th Cavalry men, you may find something of interest in it but I have the impression that John Ryan of West Newton Mass furnished him with most of it. J A R says he was C, not B, and with the Pack Train. As for Tom Custers heart I am not disposed to accept Benteens story, Ryan says his body was badly mutilated, Gen. Chaby Roe says "a heart attached to a lariet was found in the deserted camp. as a member of the detail, that captured Rain in the face at Standing Rock, and saw the look on Rain's face, I can imagine that he would remember Tom Custer, and stop at nothing. many things were said about that battle out of sympathy for the friends of the fallen. I have letters from men who were present at the recovery of the officers remains one year later, which I can not bring myself to speak of. As I understand the Arickara Narative there was but one "Ree" with Curly and there two rode off on the back trail and when near the present town of Burly Curly started back for his agency without seeing anything more of the Rees or they of him. Curly showed up at the Far West about 11 A.M. June 27th, some 44 hours after the attack of Custer began, in the neighborhood of 2 oclock P.M June 25th would it take a badly scared Indian 44 hours to ride some 15 miles? If not, where was he. I may be wrong, but Goes Ahead, the Crow, and Red Star the Ree, both agree in their statement about Curly, Several men who have resided at Crow Agency have stated their disbelief in the various stories told by Curly, and I fully agree with them. He was with Custer for a part of the time and saw some of the battle without any doubt. That is the way it appears to me with the evidence that has so far come to my knowledge. Sincerely Yours Wm O Taylor. Orange. Mass. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p024.jpg) August 12 1922 Mr W M. Camp Chicago, ILL My Dear Friend :- Your letter of the 9nt inst to hand and noted contents, replying to same will say that I was much please to hear from you and trust you are enjoying good health, as for myself I am doing as well as could be expected for a fellow who has hunted Indians for several years , and thatnis forty years ago. Well as to this man Richardson I knew him He came to us in the fall of 1876 as a recrute , he inlisted in St Louis 9th day of July 1876,and thebattle occurred on 25 day of June 1876sso there was no chance for him to be at the Little Big Horn with Co <6> on that date. Well such fellows as he dont do much harm , but they should be shown up as frauds imposing on the public. Will close with kindest regards from Yours truly Daniel. A. Kanipe [The following written at the bottom of the page] PS Please give Mrs Camp our regards ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p025.jpg) [The following written in a stamp in the top middle of the page] PORTLAND AUG 20 [The following handwritten in red at the top of the page] Letter of Jas Richardson (late 7 Can) in re Peter Thompson & others not important W.M.Camp, 7740 union Ave Chicago Ill ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p027.jpg) Portland, Me. Aug. 20-22 Mr. W. M. Camp. Dear Sir:- Your letter received, relating to the battle of June 25-26—1876 when Genl. Custer and five Troops of the 7" U.S. Cavalry was completely wiped out on the Little Big Horn river in Mon- tana. I will say that I remember well the two men you mention Peter Thompson and James Watson that part of the sory as to thir being cut off from their Troop and joining Reno's com- mand is correct. There was four of them, Thompson ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p028.jpg) Watson Whidaker and McGuire all privates of my Troop. as to Watson's whereabouts, or what became of him I dont know. He was discharged in 1880, at the time he had a very bad cough and it was thought that he had the consumption, It seems to me that he was of English birch Three of this four was wounded, Thompson McGuire and Whidaker but not untill they joined the pack train. How near they got in to the fight with Genl. Custer I dont Know, but was near enough to be very uncomfortable. Watson was discharged and came east and I never heard of him afterwards. Yours Rect. James. A. Richardson 45 Forest ave Portland, Me. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p029.jpg) SLIM BUTTES Chicago sept 8/22 Mr. Camp I met a man from Slim Buttes on the 16th last month By name of Caral m Cornell and He informe me that thay had not Done Eney thing to the monument since we ware thare So I Had him Put a foundation under it and a 12 foot fence a round it I gave him $50 to fix it up I wil sea Gen Mills the first of next month he is is Satisfied to leave it whare we left it I saw him last november and explaned the reasen why we Put it near the State High way it is finished and about 50 yards from the monument Drop me a line J.a. KirKwood 4309 milgate st Pittsburgh Pa ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p030.jpg) Mr. W. M. Camp City ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p031.jpg) Pittsburgh. Pa Sept 13th 22 My Dear Mr Camp yours reseved and was vary sorry you Did not like the way that I had Handeld the work on the monument I wrote to my Friend Mr Cornell at Buffalo wyoming that if he had not started work on the monument not to til he Herd from me I sent your letter to me to Gen Mills with one I wrote him ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p032.jpg) this evening and asked him let me hear from him soon I wil sea him the first of October I thought I was Doing you Both a favor am sorry I Botherd Mr Carl M Cornell of Buffalo Wyo Do you no him he lives 15 miles west of Slim Buttes you might Drop him a line wil have a letter wrote to you from woshington ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p033.jpg) when I sea Gen Mills Hoping to hear from you soon I am as ever your Friend J. a. KirKwood 4309 milgate st Pittsburgh Pa ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p034.jpg) J M Sipes Miles City Mont Sept 16th 1922 Mr W M Camp Chicago ill Dear Sir in your last letter you said you would Be in Miles City some Time in august i Have Been up near the Yellowstone Park all Summer just got home went to The Hotel Olive to see if you Had Been Here But Saw That you Had not. i Expect To Be in Chicago or go through There about the first of october and would like to see you if i Have Time. Wish you would Write me About when you ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p035.jpg) Expect To go To Press With your Book. i May not Have Time To Stop But Will let you Know The Day and Time i Will Be There and if you Have Time Would like if you Could See Me at Depot. Please answer This and oblige yours Truly J M Sipes ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p036.jpg) Walter Reed General Hospital Ward 33 Nov 16th, 1922 Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Ave, Chicago, Ill. My dear friend Camp: Your letter received this morning. General Godfrey also read his letter from you to me as soon as he received it. I am very glad to tell you that the general has recovered and will leave the Hospital for the Army and Navy Club where he will remain a few days before returning to his home. I shall miss him very much, as he was near by when my eye was operated on and no doubt spoke a few words where they would do the most good and has visited my room twice a day since that time. The preliminary ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p037.jpg) operation on my left eye was performed Nov. 7th. and today I am allowed to put on my clothes and go around some. Major Spaeth pronounces the operation a decided success, and I feel the same about it. He will operate the second time on the same eye December 5th. I do not know whether he will consider the right eye ripe enough to operate on soon. If not I will probably leave this hospital before Christmas but if he goes ahead on the other eye it will likely be the last of February before I leave this Hospital. When you come to Washington don't fail to come and see me. The patients taking treatment for their eyes here consider Major Spaeth the ablest eye specialist in the country, and I am about the same opinion. Hoping to see you soon. I remain yours truly Fremont Kipp. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p038.jpg) Ward 33 Walter Reed General Hospital Washington, D.C. Nov. 27, 1922 My dear friend Camp: There is on duty in Washington a man whose name and address is as follows: Dr. Col. W. A. Graham 2101 Mauritious Bldg. Washington, D.C. I gave him your address yesterday when he called to see me at this Hospital. I also met him several times at General Godfrey's room. He is an investigator of the Battle of the "Little Big Horn." No doubt has more official information from old reports than any one else. The General and I both think that it would be for your mutual benefit for you and Col. Graham to get together. I would suggest that possibly that you write to him asking for an appointment before you leave Chicago for Washington, as that will ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p039.jpg) save time in your getting together after you arrive in Washington. I assured the Colonel yesterday when the two of you get together that you would not be the one to heak up the party. He replied that he thought he would stick as long as you did. You may receive receive a letter from him in the near future. My eye is causing me no trouble having lost the soreness of the previous operation. It will be operated on again next Tuesday. I will let you know the result of that operation about a week later. I do not know whether General Godfrey is still at the Club or not but he said when he left here that he would let me know when he started for home. Yours truly, Fremont Kipp Per. M. M. S. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p040.jpg) Nov. 30, 1922. Mr. W. M. Camp, Chicago, Ill. My dear Camp:- Old John Burkman, now living in the Soldiers Home here, has asked me to write to you to see if you have an extra print of a picture you took of him standing at Custer's headstone on the battlefield, several years ago. I have got pretty well acquainted with Burkman and another man who was with Reno in the Little Big Horn fight. The old man certainly retains his memory remarkable well for a man of 84, and he has told me about all he can recall as things happened that day. Do you know Lieut.-Col. W. A. Graham at Washington, and did you ever have any conversation with him? He seems to have a lot of material on the battle. It certainly beats the devil the way "eye witnesses" and "sole survivors" continue to crop out. I ran across one the other day of an old cuss who claimed he was freighting up the Little Big Horn river the day of the fight, and saw the whole battle, but the Indians didn't touch him as he was acquainted with several of the chiefs!!!! I wonder where he was freighting to?There wasn't any wagon road up the Little Big Horn that I ever heard of. Then I got another just this week from the Boston Post, where an old cuss living near there by the name of "Old Russ" claimed Sitting Bull gave orders to take Custer alive and so several Indian tried to throw a riata over his head, but that he would toss it off every time, and they were finally com- pelled to kill him, but that they did rope Tom Custer!! Gosh, what rot and drivel! I do not hearanything more from that old liar, Alfred Chapman, who saw it all from a hill thru a spyglass! I guess that roasting I gave him settled his hash. Burkman was anxious to give me one of those pictures you took of him. I told him I would write you about it. Have you been up to the battlefield since I last saw you? I want to make it next summer again if I can arrange matters. Sincerely yours, E. A. Brininstool Brininstool ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p041.jpg) 7740 Union Av., Chicago, Ill. December 20, 1922. Mr. William Garnett, Pine Ridge, S. D. My dear Mr. Garnett: I have received your letter of the 15th inst., and thank you for the enclosures, and the letter from Dr. McGillycuddy and the photograph of a delegation from the Sioux sent to Washington in 1875. I will try to have this photograph enlarged, but, as you know, it is broken through the middle and pretty badly scratched up, and you must not expect a first-class result. I am pleased to learn that a private bill has been in- troduced in congress to grant you a pension, for you certain- ly deserve one, and I am glad to lend what assistance I can. The mere difference that you were always a civilian scout and guide instead of an enlisted one should not stand in the way of your getting a pension. I am not personally acquainted with any of the congress- men from Chicago, but I am writing to Representative Guy L. Shaw, whom also I do not know, and to Congressman Mondell, from Wyoming, whom I know very well and who, as you know, is a very influential member of the House, being the leader on the Republican side. I am enclosing copies of my letters to these two congressmen. Yours truly, WMC-S. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p042.jpg) 7740 Union Av., Chicago, Ill. December 20, 1922. Hon. Guy L. Shaw, Congressman from Illinois, House of Representatives, Washington, D. C. Dear Sir: I understand that House Bill 13265, proposing to grant a pension to William Garnett, Indian scout during the Sioux wars of 1876-78, has been introduced by Congressman Williamson, and, addressing you as a member of the pension committee of the House, I desire to give you something of the record of Mr. Garnett in government service. Mr. Garnett, who during the frontier days was known as William Hunter, taking that name from his stepfather, undoubtedly experienced the largest service of any of the government scouts who served during the wars with the Sioux in the 70s. Unfortunately for his present status, however, he always served as a civilian instead of an enlisted scout. Many of the Sioux who were enlisted scouts and whose ser- vice was nothing near as important as that of Mr. Garnett are now receiving pensions, being eligible under the law. Mr. Garnett's qualifications as a scout, guide and interpreter were so important that much of the time he served personally on the staff of General Crook. He was a man who enjoyed the confidence of both army officers and the leaders of the Sioux nation, and in more than one instance his intercession served the government a good purpose when trouble was brewing. On several occasions he was under fire, in pitched battles, notably in the fight of the destruction of Dull Knife's village in November, 1876. After the wars were over Mr. Garnett was interpreter for Dr. Gillycuddy, who was the first agent of the Red Cloud Sioux, and his knowledge of these people and his ability as an interpreter were indispensable to the government at that time. Mr. Garnett is now old and in feeble health, and it is but the plain duty of the government to see that his living is provided for by a suitable pension. I have known Mr. Garnett for 14 years, and can vouch for him as a man of splendid character. Yours truly, WMC-S. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F36_B2_F14_p043.jpg) 7740 Union Av., Chicago, Ill. December 20, 1922. Hon. F. W. Mondell, Congressman from Wyoming, Capitol Bldg., Washington, D. C. My dear Mr. Mondell: I understand that a bill, H. R. 13265, has been introduced by Congressman Williamson to grant a pension to William Garnett who served as a civillian scout in the Sioux wars, during the years 1876-78. I want to tell you that I have known Mr. Garnett for 14 years, he is a man of splendid character and veracity, he is getting old and in feeble health, and if you can use your influence in any way to assist the passage of this bill your efforts will be in line of patriotic duty. Mr. Garnett was one of the most distinguished of the scouts who served during the Sioux wars, and I can say truthfully in my opinion he had a larger experience in such service than any of the others during the Sioux wars. Owing to his knowledge of the country, his ability as an interpreter and his reliability he was, much of the time, on the personal staff of General Crook, and on several occasions he accompanied General Crook to Washington as his personal interpreter. Mr. Garnett saw hard service as a scout and guide, and although he always served as a civilian, he was on several occasions under fire, with the enlisted men and enlisted scouts. After the wars were over his services as an interpreter to Agent McGillycuddy in getting the Red Cloud Sioux quieted down and established on Pine Ridge reservation were indispensable. Dr. McGillycuddy had told me what important assistance Mr. Garnett render- ed at that time. In my opinion it will be regretful neglect if the government does not at this time provide a suitable pension for Mr. Garnett in his old age. Yours truly, WMC-S. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p001.jpg) Charles King Jan. 2". 23 My dear Mr Camp: A man asked me two or three days ago if the Indians castrated Ch[---] Po- nier and I did not know enough about it to say. What are the facts? Brinninstool's Bozeman Trail is out and he is having a not unsual Experience with the publishing. B. asked me if I had ever seen the story of one Peter Thompson who claimed to have seen the Custer fight of June 25", 76. It seems to me I have—a preposterous tale of having been left a bit be- hind will a played out horse & watching the affair from a clump of Bushes. Cook is now in Los Angeles Happy New Year to you Charles King King ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p002.jpg) Jan. 10, 1923. My dear Mr. Camp: My left eye is now almost well. The sight being restored to near-normal. I will have a glass for it Friday and will then go back to the Home for six weeks, as I will be able to take more exercise there, having some one to run around with me than I would take at this Hospital. The past seventy days have become rather tiresome and I feel I need some exercise before being confined for seventy more days. If you are in Washington before the first of March, you will find me at the Home, likely in the hospital there. There is a Colonel Reno, a patient at this hospital, but I have been unable to meet him as yet, or to learn weather he is any relation to Major Reno, formerly of the 7th Cavelry. He is about 45 years old ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p003.jpg) so possibly he may be a son. I will try to find out later on something about who he is. Hoping that I will see you on your next trip to Washington, I remain, Yours truly, Fremont Kipp. Box 1907, Washington, D.C. P.S. Gen. Godfrey is now at his home at Cookstown, N.J. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p004.jpg) January 16, 1923. Mr. W. M. Camp, Editor, Railway Review, 7740 Union Ave., Chicago, Illinois. Dear Mr. Camp: I have been away from the office for sometime, and upon my return, I find your very interesting letter under date of December 20, 1922, regarding the question of granting a pension to William Garnett, an Indian Scout. I am looking into this matter for the purpose of ascertaining the exact status of the bill, and shall write you fully at a later date. I am one of those who believe firmly that these old frontiersmen should be carefully taken care of, as any soldiers. In fact, I feel that many of them underwent greater hardships than most of the soldiers of our re- cent wars. Very truly yours, Guy L. Shaw ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p005.jpg) Billy Garnett Pine Ridge, S. Dak., January 27, 1923. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Ill. Dear Friend Camp: I am just in receipt of Congressman Guy L. Shaw's letter to you relative to my pen- sion. Am favorably impressed by the tone of his letter and believe he will help me in the matter. I surely appreciate what you have done for me and I feel very grateful to you as well as many other friends you have gone out of their way to assist me. Relative to the matter of the Indian stallions beg to say that up to about 1874 the Sioux Indians made a practice of cutting their horses but in most cases they cut their best horses as they wanted the best mounts for hunting and fighting. They tried to cut and keep their best running horses for the pruposes mentioned. From 1874 to 1877 they did not have much time to cut their horses as the military authorities were after them and kept them on the move so that during those years the number of stallions greatly in- creased among their herds. I hope this answers your inquiry. Had a very mild winter here so far, not much snow or cold weather but we are apt to make up for it later on. Hope you can come out this summer as I would like to see you again. Do not feel that I am good for this world many more years and it would be a real pleasure to see you again and to renew our acquaintance and friendship. I have been blessed with many good friends and certainly appre- ciate what they have done and are trying to do for me. If you hear anything further from Mr. Shaw, please keep me informed. With best wishes, I am Your friend, William Garnett ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p006.jpg) Ward 33. Walter Reed Hospital Washington D.C. Feb. 9th 1923. My dear Mr. Camp:- I recieved your letter yesterday and of course was glad to hear from you. The first operation on my right eye was preformed last Tuesday and I think the second operation will be about the first Tuesday in March. After that I expect to have good sight in both eyes, as the left one is already perfect. Col. Graham's
will appear in the April number of the Cavalry Journal, published at 1624 H street, N. W. Washington, D.C. General Godfreys comments on the same will be in the same number. Col. Graham has gone very deeply into the records in regard to the Sioux campaign of 1876 and I think ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p007.jpg) it will be worth reading. Mr. John Donahue, formerly of K Tropp, 7th Cavalry, is now in the Home here. He has resided since 1881 near Butte Mont. and and his memory is good on things that happened from 1875 to 1880 so I know you will enjoy having a talk with him. Hoping to see you in Washington soon. I remain your friend Fremont Kipp. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p008.jpg) East Moriches Long Island New York Feb 11th 1923. Mr W M. Camp Chicago Ill My Dear Mr Camp. In looking over my letter files I find your very interesting letter of DEC 29. 1919. I dont know that it realy calls for an answer, but every time I read it over —which is many—my mind drifts back to old Morris Island and the things that transpired there. Your father sure gave you the right dope on that Escapade on the night of July 2nd, 1864. Our officers and men of the 127th N.Y. were ashamed of the results. for we should have supported the 52nd Penna. and Fort Johnson would have been taken. Some one in the command when we were fired upon gave the order to retreat. it was never learned who did. whether officer or private. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p009.jpg) but it was quickly obeyed by the boats that were afloat. Knowing part of the command had landed, Major John a Little of the 127th N.Y. our Major was a fine regular army officer. and a fighter & never gave the order to retreat. but his boat & a number of others was stuck on sand bars. & when they were floated by our getting out into the water the dash was from the sand-bar to our own army camp on Morris Island. 4 companies of my Regt were on detached duty. at left Battery & did the boat picket duty. from the mouth of Schumer Inlet to cummings Point 500 yds from Fort Sumpter. I run a scout boat all around Charleston Harbor nights. You & I could have a good little visit I think. I have spent many years in Minnesota & west to the coast. have been in Chicago many times. I was there just a day after the big fire. before it was through smoking. I have a good friend in Chicago that you may know at least in a business way Frank D. Stout, office in Railway exchange. he finished or completed a beautiful home quite recently. Some speak of it as Stouts Million dollar palace. he is one of the finest men I ever knew, and I have known him 50 years. If you have the time & care to I would be pleased to hear from you any time Sincerely yours C N. Edwards ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p010.jpg) February 14, 1923. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Ills. Dear Mr. Camp: Only yesterday my extras of the Medicine Wheel Paper came in, and under another cover I am sending you a copy. I should be glad to have any comments on it that you may feel like making. I thought the Bents Fort Story might interest you some- what, thought, of course, it is apart from your line of work. I gave in that story all I know about Charboneau. There may be other mentions of him of which I have not heard. I made no investigation of the Shoshone wife of the elder Charboneau further than what I got years ago from the Reverend Mr. Roberts of Fort Washaki. He repeated to me only what the woman and her son had said. There is no reason to doubt the truth of these statements so far as I know. I had heard the rumor of the court record from St. Louis, showing that this wife had died, but it is hard for me to understand how her death should have been reported in St. Louis and become a matter of court record. I have never seen any paper on the subject, but have an idea that Dr. Hebbard took one side or the other of the question. I have forgotten al- most everything about it. I doubt if trustworthy information as to her name will ever be had. Your sincerely, Geo. Bird Grinnell ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p011.jpg) [The following is a stamp at the top of the page] GEORGE F. CHASE 1727 Que Street, N. W. WASHINGTON, D. C. March 20- 23. My Dear Mr Camp. It is getting on towards the season when the grass begins to grow. The Braves are looking after their war ponies, The o[---] of Indian wars in considering a "get to-gether" The meeting of old friends and perhaps a banquet. Your name is usually mentioned first among those whom we hope to have with us in our spring Caucla[-]. I saw General Auson Mills last Sunday. He spoke of you in most complimentary terms, of the Indian war's dinner. He said "I will be there if I can, but will make no promise" General Mills has failed very rapidly of late. He is ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p012.jpg) [column 1] 2) unsteady on his feet. His memory is most unreliable. There are a lot now of the old frontier army who are not as vigorous as they were in the days when "mans souls were tried." Thire bodies roasted or frozen in the far away western wilderness. Marching the advance of civilization on its way to the Pacific. Our records is of the opinion, that it is hard to get the old fellows out in the evening, and speaks of some thing in the way of meeting in the day time, So: it seems that the Indians, and their soldier opponents are passing to the great beyond together. For it cannot be denied that the Indian race as we knew it from 1870 to 1890 has diappeared from Earth. There still Singers are interest is[-] those of the Red who still survive and [column 2] 3) my curiosity leads me to ask: if you have seen Dull Knife's daughter since we parted in Washington? You seemed confident that she was alive and expressed as a possibility that you would see in one of your western for[--]s I should like to know how she has faced since that fatal night of January 8th 1879. I should be very glad to have a line from you as to how the history is progressing and if I can be of any service to you in your work. Very Truly Yours Geo F. Chase [The following is a stamp at the bottom of the right side] GENERAL GEORGE F. CHASE 1727 Que Street, N. W. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p013.jpg) April 1st, 1923. Mr. W. M. Camp, Chicago Ill. My Dear Mr. Camp:- In about ten days a friend of mine, Mr. T. James Gatchell, who is visiting Chicago. Will call upon you. I have given him a letter of introduction to you. Mr. Gatchell is intense ly interested in all Indian History of the West and has made a speciality of this Power River Section. He has done more research work along this line than any other local man of my acquaintance. If you enjoy him as much as I have both of you, it will be a pleasant and profitable meeting. Very Sincerely, L R A Condit [The following handwritten diagnally in the bottom left corner of the page] answered 10/8/23 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p014.jpg) [The following handwritten diagnally in the top left corner] answered Little Eagle, S.D. April 14, 1923. Hon., W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. Dear Mr. Camp: As you may know the relatives of Sitting Bull have been anxious for sometime to secure per- mission to remove the body from its present burial place at Fort Yates to the place on the Grand River where Sitting Bull was killed. I am informed that some action was taken either in congress or by the Department of Interior giving permission to erect a monument at the place where the historic event took place. The parties interested, however, believe that the monument should not be erected until the grave of Sitting Bull is definitely and finally located at the place where his relatives desire him to be buried. We have therefore petitioned the quarter master General of the Army for permission to move the body from Fort Yates to the Grand River location and hand you enclosed herewith a copy of this petition. Knowing your great interest in these matters and also knowing your feeling toward the parties concerned, I ask that you do all in your power toward getting the permission which we ask. You will know who to write to and we can assure you that your friendly offices in this matter will be greatly appreciated by a large number of Indians on the Standing Rock Reservation. I am also writing to General Miles asking his assistance and interest in this matter. Again assuring you of our great appreciation, I am, Yours very truly, George Whitebull Edward Young Eagle ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p015.jpg) Apr. 18, 1923 Ward 33 Walter Reed Gen. Hosp. Washington, D.C. My dear friend:- The second operation removing the cataract from my right eye was done April 3rd, The eye now being nearly well. I will likely be back at the Home about May 1st, with either eye as good as they were twenty- five years ago with my first glasses. I am able to read without any trouble whatever. Of course I am not using my right eye as yet, but have tried it enough so I am sure my sight will be as good from it as from the left one. I am enclosing a letter from our mutual friend, which please return to me as I wish to have it when I return to the Home. The "Col. Graham" article with Gen Godfrey's comments on some will not appear until the July number of the Cavalry Journal. I will mail you copy of the journal at that time un- less the article is again postponed. Yours truly, Fremont Kipp. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p016.jpg) Washington, D.C. April 18, 1923. Mr. Charles Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir: I desire to get some information concerning George Duffey who belonged to Custer's Command and was reported killed a short time before the massacre of Custer. If you have within your reach any information concerning him I will be grateful for it. I have searched the libraries here, and examined everything I could find concerning Custer with- out securing the information wanted. I have your address through Mr. Dennis Lynch of this city. Very truly yours, 1211 Lamont St.N.W. J. W. Duffey. [The following handwritten sideways in the right margin] answered 4/23/23 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p017.jpg) July 10, 1923. My dear Camp:- I note in some reports of the Crow scouts stories of the Custer fight that they state that White Swan and Half Yellow Face were with Reno and were killed. This certainly must be an error in the case of White Swan at least, as I have his photo taken at the 10th anniversary of the battle along with Godfrey, McDougal, Benteen and others. Do you know if Half Yellow Face was killed with the Reno men in the river bottom? I have no recollection of ever hearing of it if he was. I knew you would know if anyone did. If he wasn't killed there do you know when and where he died? The recent death of Curley leaves none but White-Man-Runs-Him, according to Asbury, the superin- tendent at Crow Agency. Anything you can give me about Half Yellow Face will be appreciated. As I understand it, none of the Crows went in with Custer, except Mitch Bouyer the half breed who had them in charge, and he was killed. Cordially yours, E. A. Brininstool (over) ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p018.jpg) Lake Village, Ind 7/19/23 My Dear Brinnertool:- Both Half Yellow Face and White Swan were in the thick of the fight, witth Reno, in the bottom, and went with him in the big run to the bluff and staid with him until Terry came, on the 27th. Both of them survived the battle several years and died natural deaths, so far as I know, on the Crow reservation. I have a leave of absence from my old occu- pation, as editor, and am trying to put into shape, for sale, a farm at the above address, which I have owned 11 years. For a man of my age I have "too many irons in the fire". I have not been working regularly on the River for more than a year. That was a good article you had in the Hunter, Trader & Trapper, and I thank you for having copies of it sent to me. The old Indian fighters are dropping off fast, now. Yours cordially W. M. Camp. [The following handwritten and circled at the bottom right of the page] over ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p019.jpg) July 16, 1923 Mr. W. M. Camp, 537 Dearborn St., Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir: Knowing of your interest in Indian wars and fights on the plains the committee on arrangements has instructed me to ex- tend to you an invitation to be present at the fifty-sixth anniversary of the fight at the hay corral, near old Fort C. F. Smith at the mouth of the Big Horn Canyon. This in all probibility was the greatest, or one of the greatest, fights in history--nineteen U. S. soldiers successfully withstood the onslaught of two thousand Sioux Indians for six hours, with the loss of two soldiers and one civilian. On August 1 the citizens of Big Horn County plan to com- memorate the event by erecting a suitable marker at the place of the fight. F. G. Burnett who was present in the corral during the fight has promised to be present. All the old scouts and soldiers who had anything to do with Fort C. F. Smith or the Bozeman trail are being looked up and urged to be present. The old Indians will appear in the tribal cos- tumes that they wore fifty-odd years ago and put on a war dance. Now Mr. Camp you have an enviable reputation in this community as an authority upon Indian fights and you are cordially in- vited to be present that you may interview in person these history makers that have left their indelible foot-prints on the rocky surfaces of Montana territory. Cordially, W A Russell WAR/M Chairman Historical Society [The following handwritten diagnally in the bottom left corner] answered 7/20/23 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p020.jpg) [The following handwritten sideways in the top left corner] answered 2/14/24 Torrington, Wyoming, September 1, 1923. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7760 Union Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. My dear Mr. Camp: I received your esteemed letter of August 3 in due time. I am very glad to hear from you as it has been several years since you honored me with a letter. I had not heard of the death of Curly the Crow scout, but had heard of the death of Fred Hans. Hans was a scout and a warrior more in his own imagination than he was in reality. I knew him fairly well, but we will have to be charitable to him now as he is not here to defend himself. Your experience as a farmer is about the same as mine has always been, and my dislike of hard work has made it harder. I hope you will realize on your crops according to your most sanguine expectations. The same old disease, hay fever, is still handicapping me as it was when I saw you last, some five or six years ago. I have been expecting to see you out in this country again for several years, and not having heard from you I did not know whether you had left us for good or not. I hear from General Cook occasionally and hope to get to see him sometime this fall. General King seems to have cut my acquaintance entirely, as I have not heard from him for a long time. The farms of this country are in a very thrifty condition, so much so that I think you would be utterly surprised to travel up the valley at this time. Some of the crops are as good as you would see any where in Illinois. I am very comfortably situated here in Torrington and hope to see you out in this country in the very near future and when you come I hope to have you stop with me and we will reminisce old Indian stories and many things that happened that you have heard of and I have heard of and possibly both have seen. I do not think of any thing else that would interest you particularly, so will have to subscribe myself, Yours very truly, JH/LP John Hunton ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p021.jpg) [The following is a stamp at the top of the page] GEN. E. S. GODFREY COOKSTOWN, NEW JERSEY. [The following handwritten in pencil, diagnally at the top right of the page] answered 10/16 Another Milestone yesterday, 9th, puts me in the Octogenarian Cl[---]— Cookstown, N. J. Oct. 10 1923. Mr W. M. Camp/ Chicago, Ill. My dear Camp, I've been intending to write to you for a long while, but something always interfered. So, now, I'm not going to write a letter, but just to tell you that I will go to Chi cago on 22nd (probably) for the meetings of the Loyal Legion on 23 & 24— I have him for my old home town, Ottawa, Ohio, on 15th where I will be till the 22nd. I was over to N.Y. on 1st 2 & 3rd to attend the reunion of the Legion of Valor (Medal of Honor & Dist. Sur. I was holders). They honored me by stating me commander. Hope to see you in Ch. so will not write. With all good wishes Cordially yours E. S. Godfrey ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p022.jpg) [written diagonally in the top left corner] answered 9/28/23 [The following a stamp at the top of the page] GEN. E. S. GODFREY COOKSTOWN, NEW JERSEY. May 14 1923 My dear Camp: I was very glad to see your name among those chosen on the "Council on Indian Affairs". It is quite a compliment worthily bestowed. I was pleased to see that our friends Scott and Dr Grinnell were among your assiciates. It is high time that a lot of practical men should come together and evolve a policy in the interest of the Indian. It is over thirty years since the "Indian [--]stior", so far as the Army was concerned, was settled, and their progress in Civilized pursuits has been too slow since that time. I didnt notice if Gen. Pratt was on the Council but presume not as he is tabboo with the Indian Bureau. I think he should have been named. I have the last installment of Slapir's story. I cant see that he has added much from a historical point but am glad he has had his "say". ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p023.jpg) Did Brininstool tell you what Slapir had to say about Peter Thompson's story? I judge from what Major Howe, the writer of the Cavalry Journal wrote me that Col Graham's "Martins story" will appear in the June or July number—Martin died Christmas Eve. I have always understood that Martin took the message back to McDougall and that Benteen claimed the message from McDougall. I am certain that our Column passed Martin (for my Troop was in the rear of the Column) when he said they were "skedaling", using that expression but Martin told Graham that he did not go back. Martin testified at the Court of Inquiry that he did go back. Two men of K Troop have recently asked me to recommend them for the Medal of Honor. John Donohue now at the Soldiers Home Washington and William Gibbs at the Veterans Home Napa Co Calif. both claiming that they volunteered to get water. I have racked my brain trying to recall the incident in their behalf, but am unable to connect with them. I remem- ber that some one came to me with water and Donohue says he was the man but. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p024.jpg) as I could not make a clear vision of his action, I could not make the re- commendation. I have always under- stood that all those who volunteered to get water were recommended for the M. H. I know I did. These recommendations were referred to a Board of Officers of which I think Col. Major Merrill was President when the regiment was in Camp J. G. Sturgis, near Bear Butte, Black Hills, in 1878. I have an indistinct recollection that the Board turned down all except those who made the first and perhaps the second "Rush" for water and only those who were then <1878> in the service. I was not at Camp J. G. Sturgis as I was at Fort Yates recovering from my Bear Paw wound, which had again given me trouble, but my Troop, D, was there at the Camp. I was quite surprised to see that Photo in H.T.T as Bloody Knife. I saw no resem- blance, but cannot say whose likeness it is. No meeting has been called this year of the Order of Indian Wars. I understand that Gen. Miles has been sick. But I am just ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p025.jpg) there may be some other reason for the delay. Sincerely Yours E. S. Godfrey ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p026.jpg) [The following handwritten diagnally at the top left of the page] answered 10/18/23 October 10, 1923. Mr. W. M. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Ills. Dear Mr. Camp: On my way back from the west a little while ago I stopped at the office of the Railway Review in the hope that I might see you. You were not there, and so I must write you, but only to repeat two or three things that we have often talked of. I spent a few days on the Tongue River Indian Reservation and saw some of the old-time people. The Indians are getting along about as usual, and have the usual amount of troubles. Old White Bull, as I think you know, has passed away. He died nearly two years ago. One or two men spoke to me about our project of marking the graves of the old chiefs, that is to say Dull Knife, Old Little Wolf and, possibly, Little Chief. I explained to them why this was not done at the time we first talked of it, and bring up the matter again now to say that if you now feel able to look after this matter I shall be very glad indeed to stand my share of the expense. In Sheridan someone spoke to me about the Wagon Box Fight and the fact that the precise locality of the Wagon Box Corral had been marked in two or three places. It has always seemed to me that the way to settle this matter was to take back to the locality where that fight took place some of the Indians who were in the battle. Of these there are still left alive two or three, Young Little Wolf, Braided Locks, ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p027.jpg) and, possibly, Tall White Man. There is some doubt attached to the memory of the man who has not seen the locality where an important event took place for 50 or 60 years, but those Indians knew this locality as well as you and I know our backyards. Would it not tend to settle this question of where the corral stood if we could take out there some of the Indians who were in the fight? If by any chance we should be together at Sheridan at some time, I should be glad to go with you and I should be quite will- ing to pay half the cost of taking them out there, presumably by automobile, if you felt inclined to oversee the job. On my trip west I saw a lot of our friends and acquaintances and we often spoke of you. Yours very truly, Geo. Bird Grinnell ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p028.jpg) [The following handwritten diagnally in the top left corner] answered 2-21-24 Oct. 21-st, 1923. My Dear Mr. Camp:- I have your letter of Oct 8-th, and am very glad to hear from you. I had hoped that you could visit us again this year. Dr. Grinnell was at Sheridan during the summer, but did not come out this way. If I had known exactly the date of his being in Sheridan, should have made the trip to see him. Part of his errand this trip to Sheridan was to inspect the National Forest in the vicinity of Sheridan with the idea of having some part of it set aside as a National Park. I do not know what the result of this visit will be, or what recomendation he and his associates will make. Mr. Gatchell is the same man who has a drug store in Buffalo and one of the best informed men on battles and campaigns in the Powder River Country that I know, except yourself. I hoped you could meet him. I asked him about his visit to you, on his return. His reply was that he called at you office and was informed that you were out of the city. I regret very much that you did not meet. He is a very interesting man. I hope that some time later you can get together. He has been collecting materials for years and is trying to get it into readable shape. The farmers of the U.S. are in rather bad shape. The Wyoming stockmen are no exception. I have been making the struggle of my life to hold my outfit together. It is still a question if I will s succeed. We had two bad winters with heavy expense and heavy losses. Then there was great depreciation in values. All values have dissa- peared from Wyoming land, and many of us staked everyth ing on land. The price of labor and all supplies is back to the war level, almost. Taxes are almost confiscatory. If we sell a few dollars over the limit of untaxable income, the Government agents step in and try to take it away from us. There is no direction in which we can turn for relief. All this political hue and cry about loans from the National Government to ease up the situation is pure bunk. It is not loans we need, but living prices for our products. The Govern- ment is powerless to help us by legislation. The relief will be very slow, and is entirely in the hands of farmers themselves through organization and better and more diversified farming. It is a question if we can hold on and finally win out. It is not the time to quit. There is nothing to do but carry on. We have had big floods and lots of damage to roads and ditches. The floods did great damage to the railroads, and in many places to the ranches in the valleys. We had not much damage here. We are all quite well and hard at work. With kindest regards and best wishes, Sincerely, LRA Condit ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p029.jpg) Odanah, Wis. 10/15-23 W.M. Camp. Chicago—Ill Dear Sir, I have the information that you have received an invitation from the Hon Sic of the Interior to act with others as his advisors contemplating a changed policy of the Indian Policy of administration. The D idea is a great more and hope for its perfection but to late for us here. Now Mr Camp if you have excepted the invitation as a patriotic lover of Aboriginal and decendants, and if you wish to have facts & informations of mistakes & neglects of the Indian department upon which you can show & recomend a very drastic change. This Reservation of which I am a member has an era of about 125000 acres of fine agricultural land cut over timber land. It would be well for you to find out the particulors concerning the 22 million dollars paid the Indians in the past 30 years for timber. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p030.jpg) The timber has all been exhausted, lumber planted liqudated, the village fortly becoming abandoned with not prospects of any enterprises or developments to continue in our past prosperity. No possible interior highways or farming roads, excepting the main Truck road. This reservation will give you sufficent stuff on Past - Present - & future everything & nature that comes under the Indian departments discretion & rules. A general Indian Policy should be made with amended regulations to fit the local or different reservations conditions & circumstances. Yours truly John J Doherty ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p031.jpg) Halstead Kansas 29 October <1923> Mr Camp Dear Friend I am glad to say I am Well and hearty. am hoping you are the same. If The Sheridan People gets as many Indians their to Locate that Battle ground as We had fiting us. They will take the Town in 10 minutes. I would say that highest Peak West (or nearly West) of the Corall Was 80 rods from Where I was on oppisite side of Corall. and where the Road Came Down of the hill on the Flat was 80 Rods too where I was. Where them 2 lines Cross is Near enoug h the Place too Suit any Body that is my opinion ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p032.jpg) that is what I thought that Evening When that Party that Came out after us When they Came down on the Flat and turned towards us. Why is the Sheridans People a Belliaking about it any way. Do they want it Located in Sheridan. have you given up Publis Town Book.. We had a Cold wet spring and then an awful dry summer, and then Wet fall. fair wheat, not much Corn in this Vicinty. it is Raining now 10.30 With many goo wishes for you I will Close for this time yours J M Hoover ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p033.jpg) [The following handwritten diagnally in the top left corner] answered 12/13/23 Spearfish, S.D. Dec. 10, 1923. Mr. W. M. Camp Chicago, Ill. Dear Sir:- I am a student in the Spearfish Normal. In the course of English V I have chosen to write a paper entitled "A Brief History of Harding County." I have been directed to you and write in the hope that you may find it convenient to send some information concerning the history of the Crow Buttes which are near the southern boundary of Harding County. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p034.jpg) Any bit of history will be very much appreciated. I am sincerely Gladys Satterlee. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p035.jpg) Pine Ridge, S. Dak., December 18, 1923. Mr. W. W. Camp, 7740 Union Avenue, Chicago, Ill. Dear Friend: Last year you were kind enough to interest Congressman Guy L. Shaw in the matter of a bill introduced by Representative William Williamson, of South Dakota, to obtain for me a pension. All pension legislation was passed over in the Senate during the last days of the last Congress including my bill which hadbeen favorable reported and passed by the House of Representatives. I have requested Mr. William- son to introduce a new bill for my relief and if you can do anything for me in this matter I shall greatly appreciate your efforts. My health has not improved very much and as I am getting quite old and in need of assistance I am asking my friends to make a special effort to get my pension through. Any- thing you may do will be of assistance especially if Mr. Shaw and other members of Congress from Illinois can be requested to lend me their aid. Other friends are working on the matter and by concerted effort shomethong should be accomplished for me during the present Congress. (Over) ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p036.jpg) Trust you are well and propering in every way, and I take this opportunity of wishing you a Merry Christmas and may the New Year bring you much joy and prosperity. Thanking you for your sympathy and aid and trusting to hear from you at an early date, I remain Sincerely your friend, William Garnett ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p037.jpg) Feb.12-th,1924. Mr.W.M.Camp. Chicago, Ill. Dear Mr. Camp:- I have been thinking for some time I should write you, but have been slow to get at it. Dr.Grace Raymond Hebard started a campaign last spring, nearly a year ago, to get from the old timers and others the origin of place names in Wyoming. She has been trying to get me started at this,biut I have neglected to do this A few days ag I saw Dr. Hebard in Laramie and had a talk with her about the place names. She does not expect to use the material gathered, except to turn it over to the Historical Socia[-]ty. We have had several talks about geohraphical names. I have always been interested in your idea of the origin of the word or name, "Crazy Woman" from the Indian word meaning foolish or sill woman. I have forgotten the word, and the tribe to which it belongs. Unless you wish to use this theory as to the origin of the name in some book which you may publish, I wish you would give me your explanation of the origin of this name. I should like to turn it in on this collection of place names, giving you cre dit. We are plugging away in about the same old way. It seems that we might have a little improvment in conditions in this year 1924. From reports we seem to be better off in Wyoming than in some of the surrounding states. I hope you will be able to come out this summer and visit us. Dr. Grinnell was out to Sheridan last summer, but we did not get to see him. We are all quite well. With best wishes, Sincerely yours, R A Condit [The following is handwritten diagnally in the bottom left corner] answered 2/21/24 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p038.jpg) [The following handwritten at the top left of the page] Ostrunder April 19th 1924 My dear mr. Camp. Since writing to you last I have been passing through deep troubles. In early March I was taken with Flu and on 16th Mar. developed Pleuro Pneumonia and am now just able to walk as far as the first corner. When at the lowest ebb myself, my dear wife was taken after only three days illness and I knew nothing of it until after her interment. It leaves me all alone with neither kith or kin of any kind on earth; not even a cousin. I am unable to give you the information you ask. It appeared in Camp Fire of Adventure some time last summer; July, August or Sept. I think. You know hundreds of tourist visit the Custer fight territory and many of them write up a "True Story" of that catastrophy; entirely wrong and calculated to do harm to youthful readers. General Graham referred to such articles condemning them severely and stated that himself, Gen. E. S. Godfrey of Cookestown, N.J. ; E. A. Brininstool of Los Angeles and W. M. Camp of Chicago were the only writers of the true facts in the matter. That's all I can tell you now. Why not write Gen. Graham your- self and ask him to give you date of his article? Yours very truly A.B. Ostrander [The following handwritten at the bottom of the page] Ive sent several communications to that sruggest Gatchell at Buffalo Wyo but hear nothing from him ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p039.jpg) [The following handwritten diagnally in the top left corner] answered 5/7/24 Miles City Mont april 28th 1924 Mr W M Camp Chicago Ill Dear Sir Coln Thompson asked me To get Mrs Billy Dickinsons address He said you gave it To Him once but He lost it. Do you Expect to come to Montana This year if so about When. We Have Had a nice winter But a late spring. i was east last winter but i did not stay in Chicago long and Thought Best not to Bother you Dont Know Wither i will Be in Chicago this fall or not if so i will Try and see you. Owing To The Banks at Miles City closing it Has Put me short of money so i cant Tel just what i will Do. Some Times i Think i Had Better Try and get a Pension of The Government as i understand That some people who Percipated in Indian war who was not soldiers get a Pension what Do you Think of it Please answer Best wished J M Sipes ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p040.jpg) [The following handwritten diagnally in the top middle of the page] answered 6/2/24 May 5—24 Friend Camp in answer to your letter I will say my eyes sight in good as one wearing glasses. Meckling is in Hospital at present nothing serious the matter with him John Fox alright. Severence is still here Huff left for Danville about a month ago Joe Green Died about a year ago and Martin MC Hue about 4 months ago Did you see in the papers that General Frank Baldwin was burried in Arlington some 9 months ago he was in the fifth Infantry in 1877. General latell died in Walter Read Hospital last week. Col. Varnum's son was in trouble here in Washington last fall at over two wives. Yes I hear from General Godfrey when ever I wright to him. I was in New York for three weeks last October and seen the picture the Covered Wagon it is very good. Grifith picture America is showing Washington now it is one of his best it is now in its 3rd week at Poli's Theater. do you Coolige will be reelected. Who do you think ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p041.jpg) will be the Democratic Nominee. I think that Meador would be their strongest man but it is hard to tell what they will do in New York Coolidge will not looze any votes over the vetoe of the Bursum pension Bill as it was an outrg outragous Bill which no sensible man would aprove of. it would have given me $1600 a month more but he done right in vetoeing it. I may be in Chicago in Sept— am not sure yet. we are having nice weather here and the Home looks fine I will be glad to hear from any time Yours Truly Fremont Kipp ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p042.jpg) [The following handwritten diagnally in the top left corner] answered 8/9/24 Niles, Aug. 7-24 My dear Mr Camp:— just received your letter. I mailed [illegible deletion] niles paper in wrapper & this morning I mailed you both to Bend papers in wrapper so am wondering if you will get them O.K. look out for them. I mailed to Lake Village [-]e R. R. No. The articls are very fine & a splendid picture of your friend. I talked with this Quimby & her father was Capt H. Baxter Quinby <25th Inf> the Wm Quimby her uncle & the 2 Quinbys her cousins. Their father having changed the m for a n. She remembers Sitting Bull. Sat in his lap & she has a photo of herself with Sitting Bulls twin children. She also has a picture book drawn by Sitting Bull. The first one is at the Smithsomin Institute & hers in the second one. the only 2 she ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p043.jpg) knows of. I know you will be interested in all she has to say. She thinks it very wrong that Sitting Bull was killed [The following connected with a line to the previous sentence. Written at the bottom of the page] & her father thought likewise he was killed by an Indian Police. Dont work to hard Mr Camp & take care of yourself. Best wishes Carle. P.S I enjoyed your stay over very much wish it could of been longer ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p044.jpg) [The following handwritten diagnally in the top left corner] answered 12-18-24 Topeka, Kansas December 11 1924 Mr Wm. M. Camp 7740 Union Av Chicago My dear Mr Camp . Your welcome letter recieved this morning and I was pleased to hear from you. Am sorry indeed you are still detained from your trip out west but I do hope you may be able to resume your work next summer. Like you I am in the land business I have 3 farms, 690 acres but its impossible to dispose of it ant at any reasonable price. All one can do is to hold on until the land movement begins then watch his oppertunity and let go. Speaking of your western trip to the Platt Bridge <(Casper)> Country. Mr W. E. Conley Secy of our Historical Society has a letter which he showed me to day from The Historical Society out there inquiring wheather the bodys of the men Killed under Custer command in the fight near Platt as they were coming from Sweet Water or Red Buttes were burried at Platte Bridge with the bodys of the men Killed at Platt Bridge or on the ground where they Killed ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p045.jpg) My answer to him they were all burried at Platt Bridge but they seem to doubt it. These bodies were or a part of them were removed to Ft Da Russell near Cheyenne and burried in the Nail Cemetery. I visited this Cemetery 4 years ago, their graves were marked with Government Head Stones marked, 11th Kansas Cavalry "Unknown." What is your recolections of these burrials or in other words—in your visit to the Platt Bridge did you go out to where these 25 men were Killed and the wagons burned, and were they first burried there: 60 years is a long to Keep these things fresh on ones memory to be shure. but my recolections are they all burried at Platt Bridge. You will greatly oblige me and help me to give these Wyoming people absolute certainty as to the first resting place of those unfortunate comrades, who were fouly mureded on that fatil July 26 191 1865. Verry Truly Yours W.W.Denison 632 Garfield Dr Denison ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p046.jpg) March 28, 1925 Dear Mr Camp: Herewith I hand you, with pleasure, a list of books pertaining to the American Indian, The West, and Railroad data. Some of the books offered are very mediocre in character, others again are very choice. The later are priced in larger figures, the demand for them being greater than the supply. The getting to-gether of th such items involves unremitting search and in many instances a stiff price is asked for them and living being high. prices for books of this character cannot be lower. I suppose, and know you have in your collection many that I have on my list, but I hope you will find enough new ones to make an ample selection. If you wish, I could express ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p047.jpg) direct to you any that you may check with red ink or pencil, if you should not, for some reason, be able to arrange a meeting with me, or call on me. Kindly preserve list for and return same when convenient. Trusting that I again may have the pleasure of serving you. I remain Sincerely yours V.F. Simon 719 Oakton St Evanston, Ill. P.S. Deduct the usual 25% ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p048.jpg) P.S. I have quite a few more or less recent guide books for American Travel. Will submit list of these if you should desire. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p049.jpg) [The following handwritten diagnally in the top left corner] answered 7/2/25 Mr. W. M. Camp. Chicago, Ill. Dear Mr. Camp:- Your name has been given me by Mr. R.S. Ellison of Casper Wyo. and I am writing for details how to reach the Site of Crooks fight on the Rosebud. I am planning my try to include all the old western battlefields and early facts and am anxious to see the location of the fa[---] fight on the Rosebud. Will be in Sheridan Wyo. going west to the Custer battlefield and as far into Montana as Hardin. I understand the Battlefield is West of Sheridan some where near the town of Bussey but I am not certain how to reach it. I would appreciate it if you could give me the above information as I am leaving soon, Very truly yours 988-23rd Dr R. d. Burnside Burnside ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p050.jpg) [The following handwritten diagnally in the top left corner] answered 7/16/25 [The following hand written diagnally in the top middle of the page] 7/14/25 988-23rd Des Moine, Ia. Dear Mr. Camp: Your very interesting letter received and thanks so much for all the detailed and instructive information. However I am sending a part of my road map to be sure I have the exact road. You see the main highway north from Sheridan is the Custer Battlefield Highway and this goes direct to the Crow Agency. I think the road you [---] is as you said, down the Tongue River which I have marked. I came on the Custer highway last summer as far as Sheridan, but the road on North was in such poor condition that we were advised not to take it. I should like to take such a trip with you, as you are so full of valuable and useful information. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p051.jpg) I am and always have been very much interested in all things Western, and have spent much time in the west on all my vacations. I am especially interested in seeing the sites of early forts and Indian Battlefield and may try this year will include such place as old Ft. Laramie, Reno, Kearny etc.. I have hal several wonderful letters from Mr. Ellisin and if he has returned from his trip by the time I reach Casper I intend to look him up. We go thru Columbus Wh, and Mr. Grinnell has suggested I stop off and meet Capt. North, whom you purhaps know. I should like nothing better than to travel over the exact route ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F37_B2_F15_p052.jpg) Gen. Custer took north and west from Bushy on that eventful day when he lost his life. I intend to spend several days about the battle field and then go on to Hardin to see the National Cemetery. Should you have any other places of interest to suggest I would appreciate it. I am hoping to get away about the 21st or 25th of this month. Deeply thanking you for your interesting letter. I am very truly Yours. Dr. P. A. Burnside. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p001.jpg) [The following handwritten in the top right corner] [n.d.] Washington.. D. C august 14- Mr Wm M Camp 7740 union avenue Chicago ill Dear Sir I received your letter [---] ords wonting to know woh who the scout was that swam the river on that expedition on august 11, 1873 on the yellow stone river yes I was on that trip but I was not a scout but I know there was a scout that swam the river and I have ben trying to fiend out his name from some of the old boys that was there that lives heare in the city but it seames they have forgoton that Is why I have put this written off so long if I should happen to fiend out who the scout name I will let you know 1247 Kof St Yours truly Wm J Boily Washington DC ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p002.jpg) [Top photograph with the caption "A Noted Apache Chief employed on the Salt River Project ". "1906 hand written in the bottom right corner of the photograph.] [The following handwritten below the top picture] Changes in Arizona in 30 years. [The following typed newspaper clippings to the right of the top picture] A quarter of a century ago this partic- ular region was the haunt of Geronimo and his band of murderous Apaches. The big chief has been exiled, but his people still live here. Owing to the scarcity of labor, the supervising engineer turned missionary and held a pow-wow with the Indians. Such was his eloquence that several hundred Indians went on the gov- ernment pay-roll. They proved to be good workers and were in no small de- gree responsible for the prompt construc- tion of the Roosevelt road. Later on they were tried on canal work and on concrete mixing, and were not found wanting. While the head of the family toiled for the government, the squaw in her wickiup wove wonderful baskets, which found ready sale in the camps and in Roosevlet. What justice could be more poetic than that his arrows and hatchets should be turned into picks and shovels and his labor utilized to bring the precious water to the land which he had so often en- riched with the blood of the white man. In 19<10> Roosevelt dam will be com- pleted. Its height will be 286 feet. On top it will be 800 feet long. It will cre- ate the largest artificial lake in the world and will furnish 200,000 acres of land with water. The cost of the entire project will be approximately $6,500,000. [Bottom photograph with the caption "Indians (Apaches), survivors of Geromino's Band, building a Road to the Roosevelt Dam, Arizona."] [The following handwritten at the bottom of the bottom picture] -1906- From 1876 to 1906 = 30 years! Handwriting of Lt Wm Baird 6th Cav WAB [The following handwritten to the right of the bottom picture] Al Sieber the guide and Scout for so many years in government employ, afterwards was employed at the Dam and "worked" the Indians. He was killed in an accident, a boulder which had been blasted falling upon and crushing him. His body is buried near where he fell but his grave can readily be visited by those who go to the Dam- Wm. B. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p003.jpg) [The following handwritten at the top of the page] Ft Bayard, Ft Cummings, Las Cruces and across the Farnado del Muente to San Marcial, New Mex—the Santa Fe Road was finished to that point & I there took the cars again. The two ends of the of these repidly advancing railroads were the "toughest" kind of places at that date—Wm. B. [The following typed in the middle of the page] Special Orders No. 238} HEADQUARTERS OF THE ARMY, Adjutant General's Office, Washington, November 5, 1880. Extract. 7. 2d Lieutenant William Baird, 6th Cavalry, will report in person to the Acting Chief Signal Officer in this city for termorary duty in the Signal Office. By command of GENERAL SHERMAN: R. C. DRUM, Adjutant General. Official: A.H. Mickinly, Assistant Adjutant General. [The following a typed newspaper clipping in the bottom right corner] I was present at a trial where a man with a split second watch timed a very ordinary denizen of the borderm who drew his six shooter and emptied it in a second and a quarter. It takes a tyro that long to pull trigger once when he is all ready. The experts do not pull trigger at all. Long ago it was demon- strated that it was vastly quicker to file off the pawl that cocks a gun and trust to "fanning" the hammer, than it was to shoot even the easiest of double action revolvers in the ordinary way. [The following hand written at the bottom of the page] Lieut. Baird [-]tere' Headqrs. Depart. of Arizona [The following a stamp in the bottom right corner] Department of Arizona, Received NOV 22 1880 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p004.jpg) Memo Dear Mr. Camp: These memoranda are of the country near the now called "Apache-Trail-Motor-Route. It is an easy trip & wonderful I guess. I've never been over it since the Roosevelt Dam was finished But I was out there about 19<10>- In Phoenix on a "visit" and made the "notes" on the reverse side of this sheet. Wm. Baird ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p005.jpg) The "Phila Evening Bulletin has Editoral Roons has several Clippings of the articles Sergt, Hanson wrote. His picture is shown as a "great hero". He tells how he made his escape from Custer to Reno bringing a despoted. He was with his Troop ("D") commanded by Capt Weir who died on Recruiting s[---] at New York Dec. 1876 He was with Benteen's battalion four miles from Custer. I have talked with sevral [-]ork suan [---] Hanisons falsehoods, but they will not believe my "story". It would please me very much if you could read them; they are "nausiating". ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p006.jpg) I told one of the Reporters that I was corresponding with you and showed him all your letters. I told him all about Harrison. He said he would see the Sergeant about the matter. I tried to get the clippings to send to you but was refused. Possibly if you were to write to the "Bulletin" station, your writing a "History of The Seventh Cav". they would lend you the Clippings It is entirely wrong to write falsehoods not has only decieved the Reporter but decieved its readers. This valiant man did not offer his service when Benteen called for voulentirs to bring water for the wounded. Very Respect. H Boner, Address as before, Always glad to hear from you. [The following handwritten next to the signature] H. Boner ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p007.jpg) Terry took the wounded His Dr attended them and They were carried on beds made by stringing canvass between two mules. There was a tall slim man who was not a soldier who was with Custer a He was killed with Custer. Had Custer made a stand on the plain with his men he could have held the cre Indians back. Before they made the charge all the soldiers drank and W.Swan said they were crazy from drink so they were unable to to shoot The indians did most of their fighting with arrows & spears had no ammunition but that taken from Reno's men. The second time the scouts were driven out W. Swan was hit in the head with a tomahawk. He was able to kill the Sioux with his small gun. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p008.jpg) [The following handwritten in the top right corner] [n.d.] Nat Mil Home May 17- W M Camp Dear Sir in reply to your letter of the 2 will say that I do not know the full name of that Bradley and I do not know what Co he belonged to. am sorry I cant give you any further information but my memory is not good on account of sickness. if you hav not already heard from H O Crosby you will hear soon. as he told me he would answer and give you riliable information. over. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p009.jpg) concerning the fights with the Indians Yours respectfully Albert Carter ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p010.jpg) [The following handwritten in the top right corner] [n.d.] Dear Friend Camp: Your letter just received. In regard to General Godfrey he promised to let me know when he leaves the Army and Navy Club for home and as I have not heard as yet I think he is still at the Club. I know he was there two y one week ago yesterday. The cataract was removed from the left eye Tuesday the twelfth, and the eye is doing fine. The doctor says the condition is very satisfactory and I am sure the sight will be restored to that eye but do not know when the operation will occur on the other. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p011.jpg) I learned that there is now in the Soldiers' Home Hospital undergoing examination for the purpose of admittance by the name of Donahue who formally belonged to K. troop. 7th Cavalry and was on Reno Hill in '76. He has been living, I think, in Butte, Montana, and just arrived in Washington some three weeks ago. I hope to see him in a few days. The Doctor is saving the cataract for me to see after the eye gets well. Let me hear from you as often as convenient. I remain Your friend Fremont Kipp Per W W S ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p012.jpg) [no year] April 25th Friend Camp your letter received glad to hear from you. I will leave Walter Reed Hospital tomorrow for the home I will likely be in the Hosptl there for a month until I get the glasses for my eyes. I will be glad to see you on your visit to Washington. you will find Dunehue and Meckling in room 7 Sherman Building just above the Billiard room I have not seen the Trader and Traper as yet but will try and get a copy. I see that Brigadier Gen Frank. D. Baldwin Died in Denver Col. last Sunday evening and will be Buried in arlonton Arlington Cem- I do not know the date of Funeral. I hope Gen g Godfrey will be here at that time hoping to see you soon I remain your Friend Fremont Kipp Box 1907 Washington D.C. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p013.jpg) Washington, D. C., September 17, 1909. To the Honorable, The Congress of the United States of America: Your petitioners, being citizens of the United States and ex-soldiers of the United States Army, and participants in one or more of the Indian wars named as follows, to-wit: The Campaigns against Sioux, the Cheyenne and Arapahoes in Kansas and the Indian Country in 1866-7, resulting in the destruction of Black Kettle and his allied band of Indian Tribes; the Campaign in Utah, Wyoming [The following written in the top margin in connection to "destruction of Black Kettle"] My first fight and also General Custers fist fight with hostile Indians and Nebraska in 1866-7, including the massacre of Fetterman and his command near Fort Phil Kearny; the Campaign against the Sioux Indians in Dakota and Wyoming, 1876-7, including the massacre of General Custer and five troops of the 7th U. S. Cav.; the Modoc Campaign of 1872-3, including the murder of General Canby and the Peace Commissioners; the Nes Perces Campaign of 1877-8, where many casualties occured; the Cheyenne and Arapahoe Campaign of 1874 and outbreak of same Indians in 1878-9, where considerable loss in casualties was sustained; the Campaign against the Apaches in Arizona and New Mexico, 1878 to 1886, and the Sioux Campaign of 1889, including the outbreak at Wounded Knee, Dakota, where many casualties occurred; Bannock and Piute Campaign, 1878; Snake and Sheepeater Indians, 1879; Campaign against the allied Indians, Oregon, in 1878, where considerable losses were sustained. The Campaigns named with minor ones intermediately not named, it will be seen took place more than 43 and not less than 20 years ago, and involved long and tedious marches and severe exposure, requiring great vigilance and activity, as the records of the War Department will show; most of us are broken in health from the exposure involved in the service and weakened from age; many of us have passed 70 years of age, unfitting us to successfully earn a support by manual labor. We therefore peti- tion the Honorable Congress of the United States to allow us the benefits of the Acts of Congress ap- proved June 27, 1890; May 9, 1900, and the Act of February 6, 1907, and your petitioners will ever pray. [The following written at the top of the two columns] "E Troop 7th U.S.C. [Column 1] Amos F. Towne. James Clegg. Daniel W. Crane. Frank Schweigert. Louis B. Leach. A. A. Dresher. Robert J. Cunningham. Jeremiah McCarthy. John H. Edge. Alexander McCrane. August Ganslaen. Jacob H. Jacobs. Richard Barwis. Daniel C. Fletcher. John Foley. Edward Camp. [Last name circled] George Evans. William O. Bolind. James T. Thomas. Charles Stein. Thomas S. Hoover. [Column 2] William Garvean. David O. Morrell. John Guthrie. Louis Lavitts. William O'Grady. John L. Phillips. Thomas W. Elliott. Michael A. Quigley. Paul Dupres. Daniel Sullivan. Samuel Neil. John Shott. Chares Smith. Joseph McDonald. Alexander Snodgrass. Emil C. Hoffman. David Street. James Clark. John Siversen. William Jones. Henry C. Owen. [Photograph in the left margin with the handwritten caption "Yours Truly A.F. Towne Washington Box 837. D.C."] [The following handwritten at the bottom of the page] John Shott but we never heard that he hit what he shot at. But then there are others. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p014.jpg) [Photograph with the handwritten caption "The Sioux Indians adopted me. my Indian name is Wazipaha."] [Photograph with the handwritten caption "Amos F Towne and Samuel Lone Bear a Sioux. Taken in Cincinnati with Buffalo Bill after I returned from the Spanish American War] [Photograph with the handwritten caption "Samuel Lone Bear all by himself."] [Photograph with the handwritten caption "Amos F. Towne 14th New York 1898 Taken on top of Lookout Mountain."] [Photograph with the handwritten caption "Little Tommy Comes Last. a Sioux and a very dear friend of mine."] [Photograph with the handwritten caption "Amos F. Towne and Hollow Horn Bear a Sioux. His picture is on some of our five dollar bills"] at 16 years of age I was with the 19th Massachusetts Regiment and crossed the Rapidan with Grant in 1864. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p015.jpg) [Column 1] Edward Young. Joseph Weber. Thomas Hurney. Israel W. Watterman. Geo. R. Gibney. John Fox. John D. Gates. Henry Washington. E. S. Libby. Louis Rufell. Thomas A. Bailey. Robert Henkle. [Column 2] James Weller. Michael Carter. Peter A. Tarrant. John Bertram. George Anderson <7th U.S. Cavalry> Charles P. Brown. George P. Cross. William Carson. Henry G. Davies. Louis Heibeck. Wm. K. Kenney. [The following handwritten below the second column] Anderson was with Big Frity and Jack Ryan and William and the rest of the bunch on the hill with Maj Reno. He could a tale unfold but he cannot read or write. [The following written on the bottom half of the page] General Custer lost 280 men but we have 300 survivors of that bloody battle. They imagine it of course and it affords them a great deal of satisfaction. I am anxious to see your book. I have seen a great many but the truth has not yet been published. Big Frity will feel dreadful bad if his picture is not given a prominent part and taken while lifting the scalp of an Indian. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p016.jpg) Big Frity asked me to answer your letter. I don't know what he told you about the time they ran away from the Indians and made their getaway with such undue haste. But they were panic stricken and it was each man for himself and the devil take the hindmost. He only remembers of of carving his way through (not Indians) but water when they crossed the ford. He met Sergt White who told Frity he was wounded but Frity could not see how when or where. However he carried the Sergeants cantine and did not stop running until he joined his comrades on the top of the hill. Now Mr Camp I wish you would write Frity and tell him not to be impatient and that the book will be published in due season and he shall have one of the first copies. I shall have to read it to him but I am glad to help him all I can. Yours Truly A. F. Towne ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p017.jpg) Varnum Croud Mr May 14 My dear Mr Camp I read with pleasure yours of the 10th inst of your trip to Washington I am glad you got hold of my old muster roll. That is absolutely correct. I undoubtedly dropped Bob Jackson on account of his time being out which of course I knew all about & probably sent his discharge in to Lincoln with him. I am puzzled about Baker. I am as certain as I can be, depending on memory alone, that he was not on Reno hill and yet it seems to me he was on the march up the Rosebud. If he was, he ran away with the Ree scouts & in some way got to the boat. but I think it more probable that he had been away somewhere when the expedition left the mouth of the Rosebud. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p018.jpg) and caught the boat & came up with Co B 6th Infantry Capt Stephen Baker who was guard on the boat when it came to the mouth of the Little Big Horn and so joined me when Larry came up on the 27th Capt Baker's company was from Fort A Lincoln and Scout Baker would have known him and his men as they would have known him. Both Capt Baker & his Leuit, Jack Carland are dead. Your history of the battle and all that led up to it ought to very perfect for you certainly have run down every clue to information on the subject very carefully and I congratulate you in advance Very truly yours Omar A Varnum ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p019.jpg) Orono. Me. Nov. 22nd Mr Camp Dear Sir I have just finished going through that box of records but that Muster Roll was not to be found. I am sorry for I would like to see it myself but I have been gradually burning up all those old records and went through them very carefully with no result I send you a cut of myself. Very truly yours Char A Varnum. which is printed from the plate for the"History of the Medal of Honor Leagi Legion" by [---]d ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p020.jpg) University of Maine Orono Me. Nov 3rd My dear Mr. Camp Your letter of Oct 5th came to hand today it having been put aside at the University before my arrival here and only turned up with a lot of other mail today. I am now on duty here as Prof. of Military Science having tired of being so far out west. That man William Baker was I think a scout I had forgotten all about but I think he was a white man but I can't recall much about him. However I hope to get my things from Boise in a few days. (they were shipped ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p021.jpg) Oct 6th) and they go into a house where I will live & I will open that box at once & see if I can't get you that Muster Roll I cannot remember annything about this Baker to tell you but I think this Muster Roll will jog my memory I think he was a little man & I used him as an interpreter & that he had lived with Indians but my memory is badly at fault about him. I hope to be able to write you more soon Very Truly Yours Char A Varnum [-] Col USA. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p022.jpg) Orono Me. Feby 27th My dear Mr Camp. Yours of the 24th recieved last night I was very glad indeed to hear from some one who had seen Old Mathey & DeRudio & Luther Hare. I did not know Mathey was back in Denver but thought he was in Texas. Now about your questions No 1. From where I was <(my most advanced position)> I could see the top of a few tepees, enough to show where the village was. That was all. No 2. Half Yellow Face was out with the other Crows, ahead, on the [---] of the 24th & when we started for the Crow Nest he was still out. He was with the Command when I rejoined Custer on the divide. He was not with me ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p023.jpg) on the trip to the Crow Nest No 3. Hare & DeRudio are probably about right in their statements of the length of time & place of Custers halt. I dont think Custer went a second time to the hill. I am in fact quite if not absolutely sure of it. On the hill with me one of the Crows had a small teles- cope glass, a mere toy. & Custer Tried to see with it but you could see better without it. Something was said by either Custer or myself about DeRudio having a fine pair of field glasses & Custer probably borrowed them from DeR- as he says but I am ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p024.jpg) almost certain he did not go back to the hill again. I had had no breakfast & was frightfully thirsty & was hunting food & drink after I got with the command & of course cant swear to what occured while I was so engaged. That is about all I can think of to say on the subject that would be of interest With kind regards Char A Varnum [--] Col USA ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p025.jpg) [The following handwritten in the top left corner] Crazy Horse 1535 [-]intwood Place Wash DC Dear Mr Camp, I do not remember much about the Crazy Horse affair although I was at Robinson on the day he was killed. However I believe that act, in the Crawford paper is about right. I knew C. H. saw him once in his own lodge. He was a fine looking Indian & was cuelly murdered fighting for justice. His old father after his death told me that his son thought as the Whites had all the country East of the Black Hills the Indians ought to have had that West of them in peace. I knew Little Big Man very well. He told me that he [--]de all day with C. H. June 25th 1876. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p026.jpg) I asked him how many soldiers he himself killed but he said he did not kill any. I asked a Sioux names Yellow Hair once if the Indians did not consider Custer a very [-]rare man. He said no because he was killed. They never thought much of the fellow killed but did respect the man who killed. Yours truly HWWessells Jr Gen Henry Wessells Jr ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p027.jpg) Bismarck Jan 29th Mr W M Camp Chicago ills Dear Sir i received your letter this am and give it attention with sla[-]nce as i called on Gen Edgerly Day before yesterday in reply i will say that i will mail your letter this mail to mr Joseph Mills Hanson Yankton South Dakota who has all the particulars in this matter as he is the author of a Book that the writing m[---] Co it publishing i understand it will be on the market soon any other information that i can send you i will do so with ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p028.jpg) pleasure. if you have a friend who is a scenic painter that could put that p[---] on Canvass including the wounded coming to the boat at night also to have it as Curley come to the boat then have Curley explain it als his escape from the Siouxs and him Reaching the boat just in time to save himself i think it would be [---] the most excitable [--]d[--]ts in the world there is two of us living that was witness James m Sipes of Miles City Mont & myself, very Respectfully G P Marsh Grant P. Marsh ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p029.jpg) Bismark Dec 22nd Mr W M Camp 7740 union ave Chicago ill Dear Sir i arrived yesterday from Miles City where i go once a year to visit my friend Mr Sipes and i thought I had better write you i have Reasons in taking an interst in your Book as no doubt from what i can learn it will no Doubt be the last Book of the Kind that will ever Be published and i am very anxious for you to know certain things in relation to the habits of the wild indians of 50 years ago i have a Lady Friend down to Common Ball who has Been with them during the most of her life she is a Highly educated woman i thought you might get someone to see her they are Building a RR there now and there is ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p030.jpg) plenty of civil engineers there i will ask if you have any friends in St Paul or Mineapolis that i could for you as i hardly think that i will go to St Louis this winter as i have had much bad luck lately i have been working 4 years to get me a Ferry Boat at this point when i got it ready last spring i rented it to the Commercial Club of this City and they lost it and my money went with it i will go to yankton St Paul and Mineapolis next month as i want to see parties there if your Book is to be illustrated by all means have some one see me that can sketch the outlines of a picture and i will do my best to assist them in geting pictures of events that happened with the indians the more you say about indians ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p031.jpg) the more attractive your Book will Be i will go From here to Yankton then to St Paul and Mineapolis my address will Be in Care of W. B. &. W. G. Jordon Mineapolis they are whole Sale Grocers [illegible deletion] W B & W G Jordon Verry Respectfully Grant P Marsh ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p032.jpg) [n.d.] My Dear Mr Weston. Excuse d[el]ay in answering your letter. I asked Dad Shaw the question about the Custer battle field. and he answered that he was there the same night after the fight. and also the next summer before the soldiers were buried. he also com plained to the officers at the fort about the soldiers not being buried and laying there il like that for a year. and they buried them that fall. Mr Camp promised Dad one of the books kindly remind him of that, will you please. I hope you are well. We are. My oldest girl is playing piano at the movies now, and is earning her own clothes Sin cerly Mrs S Mrs. A. G. Shaw ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p033.jpg) Littnman Hospital The Pris[--] For Farmer Cobb W. M. Camp. 7740. Union Ave. Chicago Ill. Sir: Your addressed [--] Adjutant Genl. came to hand to day. I am sending you my photograph as requested, and some pictures of the troop that I had charge of at Fort Elliott Tex in 1887. They are faded so I dont think they can be copied. I thought you would like to look at them. You may return them when you return my manuscript. Please keep them until you hear from me, as I am liable to change my address any day. It was a streak of good luck that I was able to send you the manuscript. It had been placed away so carefully some two years ago. That is just ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p034.jpg) it just turned up. I have greatly en- larged my mn [---]. I may some day have them published. I havent a photograph nook Here by nor do I know when one could be procurred. He was [---] near Old Canar Grant in 1876 or 77. I am not feeling very will so will show them to a Close Your truly H.W. Wh[--] ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p035.jpg) [Cash receipt from Ford in Miles City, Montana showing the pieces, articles, and amounts.] 8-24 1920 Cash Pieces Number Article Amount 1 30x 3½ Q.W.T.Goodyear 24 70 1 Gal 6. Bulk 1.20 25.90 ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p036.jpg) [The following handwritten at the top of the page] Varnum's Secretary 230 Sorester Bldg Portland Ora Nov 27th— Mr W M Camp. Dear Sir I recieved your letter but have been doing too much traveling on recruiting service to answer before. I wanted to go on that trip up the Rosebud but could not get away. 1 As I have said before I got to camp the night of the 24th after a ride of about 50 miles at least and was feeling tired. After my interview with Custer I left at 9 oclock p.m. and did not observe the topography of the camp to any extent and my recollection is very dim. 2. The only thing I could see of the Camp at 2 AM June 25th was smoke rising from it evidently was located. The Crows were angry at the smoke being visible I did not see any troops moving for a long time, and only shortly before they arrived on the ridge but I could follow their advances by the dust of the Column. I cant give any idea of when the Column started. Gibson Godfrey Hare or any survivors who was with the command ought ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p037.jpg) to be able to do so. The officers call that I have spoken of was at the crossing of the divide after Custer returned from his visit to the Crow Nest. There was no bugle call for "Officers Call" but they all assembled presumably by messages by orderlies. I had eaten nothing since the night before & was hunting food & water so I did not hear what took place, but understood that Custer told the officers that we had been discovered by the hostiles as told by me & the Crows & concealment was no longer possible. I am afraid this is not much informa- tion, but is the best I can do. Regards [--] hartily Wm A Varnum ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p038.jpg) [Knipe Correspondence, n.d.] Questions. Do you recall how the amount or depth of water in the Little Big Horn River on June 25, 1876, compared with that when we were there last monsth? Do you think there might have been more or less, or about the same, in 1876? There was a good deal more water in the Little Big Horn River in June 1876 than when we were there this year; this being caused by it being earlier in the year and the stream was swollen from the thawing of snow from the mountains; and besides that, water has been taken from this stream now for irrigating purposes, which would naturally reduce it. When standing on Reno hill, at the place where you thought Custer had you back with the message, you told me that you could see the dust of Mc Dougall's command in the distance, and that you went straight to it across the country, without following back on Custer's trail. Inasmuch as you met Benteen first, was it not the dust of Benteen's command that you saw, rather than Mc Dougall's? [Illegible deletion] Or did you see the dust stirred up by both commands. The dust that I saw, as I stated before, was from Capt. McDougall's pack-train, and the reason I know, is that it was to the left of the range of bluffs as we went up, and Beenteen was too far down to the right for the dust to have been made by him. On my trip back to McDougall I saw Beenteen down to the right of me and I turned and went down to him, and he went across the bluff to the top of Reno's Hill in about the same way we went that day we were there. When our wagon was returning from the locality of the burning tepee, that day, Curley pointed out to us the place where Custer parted from Reno. I do not now recall whether I asked you at the time if you agreed with Curley as to this. Do you remember whether the place pointed out by Curley met with your views as to the place in question? As I remember, the parting point which Curl showed us was about a mile west of the burning tepee and two miles east of the river. Curley is about right about this. It was somewhere in the neigh- borhood of where we crossed that day with the wagon. For your convenience you might write your answers on this sheet just below each question. For your concenience ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p039.jpg) No. 1524 No File No. gmw 8-12-11 Department of the Interior, OFFICE OF INDIAN AFFAIRS, Washington, D.C., 8-23, 1911 Received of W. M Camp, $100 in payment for map Crow Res. Montana. W. S. Weekly per BDShmere. Recieving Clerk. ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p040.jpg) [Kanipe Correspondence, n.d.] QUESTIONS. 1.--Trumpeter Martin says that after Gen. Custer separated from Reno, up by the burning tepee, he halted his five troops about five minutes and watered his horses. He says Custer then cautioned his men not to permit the horses to drink too much, as there was much marching ahead. I do not know where this could be unless it was at the ravi we crossed when on the way to Reno hill, where I got out of the wagon and went ahead to see where we could drive across, as you will rem- ember. While I was hunting a place to cross you and the driver went ahead with the team and drove over all right. I guess you will re- member the place I mean. It was about half way between the place where Curley showed us the location of the lone tepee and Reno hill. noticed that there had been water there earlier in the season. Now if Custer watered horses there you were with him, and I wish you could tell me whether you remember watering at that place. If not, where did Custer last water his horses before you left him? 2.--When Custer and his five troops came to the bluffs above the river, you saw Reno and his three troops over across the river, in the bottoms, on their way to charge the village. Did you notice any Ind- ians ahead of Reno, or any dust ahead of him that would indicate the presence of Indians? 3.--I am told that when "Dick" Hanley rode out to catch the pack mule that ran off with the ammunition, on the evening of June25, just as the Indians had Reno and his men corraled, that he was assisted by John Mc Guire, of "C" Troop, who ran out on foot, in one direction, w while Hanley rode in the other direction, and that in this way, they converged and cornered the mule and caught him and led him back while the Indians were shooting at them. You told me about this mule when we were on the ground. Do you remember about Mc Guire taking part in the manner stated? 4.--An officer who was with Terry tells me that two Crow scouts brought them word of Custer's fate on the xxevening of June 26, meeting them somewhere north of the mouth of the Little Big Horn. He says these were two of a party of three Crow scouts that left Reno's command after dark on the June 25. I have always understood that no one could get away from Reno's position until after the Sioux village moved off, on the evening of June 26. Can you tell me whether you heard of the Crows leaving the corrallon the night of June 25, or ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p041.jpg) (2) whether three of the five were absent on June 26? If three left on the night of June 25, there would have been only the wounded White Swan and one other there on June 26. Inasmuch as there were only six Crows ,altogether, with the regi- ment, and as five of these were corraled with Reno on the afternoon of June 25, and Curley not there, I have always wondered how any Crows got to Terry and Gibbon with information on the 26th. If they left Reno on the night of the 25th, this will make the matter clear. Godfrey, in his story, says that scouts were sent out on the night of the 25th, but came back and reported that the Sioux were too thick and that they could not get away. 5.-- On the Custer battlefield did you identify any men of "C" Troop other than Finley, Finkel and Bobo, whom you have already told me about? If so where did you find them? ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p042.jpg) 1ST QUESTION: I remember the place where you and Curly and I crossed the ravine very well. Custer did not stop to water any horses at this ravine. As you will remember, I told you that we saw Indians on the bluff which caused Custer to turn to the right with his five compac nies. I do not remember of seeing any water in that ravine the day that Custer and his five companies crossed it on the 25th day of June 1876. The five companies were moving at a trot to the top of the bluff. The last place and the only place that the horses were watered that morning was some distance above the burning tepee where we crossed Benteen's Creek the last time, which put us on the side with the burning tepee. Q. 2ND: When Custer and his five companies come to the top of the bluff in sight of Reno and his three companies in the bottom I did not see any Indians directly in front of Reno, as he was getting too close to that spur of timber that reaches out across the bottom from the river, where Reno dismounted and formed his skirmish line. I saw plenty of ponies moving off to the left of Reno as though they had riders on them, but it was so far that I could not tell, but in the manner they were moving indicated there were riders on them. I think the most of the Indians were in this timber and below it, wait- ing for Reno. Q. 3RD: McGuire did assist Hanley, as stated in your question. Q. 4TH: I heard of any scouts being sent from Reno's hill on the night of the 25th of June, 1876. I do not believe there was any that left there, for I do not see how they could possibly have gotten away. On the 26th there was such hard fighting that it would have been impossible for anybody to have left there on that date. The Crow Indian scouts they are talking of going to Terry's command on the 26th was Curley, as a great many of the enlisted men told me about Curley coming to them on the 26th, and telling them about the Indians"killing the soldiers like buffaloes". ----- new page (MSS57_S2_F38_B2_F16_p043.jpg) Q. 5TH: I recognized none of the other men for sure. The reason that I recognized Finkle and Finley and Bobo was on account of their lying close to their horses. I recognized the horses first and that caused to look for the riders. Bobo was a bald-headed man, and he was not mutilated. Do you still want my wife's picture and her two Bobo boys' pictures, Charlie and Frank? If you still want the pictures and the story of her experience with the Indians, I will write it for you and send it, together with the pictures. I have answered the five question as best I can from my recollection at this time. I am always ready to answer any question that you may desire answered. Yours very truly, Daniel A. Knipe